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[quote=SunnySide;1241749]We dont need anymore edge rushers and we area dding another w the no. 2 overall Chase Young.

Most important positions past 20 years:

1. QB
2. Guys who protect QB
3. Guys who pressure QB

But now ... it seems like effective edge rushers are falling from the sky and impact players are readily avail in FA. half the damn list of impact FA are edge/rush guys ... all under 30.

Clowney
Chris Jones
Ngakoue
Armstead
fowler Jr
Shaq Barrett
bud Dupree
Judon
Leaonard Williams
Robert Quinn
van Noy

That is a ton of talented rushers.

Is this a position you dont have to draft heavy on now a days? Are we late to the party? All we do is draft end guys and we end up letting guys like Preston and Trent go bc we have too many already.

Are we dumb for using high draft picks on this position? There are like no OT and Gs worth it but a ton of DE. Before you could always add a solid to good G or C in FA, never an edge. Now its like opposite.[/quote]

Chase would replace Kerrigan, then you trade Kerrigan and get more cap space and a dominating pass rusher the equivalent of Quenton Nelson is to OLine. We do need a pash rusher badly.

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This thread is great. For a daft Brit who didn't grow up with the game its one of the more difficult aspects to understand. I've learnt so much just reading all this. Keep it coming...

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[quote=Brummie Brave;1242046]This thread is great. For a daft Brit who didn't grow up with the game its one of the more difficult aspects to understand. I've learnt so much just reading all this. Keep it coming...[/quote]

I feel you man. This is one of the reason I enjoyed this place so much. You'll learn a lot about this beautiful sport. Cap management in sports surely is not something we're used to in Europe, but it's a quite important aspect of mid to long term roster building and managing.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1242048]I feel you man. This is one of the reason I enjoyed this place so much. You'll learn a lot about this beautiful sport. Cap management in sports surely is not something we're used to in Europe, but it's a quite important aspect of mid to long term roster building and managing.[/quote]

Managing the roster and certainly the costs associated with it is something we could really learn from in Europe - particularly our football (soccer) clubs.

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[quote=Brummie Brave;1242051]Managing the roster and certainly the costs associated with it is something we could really learn from in Europe - particularly [B]our[/B] football (soccer) clubs.[/quote]

Hey hey hey easy there don't throw me into that soccer lover club, I hate soccer.

Jokes aside, salary cap and the draft are 2 of the systems I love about this sport, really smart ways to help keep it competitive. The more you'll get deep into it, the more you'll love it !

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[quote=Schneed10;1241670]A note on the Alex Smith situation since it has such a large impact on our salary cap.

Alex Smith is currently under contract for three more years. His $16M salary this year is guaranteed, and we still have yet to recognize $16.2M of his signing bonus on our cap. This means that if we cut him or trade him before June 1 of this year, it will actually hurt our cap and reduce our available cap space by ($10.8M).

If cut him with a post-June 1 designation, or trade him after June 1, then we save no money against the cap this season, our cap will be entirely unchanged. Because with that $16M salary guaranteed, we'd carry another $5.4M of the prorated bonus in 2020, putting his cap number right back at $21.4M in 2020, where it would be if he were still on the roster. But in 2021 he'd come off the cap and we'd save $13.6M.

The same thing would happen in 2021 if we kept him through this season, and then cut him prior to June 1 of 2021. Our cap space in 2021 would go up $13.6M, the same impact as if we let him go after June 1 of this year.

Due to all this, I'm calling it likely that he remains a Redskin through this season and serves as the backup to Dwayne Haskins. He'll likely continue serving as a mentor while he works his way back - and collects a paycheck.

Despite the likelihood that he sticks with us in 2020, we'll still have the available cap space I list in my original post above, and the Redskins will likely plan for 2021 to say goodbye to Alex, and plan their free agency this year to account for the fact that 2021 will have $13.6M more in cap space than it would with Alex on the roster.

In that sense, it would be wise to push some chips into the table in free agency this year. If Haskins continues to progress, the Redskins have two years to take advantage of the rookie contract window (2021 and 2022). In 2023 they'll either need to execute the 5th year option on Haskins or extend him long term.[/quote]

I saw here and there [URL="https://heavy.com/sports/2019/12/chicago-bears-alex-smith-2020/"]rumors[/URL] that the Bears could be interested in trading for Alex Smith.
Not that there any truth to it for now, but theoretically speaking, wouldn't that be a great option for us ?
Even for a 6th rounder I'd take it, saving 20M+ for the next 3 years is a great thing to do. Allowing our new coach to have a chance of bringing TW back as it seems he wants to (I have no opinion on what's best here), maybe extending Scherff instead of tagging him, and making some significant signings in FA really would help turn this team around.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1242231]I saw here and there [URL="https://heavy.com/sports/2019/12/chicago-bears-alex-smith-2020/"]rumors[/URL] that the Bears could be interested in trading for Alex Smith.

Not that there any truth to it for now, but theoretically speaking, wouldn't that be a great option for us ?

Even for a 6th rounder I'd take it, saving 20M+ for the next 3 years is a great thing to do. Allowing our new coach to have a chance of bringing TW back as it seems he wants to (I have no opinion on what's best here), maybe extending Scherff instead of tagging him, and making some significant signings in FA really would help turn this team around.[/QUOTE]I would be amazed if Snyder traded his new BFF

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We need O line and a TE bad. I hope we sink alot of money into those areas. Chase Young, and Del Rio are going to be huge upgrades on D.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242232]I would be amazed if Snyder traded his new BFF

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Good point... And dhat actually would be a good indication of wether or not Dan truly understood that he has to stay out of it.
If Ron Rivera decides to trade AS and is allowed to, that'd be an awesome sign.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1242239]Good point... And dhat actually would be a good indication of wether or not Dan truly understood that he has to stay out of it.
If Ron Rivera decides to trade AS and is allowed to, that'd be an awesome sign.[/quote]

If someone offered anything for Alex, even a 7th rounder, I would take it in a heartbeat just to get his contract off the books.

You are right, it would be a serious test for Dan about whether to interfere with the team because it looks like Alex is resigned to another season of hanging out with Snyder watching the games, when he's not helping Haskins on the practice field.

Ron would have to convince Dan he can always hang out with Alex once Alex retires from his new team after next year. I think best case scenario is Alex hopes to be active someday as a backup qb, there is no team that would risk bringing him in as a starter.

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[quote=mooby;1242305]If someone offered anything for Alex, even a 7th rounder, I would take it in a heartbeat just to get his contract off the books.

You are right, it would be a serious test for Dan about whether to interfere with the team because it looks like Alex is resigned to another season of hanging out with Snyder watching the games, when he's not helping Haskins on the practice field.

Ron would have to convince Dan he can always hang out with Alex once Alex retires from his new team after next year. I think best case scenario is Alex hopes to be active someday as a backup qb, there is no team that would risk bringing him in as a starter.[/quote]

I understand that point, but, we'd probably have to trade Chicago picks to take on the contract and salary cap hit. Also, by all accounts, it was Alex Smith who motivated Haskins to stop being a lazy/entitled and start putting in the effort to be an NFL QB.

Lets not forget, his college teammates have all indicated that football is not his life or focus. He did not live and breathe football at Ohio State. Early on in the season, his redskins team mates were shocked he didn't know the playbook. He hadn't bothered to study it because he was butt-hurt that he wasn't the starter. He was chewing out his experienced veteran offensive linemen on the sidelines when he had not done anything to earn their respect himself by putting in the work. And lets not forget selfie-gate. Yes - It happened a while ago, but he recently retweeted it and referenced his love for the fans, so he does not seem to have matured much since then. Rivera benched Cam newton for not wearing a tie on the team plane - how do you think he'd have handled Dwayne missing the last snap to take a selfie? And finally, Haskins wasn't there for Riveras press conference. If Haskins wanted to demonstrate he was all-in on football and wanted to make a good impression, he would have adjusted his vacation plans to be there.

I'm not saying all this to say that Haskins is going to be a bust. I'm just highlighting that we shouldn't allow a couple of games where he showed improvement to make us think he'll automatically continue to develop, progress, and mature. By all appearances, he's going to have a completely new offensive coaching staff and new offensive system. I think it would really, really, help give Haskins the best chance to succeed and become the franchise QB Snyder drafted him to be if we keep his mentor - the guy who he himself credited with his turnaround - on the roster.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1242320]I understand that point, but, we'd probably have to trade Chicago picks to take on the contract and salary cap hit. Also, by all accounts, it was Alex Smith who motivated Haskins to stop being a lazy/entitled and start putting in the effort to be an NFL QB.

Lets not forget, his college teammates have all indicated that football is not his life or focus. He did not live and breathe football at Ohio State. Early on in the season, his redskins team mates were shocked he didn't know the playbook. He hadn't bothered to study it because he was butt-hurt that he wasn't the starter. He was chewing out his experienced veteran offensive linemen on the sidelines when he had not done anything to earn their respect himself by putting in the work. And lets not forget selfie-gate. Yes - It happened a while ago, but he recently retweeted it and referenced his love for the fans, so he does not seem to have matured much since then. [B]Rivera benched Cam newton for not wearing a tie on the team plane - how do you think he'd have handled Dwayne missing the last snap to take a selfie?[/B] And finally, Haskins wasn't there for Riveras press conference. If Haskins wanted to demonstrate he was all-in on football and wanted to make a good impression, he would have adjusted his vacation plans to be there.

I'm not saying all this to say that Haskins is going to be a bust. I'm just highlighting that we shouldn't allow a couple of games where he showed improvement to make us think he'll automatically continue to develop, progress, and mature. By all appearances, he's going to have a completely new offensive coaching staff and new offensive system. I think it would really, really, help give Haskins the best chance to succeed and become the franchise QB Snyder drafted him to be if we keep his mentor - the guy who he himself credited with his turnaround - on the roster.[/quote]

Yeah exactly, he's not gonna get a free pass with Rivera, so I don't think removing the Alex Smith effect would be that dangerous to his development. Even if we have to throw a late rounder in there, I like doing what's smart for the team, and all the tools for success to our new HC.
And if not having AS around him is an excuse to not put in the work even with a tough ass coach like RR, then it's a big enough issue to cause trouble anyway...

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1242320]I understand that point, but, we'd probably have to trade Chicago picks to take on the contract and salary cap hit. Also, by all accounts, it was Alex Smith who motivated Haskins to stop being a lazy/entitled and start putting in the effort to be an NFL QB.



Lets not forget, his college teammates have all indicated that football is not his life or focus. He did not live and breathe football at Ohio State. Early on in the season, his redskins team mates were shocked he didn't know the playbook. He hadn't bothered to study it because he was butt-hurt that he wasn't the starter. He was chewing out his experienced veteran offensive linemen on the sidelines when he had not done anything to earn their respect himself by putting in the work. And lets not forget selfie-gate. Yes - It happened a while ago, but he recently retweeted it and referenced his love for the fans, so he does not seem to have matured much since then. Rivera benched Cam newton for not wearing a tie on the team plane - how do you think he'd have handled Dwayne missing the last snap to take a selfie? And finally, Haskins wasn't there for Riveras press conference. If Haskins wanted to demonstrate he was all-in on football and wanted to make a good impression, he would have adjusted his vacation plans to be there.



I'm not saying all this to say that Haskins is going to be a bust. I'm just highlighting that we shouldn't allow a couple of games where he showed improvement to make us think he'll automatically continue to develop, progress, and mature. By all appearances, he's going to have a completely new offensive coaching staff and new offensive system. I think it would really, really, help give Haskins the best chance to succeed and become the franchise QB Snyder drafted him to be if we keep his mentor - the guy who he himself credited with his turnaround - on the roster.[/QUOTE]Just to understand your two positions on AS and TW. It is better to keep a backup qb with a 20+million cap hit rather than trade him and clear cap because he is besties with the owner and might add something in the qb room, but its not ok to pay 12mil to a top NFL LT that can come in and guard your qb's blind side at a high level.

Something with that logic seems off to me

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1242320]I understand that point, but, we'd probably have to trade Chicago picks to take on the contract and salary cap hit. Also, by all accounts, it was Alex Smith who motivated Haskins to stop being a lazy/entitled and start putting in the effort to be an NFL QB.

Lets not forget, his college teammates have all indicated that football is not his life or focus. He did not live and breathe football at Ohio State. Early on in the season, his redskins team mates were shocked he didn't know the playbook. He hadn't bothered to study it because he was butt-hurt that he wasn't the starter. He was chewing out his experienced veteran offensive linemen on the sidelines when he had not done anything to earn their respect himself by putting in the work. And lets not forget selfie-gate. Yes - It happened a while ago, but he recently retweeted it and referenced his love for the fans, so he does not seem to have matured much since then. Rivera benched Cam newton for not wearing a tie on the team plane - how do you think he'd have handled Dwayne missing the last snap to take a selfie? And finally, Haskins wasn't there for Riveras press conference. If Haskins wanted to demonstrate he was all-in on football and wanted to make a good impression, he would have adjusted his vacation plans to be there.

I'm not saying all this to say that Haskins is going to be a bust. I'm just highlighting that we shouldn't allow a couple of games where he showed improvement to make us think he'll automatically continue to develop, progress, and mature. By all appearances, he's going to have a completely new offensive coaching staff and new offensive system. I think it would really, really, help give Haskins the best chance to succeed and become the franchise QB Snyder drafted him to be if we keep his mentor - the guy who he himself credited with his turnaround - on the roster.[/quote]This is a great post. I am totally bought into the notion that Rivera is the new sheriff in town for everything. Haskins will have to earn everything going forward. If he doesn't put in the effort, he will be gone. Rivera will demand it, and this franchise needs it. Culture change folks. Rivera's relationship/handling of Haskins may be the most intriguing relationship, other than Snyder, going forward.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242393]Just to understand your two positions on AS and TW. It is better to keep a backup qb with a 20+million cap hit rather than trade him and clear cap because he is besties with the owner and might add something in the qb room, but its not ok to pay 12mil to a top NFL LT that can come in and guard your qb's blind side at a high level.

Something with that logic seems off to me

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For me, Alex Smith is a far better human being and team mate. He will have more to do with the long-term success of our franchise through his mentorship of Haskins. He has no trade value. In fact, we would probably have to trade valuable draft picks to a team just to take him.

Trent is a complete POS. He will want a new deal with more guaranteed money before playing and its financially stupid to give a player with his age, injury & suspension history, and off-field drama more money. Despite this, he actually has substantially more trade value than Smith.

There's an 8M cap difference between the two players. But trading away picks with smith means spending more in FA $ on players. On the flip side, trading Trent and receiving picks means we'd spend less in FA on other players, so that would eat into that 8M difference. Given everything else, I'll take Smith over Trent 100 times out of 100.

That said, in reality, one does not necessarily affect the other.

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1242417]For me, Alex Smith is a far better human being and team mate. He will have more to do with the long-term success of our franchise through his mentorship of Haskins. He has no trade value. In fact, we would probably have to trade valuable draft picks to a team just to take him.



Trent is a complete POS. He will want a new deal with more guaranteed money before playing and its financially stupid to give a player with his age, injury & suspension history, and off-field drama more money. Despite this, he actually has substantially more trade value than Smith.



There's an 8M cap difference between the two players. But trading away picks with smith means spending more in FA $ on players. On the flip side, trading Trent and receiving picks means we'd spend less in FA on other players, so that would eat into that 8M difference. Given everything else, I'll take Smith over Trent 100 times out of 100.



That said, in reality, one does not necessarily affect the other.[/QUOTE]Trent has more trade value because he is an elite player at a critical position and everyone in the league knows BA was an ass. Keeping TW and trading AS would do far more good for our team in 2020 then vice versa, but keeping both would be good as well.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242420]Trent has more trade value because he is an elite player at a critical position and everyone in the league knows BA was an ass. Keeping TW and trading AS would do far more good for our team in 2020 then vice versa, but keeping both would be good as well.

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Funny that you mention Bruce, because you seem to be under the same delusion as he is that we are "close" to something. We're not.

Neither Trent Williams or Alex Smith will be on the team by the time we are ready to compete for anything. The only reason i'm not strongly advocating we trade BOTH of them for whatever we can get is that, I believe Haskins development is THE most important thing for this team right now. We need to find out if he's a franchise QB or not. Smith will help him reach his potential. Trent wont.

And don't give me any BS about how we need an elite LT to protect Trent. We don't. Donald Penn did an excellent job last year at a fraction of the cost. We can resign Penn, another FA, or use the pick we trade TW for to draft someone to protect him at a much, much more reasonable price.

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1242424]Funny that you mention Bruce, because you seem to be under the same delusion as he is that we are "close" to something. We're not.



Neither Trent Williams or Alex Smith will be on the team by the time we are ready to compete for anything. The only reason i'm not strongly advocating we trade BOTH of them for whatever we can get is that, I believe Haskins development is THE most important thing for this team right now. We need to find out if he's a franchise QB or not. Smith will help him reach his potential. Trent wont.



And don't give me any BS about how we need an elite LT to protect Trent. We don't. Donald Penn did an excellent job last year at a fraction of the cost. We can resign Penn, another FA, or use the pick we trade TW for to draft someone to protect him at a much, much more reasonable price.[/QUOTE]We are within a 2 year window, TW could easily be given a 2 year guaranteed contract with no increase in cap.

That said keeping TW is truly dependent on price vs what we could get in trade. If we get offered a first or second, trade him. If he wants guaranteed top 5 money trade him. But if he is willing to reach a reasonable deal that includes guarantees but not salary inflation, keep him.

As for AS, Ron Rivera was in charge of Cam Newton's growth and maturity from day one, I don'r see ANY benefit to keeping a DS best bud in the ear of Haskins, even if he means no harm.

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Modern NFL is a 2-3 year window imo. The old days of having 5 years etc is not realistic imo. So much more roster turnover now with trades, FA. If you have the QB, you can build quickly.

Donald Penn did not do an "excellent job" this past season if we are comparing him to the other starters in the league. Donald Penn did do an excellent job for a 36 year old free agent in that he stayed healthy, upright and played better than the low expectations for him.

Penns PFF grade was 64.1 which isnt bad bad. But I dont think we can count on him staying healthy all year again and his availability was his best ability imo.

Still have to trade Trent imo. His time here should have ended last offseason.

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My only argument for keeping TW is for helping Haskins develop. TW would give Haskins more time in the pocket.

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Rivera said he’s not interested in a long rebuild. You can bet he will have his eye on the playoffs right away. That’s why Trent still has value here.


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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1242417]For me, Alex Smith is a far better human being and team mate. He will have more to do with the long-term success of our franchise through his mentorship of Haskins. He has no trade value. In fact, we would probably have to trade valuable draft picks to a team just to take him.

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I respect how willing you are to stick to your belief that it's all about the money for Trent and the cancer/beef with Bruce and Larry Hess was just a distraction. Let's see how it plays out though.

I believe the staff changes and the new regime has made a reconciliation possible. And I'm not concerned with how you view Trent as a teammate unless you're in the locker room. If the other players would be happy to have Trent back (which I'm 1000% sure they would given his previous status as a team leader) that's good enough for me.

And as valuable as Alex Smith is, Haskins will have Rivera, Scott Turner, and whoever our qb coach is to learn from. He will either sink or swim, depending on how bad he wants it.

I'm pretty sure any team taking Smith knows it would be a salary dump, but I wouldn't expect to give up anything more than a 3rd day draft pick, which I'm fine with. We could always use the cap relief.

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Seems like Hess has a good share of players both current and ex that aren’t big fans of his.


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[quote=MTK;1242448]Rivera said he’s not interested in a long rebuild. You can bet he will have his eye on the playoffs right away. That’s why Trent still has value here.


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[quote=mooby;1242452]I respect how willing you are to stick to your belief that it's all about the money for Trent and the cancer/beef with Bruce and Larry Hess was just a distraction. Let's see how it plays out though. [/quote]

We will see. My position comes from Trents own statements regarding his motives and the multiple lies he's been caught in. If Trent comes back, apologizes for his toxic behavior, approves the independent investigation into his alleged medical malpractice, and plays out his current contract without demanding guaranteed money, then I will gladly admit I was wrong. But even in that scenario, the smarter thing for this team to do would be to trade him for compensation.


[quote]I believe the staff changes and the new regime has made a reconciliation possible. And I'm not concerned with how you view Trent as a teammate unless you're in the locker room. If the other players would be happy to have Trent back (which I'm 1000% sure they would given his previous status as a team leader) that's good enough for me. [/quote]

I agree that reconciliation is possible - if the skins give Trent guaranteed money and an extension, which i think would be incredibly stupid based entirely on his age, injury, and suspension history. We are not a team that is already elite and just needs a stud LT to make the superbowl. We are not a team that will benefit from barely making the playoffs in 2020 and then losing Trent in the offseason. We need players who can help us build [B]SUSTAINED SUCCESS[/B] and Trent is not part of that equation.

[quote]And as valuable as Alex Smith is, Haskins will have Rivera, Scott Turner, and whoever our qb coach is to learn from. He will either sink or swim, depending on how bad he wants it. [/quote]

I agree with this. However, all the evidence so far indicates Haskins is most likely to be a bust. Haskins has done nothing without Smiths help to demonstrate he has he maturity and drive to be a pro. I don't think he has that inner drive to be a leader and franchise QB yet. He can get there, but I genuinely believe Smith is crucial to helping him build that mindset. Its too early to take the training wheels off. (It shouldn't be, but this is one of the many reasons why Haskins was a reach where we took him last year).

[quote]I'm pretty sure any team taking Smith knows it would be a salary dump, but I wouldn't expect to give up anything more than a 3rd day draft pick, which I'm fine with. We could always use the cap relief.[/quote]
I'm fine with a 3rd day pick, too. But if our primary goal is cap relief, trading TW makes even more sense as he could provide 67% of the relief and net us a substantially better pick.

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I believe Trent will come back. That fills a big hole in our OL with a very good OT for a couple years. Guys gave to give up being butt hurt that TW wanted to be traded after our crappy medical department mismanaged his cancer and Bruce Allen did his usual trait of alienating our best lineman by refusing to negotiate for a new contract NOR trade him.

Trent William will help us fix our OL. Forget that he asked to be traded after dealing with one of the most dysfunctional managements in the NFL. We should welcome him back for the good of the team and protecting Haskins.


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[quote=Warthog;1242706] TW wanted to be traded after our crappy medical department mismanaged his cancer
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There is no evidence the team mismanaged his cancer and it is almost certainly a complete fabrication.

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1242895]There is no evidence the team mismanaged his cancer and it is almost certainly a complete fabrication.[/QUOTE]



The team didn’t mismanage his cancer they non managed it. What kind of evidence would there be of TW repeatedly telling team doctors about it and them repeatedly shrugging it off? Bruce Allen certainly isn’t going to admit it. In his world things were always honky dory in Redskins world.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1242970]The team didn’t mismanage his cancer they non managed it. What kind of evidence would there be of TW repeatedly telling team doctors about it and them repeatedly shrugging it off? Bruce Allen certainly isn’t going to admit it. In his world things were always honky dory in Redskins world.[/QUOTE]The NFL makes a huge deal of crucial catch every year. Several players were highlighted through the month of October where players were diagnosed and given remedy. The Skins (led by Allen and Hess I believe) basically did the minimum necessary for TW. I don't believe that Snyder would have ignored TWs cancer if he was aware of it early on. WE can't know for sure who knew what when, but TW and DS do, and IF they agree that Allen and Hess bear the brunt of blame then I hope Rivera brings Trent back.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242973]The NFL makes a huge deal of crucial catch every year. Several players were highlighted through the month of October where players were diagnosed and given remedy. The Skins (led by Allen and Hess I believe) basically did the minimum necessary for TW. I don't believe that Snyder would have ignored TWs cancer if he was aware of it early on. WE can't know for sure who knew what when, but TW and DS do, and IF they agree that Allen and Hess bear the brunt of blame then I hope Rivera brings Trent back.

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We know the teams medical staff encouraged him to get it checked out by a specialist. We know that Trent failed to do so. We know that when he finally did follow their advice and things looked serious, Snyder gave Trent his private jet and sent him to get treated by the best Dr. in the country in Chicago. We know that team medical staff visited with Trent there. Yet despite the fact that all this happened, Trent said the team told him the growth was nothing to worry about, that he incurred $200,000 in travel expenses to go to Chicago, and that no one visited him. So someone is lying. The Redskins and NFLPA wanted an independent investigation to discover the truth, but Trent Williams denied their request. All the signs point to Trent as being the one that was lying. If he was telling the truth, he SHOULD have filed a grievance with the NFLPA AND a medical malpractice suit. But instead, [I] he just wants to make all sort of accusations without allowing anyone else to verify if they are true or not.[/I]

Its takes a person of incredibly low character to behave in such a way. If we want to change the culture on this team, we need to get rid of guys like that.

Even if you're inclined to ignore all the warnings and believe Trent is 100% telling the truth and is the victim here, there's been so much drama, as part of a culture change, its best to give everyone a clean slate. If we trade trent, we get cap relief and valuable draft picks to build this team for the long-term. Trent gets a new contract with his new team and a fresh start. Its a win-win for everyone involved.

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[quote=MTK;1242448]Rivera said he’s not interested in a long rebuild. You can bet he will have his eye on the playoffs right away. That’s why Trent still has value here.


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As in next year?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1243002]As in next year?[/quote]

Sure why not? The division was weak this year and everyone but Philly is going through major changes.

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The whole cancer thing and Bruce Allen being a tool is just forgotten history. We need Trent Williams to fill a critical piece of our OL. Everyone makes mistakes. Forget what happened and offer him the guaranteed money for a couple years. He was an elite and respected warrior on this team when it was a dysfunctional, ridiculous dumpster fire.

Hire him and move on. He’s still a very good OT , and he’s had a year to recover and rebuild his physique. We can fix this OL if the team makes the right moves and bringing back TW is one of them.


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Fair enough we had lame duck coaching all season. I just think a 6-7 win improvement would be incredible. Many of the areas that determine success, turnover ratio, point differential were abyssal this year and while it will gravitate toward the norm.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1243016]Fair enough we had lame duck coaching all season. I just think a 6-7 win improvement would be incredible. Many of the areas that determine success, turnover ratio, point differential were abyssal this year and while it will gravitate toward the norm.[/quote]

That’s been the history for Del Rio when he takes over as DC. Massive improvement in defensive performance in year one.

Then with the cap space we have we’ll likely solve problems along the offensive line, which combined with Guice, Bryce Love, and Peterson still under contract it spells the foundation for a ground and pound.

I pretty much expect 8-8 or better at the moment, understanding that expectation includes a bit of a smart spending spree.

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Given we have Haskins, McLovin, Guice, Bryce and hopefully take Young, all on rookie contracts, do we have enough cap space to splash out in FA picking up OL, TE and secondary? If we could, I can't help thinking that gives us opportunities to draft BPA all down the draft order.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1243023]Given we have Haskins, McLovin, Guice, Bryce and hopefully take Young, all on rookie contracts, do we have enough cap space to splash out in FA picking up OL, TE and secondary? If we could, I can't help thinking that gives us opportunities to draft BPA all down the draft order.[/QUOTE]



We’ll have lots of cap money once they dump/trade all the old and hurt FA. Out of our top player contracts in 2019, six out of the top eight didn’t finish the season due to injury.

Players like Norman, Reed, Davis, McCoy, Keenum,Richardson and even Kerrigan and Moses may be traded/dumped or renegotiated (Kerrigan).

That frees up the acquisition of some new talent. I doubt they will hire any FA over 30 except at QB and maybe Penn as backup OL. I see Hooper as the prime FA target at TE. Resign Trent Williams, Scherff, Flowers, Penn. They’ll bring in FA at WR, CB and S and backup QB.

Draft will be Chase Young, OT (replace Moses), TE, DB, QB (project)

This team will get younger, less injured history, more talent for less money. Gone are Bruce Allen’s ridiculous contracts.


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[quote=AnonEmouse;1243023]Given we have Haskins, McLovin, Guice, Bryce and hopefully take Young, all on rookie contracts, do we have enough cap space to splash out in FA picking up OL, TE and secondary? If we could, I can't help thinking that gives us opportunities to draft BPA all down the draft order.[/quote]

Unfortunately, the free-agent pickings are very slim. Who do you want?

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[quote=Irrefutable;1243032]Unfortunately, the free-agent pickings are very slim. Who do you want?[/quote]

TE Austin Hooper
FS Tre Boston
CB Byron Jones

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[quote=los panda;1243062]TE Austin Hooper
FS Tre Boston
CB Byron Jones[/quote]

HB Chico

and we are set