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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1257137]I imagine she was terrified or was thinking he wouldn’t do it again...or she could work thru it, especially if she witness abuse before in a family or been a victim.

Sounds like Guice is off his rocker[/QUOTE]


The average number of times a woman goes back to her abuser is 7. This is a well understood, clinically observable phenomenon- and if this woman went to the police after the 4th time, she’s ahead of the curve. I’ve represented women who were victims of domestic violence. It’s awful and far, far too common.


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[quote=calia;1257155]The average number of times a woman goes back to her abuser is 7. This is a well understood, clinically observable phenomenon- and if this woman went to the police after the 4th time, she’s ahead of the curve. I’ve represented women who were victims of domestic violence. It’s awful and far, far too common.


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Yup, work in court services unit and did intake for these cases...definitely correct. The one that sticks with me was an older lady who had been married for over 20 years. She had come in from a county over in an effort to be discreet and out of fear. It was the only time I remember my director overhearing the statement, came out and actually did the intake to ensure everything done correctly. She had dealt with it for her entire marriage.

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[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/09/derrius-guice-goes-unclaimed-on-waivers/"]Derrius Guice goes unclaimed on waivers[/URL]

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[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/10/ron-rivera-cutting-derrius-guice-in-best-interest-of-organization/"]Ron Rivera: Cutting Derrius Guice in best interest of organization[/URL]

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Good riddance,I'm glad Ron is sending a message that nonsense won't be tolerated,these idiots still don't understand how lucky they are to make a good living playing a game.

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The hits just keep coming with this franchise huh? I'm sure Rivera knew he was stepping into a real shit hole here but you just have to wonder if he knew how high the shit was piled.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1257171]The hits just keep coming with this franchise huh? I'm sure Rivera knew he was stepping into a real shit hole here but you just have to wonder if he knew how high the shit was piled.[/QUOTE]


No way he knew. I suspect the sexual harassment suit was the worst surprise - seemingly every coach has to deal with a player who commits a crime. But the “damn good team culture” must have been culture shock.


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I do appreciate the way Coach Rivera handled this with decisiveness. I hope he has sent a clear message to every player on the team that they are expendable, starter or not, so stay in line.

Losing Guice the player is a big hit, but at the same time, he's been so unreliable healthwise, it likely won't affect us much.

Peterson just said the shorter offseason has kept him fresh and he plans on playing 4 more years to break Emmitt Smith's record. Hopefully that happens in B&G.

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Check out this line, although it's from the tabloid known as ESPN so who knows if it's trustworthy:

[url]https://www.espn.com/blog/washington/post/_/id/40236/derrius-guice-is-gone-but-washington-still-has-options-at-running-back[/url]

[QUOTE][B]Before he signed here, some close to Peterson told him it was a good spot because of Guice's knees and the character concerns.[/B][/QUOTE]

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Yeah Keim is definitely trustworthy.

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He is one of the few I respect at ESPN.

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And definitely not a huge stretch for AP to think he had a good shot at playing here given Guice and his injury concerns. And now we know the character concerns as well. Looks like AP will remain the main dog and the other guys will fight to pick up the scraps.

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[url]https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2020/08/08/adrian-peterson-has-goals-breaking-emmitt-smiths-rushing-record-and-a-championship/[/url]

[SIZE="5"]Adrian Peterson has goals: Breaking Emmitt Smith’s rushing record, and a championship[/SIZE]
[SIZE="4"]Peterson needs 4,140 rushing yards to pass the Cowboys legend.[/SIZE]

Adrian Peterson is old.

[B]But the 13-year league veteran looks good and says he feels even better. Peterson recently told NFL Network that he would like to play “3-4 more years.”[/B] If that comes to pass, he would retire from the NFL on the doorstep of 40 years old. That’s almost unthinkable.

But it’s entirely possible. And given that Peterson still has goals in mind, he’s not ready to walk away from the game just yet.

“Winning a championship is the one I want most.”

[B]But there’s also the matter of Emmitt Smith’s all-time NFL rushing record. Peterson needs 4,140 more rushing yards to pass the Cowboys legend.

“That’s one of the goals I set to myself when I entered the NFL was to pass the GOAT,” Peterson told NFL Network.[/B]

Both achievements are unlikely. The Washington Football Team would currently be considered a Super Bowl longshot, and there’s no reason to expect that Peterson can string together four straight 1,000-yard rushing seasons at his current age. Peterson turned 35 in March.

But the touches might be there, at least for the 2020 season.

Washington released running back Derrius Guice on Friday night, just hours after he was arrested on domestic violence charges.

That leaves Peterson as the top running back on the roster, though recent Washington draftees will also compete to replace Guice’s production.

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Major sigh regarding AP. Unless you have Derrick Henry then there is no way I want a back like AP at this point in his career. The wear down the defense, Riggo drill 3 yards and a cloud of shit is outdated. The league has totally changed and you need shifty quicker backs that can catch. Would you see the Chiefs giving AP the ball? No way. What about the 49ers? Nope. Give me guys like McCaffery all day long. Versatility over slow as a turtle and can't catch.

AP is too damn slow at this point. Look what Bibbs did when he came here? That guy was playing well and could catch. He was gone cause he and the HC were smashing the secretary ... lol. But you can find guys off the street that are better than AP at this point.
If you have a 35 year old as your top back in today's NFL then that is sad on so many levels.

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Until someone steps up and takes snaps away from him AP will be the lead back. We're looking like a committee approach anyway. He's still an effective 2 down back.

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Guice was never reliable anyway, it's really not a big loss. F him

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Unfortunate all around. 3 incidents all with the same woman. Thats a toxic relationship a la Rueben Foster.

I am surprised, he seemed to have a positive spirit.

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It has nothing to do with Guice. An offense is tougher to defend if your backs are a threat to catch the ball. In today's NFL I would never have a back on my roster that isn't a threat to catch the ball. When AP is in the game the offense becomes predictable. Why would an already bad offense have a slow back that can't catch as it's lead back? Someone please explain that to me. Just makes ZERO sense. I want Love to be given every opportunity to win the job.

The Pats have won so many SB's with backs that catch out of the backfield. Brady is walking into the HOF throwing so many balls to backs.

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Love hasn't done anything in 3 years, for all we know he's another Guice. Hope he can show something but I'm not counting on anything.

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[quote=SunnySide;1257186]Unfortunate all around. 3 incidents all with the same woman. Thats a toxic relationship a la Rueben Foster.

I am surprised, he seemed to have a positive spirit.[/quote]

We do not know the entire story right now. There are a lot of crazy mentally unstable women out there. Just cause she said he did something doesn't mean he actually did it.

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[quote=MTK;1257188]Love hasn't done anything in 3 years, for all we know he's another Guice. Hope he can show something but I'm not counting on anything.[/quote]

True, but Barber and McKissic can catch so I'd prefer to give those guys chances.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1257183]Major sigh regarding AP. Unless you have Derrick Henry then there is no way I want a back like AP at this point in his career. The wear down the defense, Riggo drill 3 yards and a cloud of shit is outdated. The league has totally changed and you need shifty quicker backs that can catch. Would you see the Chiefs giving AP the ball? No way. What about the 49ers? Nope. Give me guys like McCaffery all day long. Versatility over slow as a turtle and can't catch.

AP is too damn slow at this point. Look what Bibbs did when he came here? That guy was playing well and could catch. He was gone cause he and the HC were smashing the secretary ... lol. But you can find guys off the street that are better than AP at this point.
If you have a 35 year old as your top back in today's NFL then that is sad on so many levels.[/quote]

AP was more about power running than speed. Yes, he was fast out of college but running you over was always his MO.


Watch this...he does not look slow to me, especially on edge runs, and he still have the moves to make people miss.

He's nowhere near finished.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7PIzKDddc[/url]

[YT][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7PIzKDddc[/url][/YT]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1257190]True, but Barber and McKissic can catch so I'd prefer to give those guys chances.[/quote]

Barber could be a guy to watch, I've always liked his game

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[quote=MTK;1257201]Barber could be a guy to watch, I've always liked his game[/quote]

Barber's the clear RB2 until Gibson proves he can do anything.

McKissic's basically the new Chris Thompson.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/10/derrius-guice-allegations-girlfriend/?hpid=hp_sports-right-4-0_section-latest-feed%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&utm_source=reddit.com#comments-wrapper[/url]

Charging documents say Guice strangled his girlfriend until she was unconscious.

Yikes.

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[quote=mooby;1257205][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/10/derrius-guice-allegations-girlfriend/?hpid=hp_sports-right-4-0_section-latest-feed%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&utm_source=reddit.com#comments-wrapper[/url]

Charging documents say Guice strangled his girlfriend until she was unconscious.

Yikes.[/quote]



He seems nice.

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What a piece of shit

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Guice should be in prison

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Remember, there are two sides to every story and innocent until proven guilty.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1257221]Remember, there are two sides to every story and innocent until proven guilty.[/quote]

Fair but he turned himself in and didn't deny any of it

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The evidence is pretty damning. Let him have his day in court but it's hard to see this going well for him.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1257221]Remember, there are two sides to every story and innocent until proven guilty.[/quote]

Bruce Allen, is that you?

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It takes a complete psycho path to strangle anyone to the point of unconsciousness. And my understanding is he is pretty straight edge...doesn’t drink or smoke, so that’s not an excuse.

I wonder if anyone knew he was off his rocker and the type of person to commit this type of act?

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[quote=Chico23231;1257228]It takes a complete psycho path to strangle anyone to the point of unconsciousness. And my understanding is he is pretty straight edge...doesn’t drink or smoke, so that’s not an excuse.

I wonder if anyone knew he was off his rocker and the type of person to commit this type of act?[/quote]

Roid rage I bet u

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The WFT 2nd round picks for the next 5 years should be done through fan polls before the pick. Give us a chance.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1257230]Roid rage I bet u[/quote]

or just mental health issues, he didn't have a great childhood, maybe he's bipolar or something

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[quote=MTK;1257239]or just mental health issues, he didn't have a great childhood, maybe he's bipolar or something[/quote]

[url]https://thelab.bleacherreport.com/run-angry/[/url]

Went back over some articles about him from his college days, he really overcame some serious obstacles to make it to the NFL. Shame he's basically another wasted talent now. Hope this is the wakeup call he needs to turn his life around, assuming he gets convicted I think felony strangulation is not something you could plead down to probation. And all of this goes without saying but I hope the girl is alright too. Was reading about it on Reddit (yeah I know) and being strangled to the point of unconsciousness can have serious medical implications that aren't immediately known (like swelling of the air passage in the throat) to the point they have to run several tests on people to clear them back to good health.

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[quote=Defensewins;1257224]Bruce Allen, is that you?[/quote]

Just want to hear his side. If you have seen my posts regarding child, women and animal abusers then you know how I feel on these subjects.

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No excuses. While you’re trying to explain it, think about if there is any reason in which it would be ok if someone pinned your daughter, your mom, your sister down and kept them from breathing until they passed out and later woke up wondering if they were dead.

There is no excuse that makes this ok. So stop trying to explain the circumstances.

He needs to be in prison for a long time.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1257234]The WFT 2nd round picks for the next 5 years should be done through fan polls before the pick. Give us a chance.[/QUOTE]


Guice fell to the second round because of concerns about his durability ([emoji736]) and maturity ([emoji736]). There’s a clue about our second round “curse.”