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[quote=Warthog;1257825]Thanks for updating me on the sign issue at FEDEX. Are they just checking for cursing when they check it? Or any anti-Snyder blather?

Hell, I carried signs with my daughter to the Lincoln (called “the Linc”) Stadium for a Redskins-Eagles game, and thought I might be murdered by drunk fans there. But the funny thing was, the Redskins won and my picture (with the signs) made it into the WaPo. . I also had a Captain Chaos sign and got to meet Chris Coolie’s wife (she was a very nice person but did have a body guard - smart) who was sitting nearby. Kind of a cool day, overall!

So it really irked me when I heard there was no signage in FEDEX. Glad to hear I was wrong about that. Snyder moves up one millimeter from his current status as a bottom-sucking, tin-plated dictator. “Don’t the look at my eyes”. YGBSM!!

Unless the VAST MAJORITY of the allegations in WaPo articles are proved to be rubbish, I just don’t see him ever getting a new stadium. No politician, in either party, will touch him or help him with a 20’ pole. If the legal investigation finds out that much of the charges are true, I just don’t see how the NFL can let it slide. I still think his forced departure will be quietly done, with him making a $ billion or two to assuage his tears at losing his team. But more stories will keep coming out until the NFL does something, at the end of the season.


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Do you remember the incident with the Old Lady season ticket holder who lived across the street from FED Ex.Snyder had suttle bring patrons into the stadium from different areas and he got a cut. The Lady lived across the street and would walk up the hill to Fed Ex , Snyder security said she had to take a shuttle and wasn't allowed to walk in , she won her court case.


This was part of it.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2003/12/18/judge-backs-fans-in-a-walk/d34f0857-d713-4772-b792-84d56669b020/[/url]

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Signs -- didnt Snyder try to say they were banning them, not because fans signs were making fun of him, but because the edges posed a danger? lol

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The NFL has taken over the investigation launched by the Washington Football Team into the Washington Football Team. Owner Daniel Snyder, in a statement issued to Adam Schefter of ESPN, contends that Snyder suggested the move.

“Recently, the Washington Football Team launched an independent [editor’s note: it wasn’t] third-part investigation about our culture and incidents of harassment,” the statement explains. [B]“In conversations with Commissioner Goodell, Tanya and I suggested that the NFL assume full oversight of the investigation[/B] so that the results are thorough, complete and trusted by the fans, the players, our employees and the public. I appreciate Commissioner Goodell agreeing to our suggestion and the entire Washington Football Team remains committed to fully cooperating with all aspects of the investigation.”

While the goal may be to ensure that the results are “trusted by the fans, and the players, our employees and the public,” it will be hard to trust work performed by the lawyer hired by Snyder. Before the investigation can even remotely be regarded as independent, Beth Wilkinson must be replaced with someone hired by the league.

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/31/daniel-snyder-claims-he-suggested-that-nfl-assume-investigation-into-washington-allegations/[/url]

Heard on radio Goddell is fine with Beth Wilkinson remaining on and she will report to him now and not Snyder.

I wonder who picks up the check now? I imagine the other 31 owners arent happy about league money being spent on an off-field issue.

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There was a ban a while ago

[url]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/10/signs_banned_at_fedex_field.html[/url]

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The importance of the NFL taking over the Snyder investigation can’t be overstated. A CRITICAL factor is that the “non-disclosure clause” has now been LIFTED from all current and past employees. Snyder used his money and attack lawyers to stifle employees from coming forth with the truth by threatening to sue them. It has taken very brave past and present WFT workers to face down Snyder’s scare tactics using his lawyers and his ability to outspend anyone in the legal system.

Opening the floodgates almost certainly means that more allegations and charges will come against the team. Snyder had to drop the threat to sue (because of his non-disclosure employee clauses), in order to look like he “welcomes this further investigation”. Truthfully, he has been backed further into a corner by the latest and serious charges in the most recent WaPo article . Some of the long-standing Sports writers for the Post have written scathing editorials blasting Snyder and his alleged misdeeds.

Snyder has a tough time defending himself. On the one hand, he has continually micro-managed all aspects of the teams operations from the start, including using acting GM’s and VP’s like Bruce Allen and Vinny Cerrato, as a proxy to do his bidding into player hires, draft picks, etc. Dan copied his hero, Jerry Jones, for the extra-intrusive nature of his personal management. However, I doubt even Jerry makes his employee’s “avert there eyes near him”, address him as “Sir or Mr Snyder”, “don’t eat in his presence”, or “turn around and walk the other way” if they approach HIS EMINENCE. Snyder also likes the paperclips on his desk to be daily placed going only in one direction on his desk. With this type of megalomania it is really tough to imagine that Dan had absolutely NO KNOWLEDGE of the omnipresent sexual harassment, smut movies using unpaid team cheerleaders, misogynistic atmosphere and his highest level managers asking cheerleaders (in his name) to have sex with team friends while on exotic swimsuit photoshoot’s - again with no pay!

Yet, Snyder now claims he knew nothing about ANY OF IT because he was too “hands off” as the owner. Personally, I think Snyder felt so protected by his money, his attack lawyers and his employee’s non-disclosure forms that he thought he could do anything, and get away with it indefinitely. Perhaps he might snake his way out of all these charges, as he has before. BUT, I think it could be JUST AS LIKELY that the owners group will QUIETLY FORCE HIM TO SELL. The bad press is making all the owners to look bad. This is especially difficult for the NFL as they try to get women to watch more football. There are now personal charges against Dan regarding him asking a cheerleader to sleep with a friend. No way to prove this private conversation, but she did tell friends when it occurred. I think the owners will act against Dan after the season is over. Not a moment too soon!!! We may have a mediocre season but it will all be worth it if Dan is removed and we get a new name!


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Warthog.. Can you say what you have to say in a paragraph? And not a novel?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1257985]Warthog.. Can you say what you have to say in a paragraph? And not a novel?[/quote]

:laughing-

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[quote=skinsfan69;1257985]Warthog.. Can you say what you have to say in a paragraph? And not a novel?[/quote]

More like a Wordhog...amirite?

I kid I kid. We all have our own idiosyncrasies (definitely had to google how to spell this) here. His is sheer word volume.

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I've said it before and I will say it again: Snyder fascinates me. I grew up watching George Steinbrenner push his team towards dysfunction, but at least he had results at the beginning and the end.

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Anyone notice whenever that weasel puts out one of his statements he now mentions his wife? It's 'Tanya and I ' ... he's such a phony SOB - like mentioning his wife makes him look better. I hope somehow he is forced to sell, or he is suspended for a real long time. He needs to be embarrassed and humbled.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1258021]Anyone notice whenever that weasel puts out one of his statements he now mentions his wife? It's 'Tanya and I ' ... he's such a phony SOB - like mentioning his wife makes him look better. I hope somehow he is forced to sell, or he is suspended for a real long time. He needs to be embarrassed and humbled.[/quote]

I'm not sure there's absolutely no truth to this. Jason Wright since the day he was hired kept mentioning Tanya maybe even more than he did Dan. Talking about his hiring itself he mentioned discussing with Tanya but not with Dan.

Maybe it's partly hypocritical but I do think Tanya is more involved than she was before.

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Yeah it's not just Dan that's been mentioning Tanya. I definitely think there's something there as far as her being more involved with things.

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[quote=MTK;1257753]Sooner or later the league is going to have to launch their own investigation. Just too much smoke coming from this shit hole of a dumpster fire. These are the kind of allegations that can lead to Snyder being removed as owner, no doubt.[/quote]

Unfortunately we aren't so lucky.

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[quote=MTK;1258024]Yeah it's not just Dan that's been mentioning Tanya. I definitely think there's something there as far as her being more involved with things.[/quote]

I think Tanya is more involved now than she ever was. If there is a corporate take over it will be her removing Dan.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1258076]Unfortunately we aren't so lucky.[/quote]

Thing about luck is eventually it changes

Eventually

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1257985]Warthog.. Can you say what you have to say in a paragraph? And not a novel?[/QUOTE]


Lol. I do get wordy. Funny because my first book was much more concise. (CRISIS IN BAGHDAD - available on Amazon).

Snyder has been a disaster for this franchise from day 1:

1. Micromanage the football operations and intrusion into the selection of team players using his GM/VP proxies, first Vinnie Cerrato and then Bruce Allen. These two guys did Snyder’s bidding and were the shield for Snyder of an increasingly frustrated fan base and local sports writers - who blamed Cerrato and Allen!!cIt is impossible to know how much Cerrato or Allen actually knew about football or whether 100% of their decisions were self-generated or if it was all Snyder weaving his web. Bruce Allen was hated by players reps and placed LAST in a USA Today poll a couple years ago. I think Allen realized what a disaster Snyder was with his secret decision-making for the team. He was just trying to make his job last as long as possible. That’s why he adopted the mantra that, “All is well”, “Team is about to turn the corner”, “next year we’ll be in the playoffs”.
Of course his favorite saying was that the team needed to win - ON AND OFF THE FIELD. Like anyone gives a shitte about the non-football stuff. You are what your record says you are!

Ever wonder why football geniuses like Gibbs and Shanahan had crappy records with their turn with Snyder’s Redskins - and roughly the same record as HC disasters like Jim Zorn? Because Snyder through his GM shield was making many of the personnel decisions. Just like Snyder’s hero: Jerry Jones. But Snyder knows NOTHING about NFL football . Which is why the team has mostly sucked for 20 years.

In the administrative and non-football side of the operations, again Snyder was like a tin-plated, narcissistic despot. All employees had a non-disclosure form they had to sign to become an employee. This kept the secrets on many of the unsavory things happening in Asburn. “Employee’s has certain bizarre rules: “Don’t look Snyder in the eyes (i.e., look at the ground)”. “If you see Snyder in the hallway, turn around and go the other way”. “Boss doesn’t want to see you eating”. Snyder owns a big yacht and I guess he wanted all his employees to be like those on his yacht: subservient, lowly workers. Women were reportedly hired for their looks and then googled at by all the men, especially the higher ups. In one alleged incident, Snyder saw an average looking woman (an unpaid intern) in the hallway and immediately ordered her fired. In fact, many of allegations are for the misuse and abuse of UNPAID cheerleaders. Young and beautiful women who are not getting paid and trying to get ahead in this world were reportedly targeted for sex while on junkets. Any who reported the team activities to HR were simply told to shut up or quit. They all quit and kept quiet because Snyder sues people at the drop of a hat - which is the true purpose of the non-disclosure form. To keep everything secret! While filming a “Making of a Redskin’s Bikini calendar (2008)”, there was a SECOND film being made on the sidelines with the cheerleaders in various states of undress. They were not paid, nor did they know about the second sleazy film.

I know this is long, but Snyder, the ultimate petty dictator, always has people out front in football operations (Cerrato/Allen) and on the non-football side to take any heat from the media or fans. As usual, he denies any knowledge of the illegal and sleazy activities through the years. Yet, he ran the team and his staff like a micro-managing Godfather.

He’s fired all the front men from Bruce Allen, to Larry Micheal’s (voice of the Redskins) who were all well-paid. If just ONE of those front men talks to the NFL investigation, Snyder is done. I personally think that Snyder will be told to quietly sell the team after the season is over. He is now a pariah in Washington, Maryland it Virginia. No politician will lift a finger to help him for a new stadium- even if he pays for it himself!!. His co-owners, the fans and certainly the media dislike or even hate him. Only the previously grossly overpaid FA, like Dion Sanders, or owners who regularly beat Snyder’s perpetually crummy teams (like Jerry Jones) are behind Snyder now. But with more and more verified allegations from this teams “ off the field”
activities coming out, it is hard to imagine Snyder surviving this. Because Snyder has burned his bridges for any future stadium, he becomes an albatross to the NFL. They’ll fire the butt boy of the NFL and the team will be run by a new billionaire. A new owner COULD NOT be a BIGGER DISASTER, on and off the field, than Danny Snyder has been for this misused team and it’s employee’s.


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So I'm watching this Sports Center special on the frat boy culture that went on at Redskins Park. This is pretty convincing stuff and is making Snyder look really bad. How can he survive this? Compiling videos of women's private parts?? Wtf??

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1258169]So I'm watching this Sports Center special on the frat boy culture that went on at Redskins Park. This is pretty convincing stuff and is making Snyder look really bad. How can he survive this? Compiling videos of women's private parts?? Wtf??[/QUOTE]


It’s disgusting especially because the women in the videos weren’t even paid, NOR did they know they were being filmed while they undressed, etc. This is pervy “filming through the bathroom window” sort of stuff. On one hand Daniel Snyder is a micro-managing despot, but then when anything goes wrong he says,”I was too hands off.” I think the other owners will just make him go away. But his billions has allowed him to escape unscathed through other crises. The WFT can only do better with another owner!


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[quote=Warthog;1258170]It’s disgusting especially because the women in the videos weren’t even paid, NOR did they know they were being filmed while they undressed, etc. This is pervy “filming through the bathroom window” sort of stuff. [B]On one hand Daniel Snyder is a micro-managing despot, but then when anything goes wrong he says,”I was too hands off.”[/B] I think the other owners will just make him go away. But his billions has allowed him to escape unscathed through other crises. The WFT can only do better with another owner!


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I doubt that many people believed that lie.

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According to this [emoji438] article, Dan Snyder might be forced to sell the team...

[URL]https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/09/08/dan-snyder-nfl-mark-leibovich-lose-ownership-question/[/URL]

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[QUOTE=kct1975;1258268]According to this [emoji438] article, Dan Snyder might be forced to sell the team...

[URL]https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/09/08/dan-snyder-nfl-mark-leibovich-lose-ownership-question/[/URL]

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Excellent article. Another factor for Goodell is that Snyder has ZERO chance of getting a stadium deal with any DC, Maryland or Virginia politicians. No political figure, in EITHER PARTY, will help Snyder now or in the foreseeable future (next 0-10 years) to get a stadium - even if Dan Snyder pays for it himself! Snyder offered a stadium deal last year to any state (including DC), with Snyder paying for the whole thing, IF they would give Snyder gambling rights in the stadium. But the allegations by over 40 employees against Snyder have made him a political pariah.

The politicians know that the fans hated him BEFORE these Wash Post articles. Snyder has squeezed the fans for 20 years for every penny- extremely high tickets prices, some of the highest stadium food/beverage prices in the NFL. Snyder also was happy to sell tickets to opposing team fans, which has made the “home game” advantage a joke. Last year, every home game had many more opposing team fans than our fans. The legendary home fan waiting list has long disappeared and Snyder has had to close whole sections of FEDEX to keep the stadium from looking more deserted than it is.

Although the expert cited in that article gives Snyder only a 50/50 chance of surviving this latest crisis, I think it is far lower. Sure, Snyder is promising to change. Why didn’t he do it anytime in the past as the team floundered year after year? Snyder has only changed when under heavy pressure from a scandal, or faced with FINANCIAL PRESSURE. Is that the kind of owner the fans want? As the article says, a new owner will be viewed as a SAVIOR after Snyder’s reign of terror. I can only think that the current NFL investigation will find MORE allegations and more misbehavior by Snyder or by those using his name. I firmly believe that Snyder will be forced to sell the team after another mediocre season. The fans, media and owners will rejoice.


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Felt this was related:

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/report-dan-snyder-withheld-payments-minority-investors-prompting-legal[/url]

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Yeah Dan is a hot mess. I really don't get people blaming Fred Smith for the name change or coping out to a mob. This was one business owner sticking it to another due to Snyder just being overall shitty.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/10/16/washington-cheerleaders-video-lawsuit/[/url]

Even more allegations.

The best thing that could ever happen to this franchise is Dan Synder leaving. Until then it will always be a dumpster fire.

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[quote=mredskins;1262606][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/10/16/washington-cheerleaders-video-lawsuit/[/url]

Even more allegations.

The best thing that could ever happen to this franchise is Dan Synder leaving. Until then it will always be a dumpster fire.[/quote]

WHEN does the NFL get him out of here? Are they just waiting for something major to drop? The stories almost get worse and worse each time a new one comes out!

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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1262618]WHEN does the NFL get him out of here? Are they just waiting for something major to drop? The stories almost get worse and worse each time a new one comes out![/QUOTE]


After the season and quietly. I’m more and more convinced this will happen. But the NFL will try to keep Snyder’s crimes under wraps. Don’t let the door hit your azz on the way out! History will remember the Snyder era as a black hole in the team’s history.


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This day just keeps getting better. We win in Pittsburgh and at the same time an F.U. to Danny. Hopefully more comes out of this.


[url]https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/529163-washington-football-team-investigation-uncovers-decade-old[/url]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1267394]This day just keeps getting better. We win in Pittsburgh and at the same time an F.U. to Danny. Hopefully more comes out of this.


[url]https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/529163-washington-football-team-investigation-uncovers-decade-old[/url][/quote]

Didn't the WFT hire Wilkinson to look into the allegations? Now the team's former counsel is suing her to keep her from exposing this settlement? WTF.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1267394]This day just keeps getting better. We win in Pittsburgh and at the same time an F.U. to Danny. Hopefully more comes out of this.


[url]https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/529163-washington-football-team-investigation-uncovers-decade-old[/url][/quote]

Starting to look like this investigation may truly come up with something that may force Snyder out...let's hope!

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Please resolve this after the 2021 draft. Don't want to lose picks this year.

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[quote=mooby;1267402]Didn't the WFT hire Wilkinson to look into the allegations? Now the team's former counsel is suing her to keep her from exposing this settlement? WTF.[/quote]

WFT officially made the hire, but it was an NFL pushed hire. And they officially handed the process over to the NFL after a couple of weeks IIRC.

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Im guessing a sexual harassment settlement 10 years ago = Dan Snyder had to know there was at least one sexual harassment incident.

Puts a small dent in the "i didnt know anything" armor he chose to defend himself with. Last week I re-read his "statement" he issued when this first began and it was cringe as it begins with him saying "... perhaps I was too hands off with managing this organization". Like he was some innocent old senile man with swindlers doing evil behind his back and not some young petulent owner with his finger in every cooking pot.

yeah Danny, thats the fucking problem. The solution is clearly we need more Danny, not less.