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He might play with a chip on his shoulder too. Look out. He's fearless, as opposed to reckless with the football like Haskins.

It's going to be a fun year.

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Though the switch was bound to happen at some point, not many expected it to take place with the team coming off back-to-back blowout wins and riding an unexpected 3-3 record into the bye week. Perhaps no one was more caught off guard by the news than Fitzpatrick himself.

"I was shocked by it. It definitely caught me off guard,” Fitzpatrick said Wednesday. “It was a hard thing for me to hear yesterday, just kind of digesting the news. My heart just hurt all day. It was heartbreaking for me."

"This profession is interesting in that the guy that fired me -- I basically got fired yesterday and then my day of work today consisted of me in Zoom meetings listening to the guy that fired me, and then [was] locked in a spaced-out room with my replacement for four hours today. So there aren't a whole lot of jobs that are like that," Fitzpatrick said.

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[quote=mooby;1279354]Fitzpatrick is a grown ass man, you think these 21 year old college qb's who have never had a working job in their life and are introduced to wealth and fame in the span of 6 months don't need mentoring? LMAO.[/quote]

C'mon.. This whole mentoring stuff is a bunch of bullshit. Fitz wants to play. Not change diapers. I remember Brett Favre saying it wasn't his job to mentor anyone and that always stuck w/ me. Rodgers turned out ok. Is Rodgers sitting around mentoring Jordan Love? No. Yes you can learn from a vet by watching but that is as far as it should go. Heinike and Allen don't need anyone to hold their hands. If a QB needs his hand held and needs to be coddled by a vet then you got the wrong guy.

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He can still be a teacher to the young guys, football is like any other job.. You can learn from guys without even asking them Q's

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One thing's for sure this is going to be a fun ass season. Fitz is going to push the ball down the field and let his guys make plays. No dink and dunk BS. Now let's get another WR and TE and we're ready to cook.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1279364]He can still be a teacher to the young guys, football is like any other job.. You can learn from guys without even asking them Q's[/quote]

Honestly, look at Heinicke's playing style. It really does look a lot like Fitzpatrick's. This could be part of the plan or at least a big benefit to the new guy.


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[quote=MTK;1279367]One thing's for sure this is going to be a fun ass season. Fitz is going to push the ball down the field and let his guys make plays. No dink and dunk BS. Now let's get another WR and TE and we're ready to cook.[/quote]


Sign Curtis Samuel, then draft Jaylen Waddle. BOMBS AWAY!

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[quote=MTK;1279367]One thing's for sure this is going to be a fun ass season. Fitz is going to push the ball down the field and let his guys make plays. No dink and dunk BS. Now let's get another WR and TE and we're ready to cook.[/quote]

Agree. IMO bringing in Fitz could open the door for top free agent WRs and TEs to want to come here because the ball will be pushed downfield and they can rack up some big numbers. No top WRs or TEs wanted to come here with the offense WFT ran last year.

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I like it for the same reasons many have stated. IF we pick up a starter quality rookie he's a 1 year rental that can bridge the gap and if we don't then we're in a good place to go after a rookie next year. He instantly gives us more hop of signing quality FA talent too. I now agree with going after Samuel and Everett then drafting for OL. Takes the pressure off the D if we can do that.

I keep looking at him and thinking the beard makes him look 50+ but he's only 38 :)

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Fitz's legs are also underrated.. He can still move

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[quote=vallin21;1279325]Love the move! Gives us some flexibility in the draft and FA. Saves us from drafting a QB at 19. Hopefully we’ll add a WR (Samuel), or TE (Henry)[/quote]

Love the move too.

Makes way more sense than forcing a long term solution when there aren't a lot of options, and gives us a chance to:

a) be competitive this year

b) sign some solid WRs

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I don't hate it, but it's "meh" for me. They had to add somebody at the position, but I can't get too excited about him. No exciting options out there though, so it is what it is... At least they didn't give up anything to address the position.

Better shore up that defense now though, because they will be tasked with defending short fields all year. This guy throws interceptions at a pretty high clip.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1279382]I don't hate it, but it's "meh" for me. They had to add somebody at the position, but I can't get too excited about him. No exciting options out there though, so it is what it is... At least they didn't give up anything to address the position.

Better shore up that defense now though, because they will be tasked with defending short fields all year. This guy throws interceptions at a pretty high clip.[/quote]

Career INT % of 3.3, not ideal but not awful either

Same % as Favre funny enough

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[quote=MTK;1279383]Career INT % of 3.3, not ideal but not awful either

Same % as Favre funny enough[/quote]

Yeah, but he's no Favre.

About the same % as Jameis Winston too..

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How he fits

Fitzpatrick showed last season that he’s still a gunslinger and is willing to do whatever it takes to win the game (like in Week 16 against the Raiders). He’s hard-working, amenable to what the coaching staff asks and a pro. One can quickly look at the situation in Miami last season when, even though he was hurt by being pulled as the starter, he remained committed to helping rookie Tua Tagovailoa take the reins. When Miami turned back to Fitzpatrick after Tagovailoa was injured, he stepped up. Washington needs someone with that selflessness and ability to coach up its younger quarterbacks. If Washington adds a few more playmakers around Fitzpatrick, fans could see the ball flying all over the field next season.

The Athletic

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Outside of watching highlights of Fitz throwing bombs under pressure and the games against the Skins .. I honestly dont know much about him.

We know he can escape pressure, buy time, throw down field or run for a 1st.

Will the OL hold up for him to make the long throws? The suspect OL benefited from the quick scheme ... so now we are asking Lucas to maintain his assignment for 3.5 seconds vs 2.5? ... okay

Can we make quick read and throws?

Can he control the clock if we are up 2 scores in the 2nd half?

if we get behind in the first half, will he press and throw 3 ints?

Does he see disguised coverages post snap and change his pre snap thinking?

With this defense, do we want a QB who can win and lose us the game ... or do we want a QB that will let the D determine the outcome?

Shootout QB + Limited weapons + Suspect LT + Good D = mismatched parts imo

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[quote=SunnySide;1279392]Outside of watching highlights of Fitz throwing bombs under pressure and the games against the Skins .. I honestly dont know much about him.

We know he can escape pressure, buy time, throw down field or run for a 1st.

Will the OL hold up for him to make the long throws? The suspect OL benefited from the quick scheme ... so now we are asking Lucas to maintain his assignment for 3.5 seconds vs 2.5? ... okay

Can we make quick read and throws?

Can he control the clock if we are up 2 scores in the 2nd half?

if we get behind in the first half, will he press and throw 3 ints?

Does he see disguised coverages post snap and change his pre snap thinking?

With this defense, do we want a QB who can win and lose us the game ... or do we want a QB that will let the D determine the outcome?

Shootout QB + [B]Limited weapons[/B] + Suspect LT + Good D = mismatched parts imo[/quote]

Do you think we're limited if we have Terry, Golladay or Samuels, Gibson, and Logan Thomas?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1279400]Do you think we're limited if we have Terry, Golladay or Samuels, Gibson, and Logan Thomas?[/quote]

I guess we gotta wait and see what happens. Hopefully we add more and retain Cam Sims. Right now we have the same weapons as last year.

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We have three QB’s that can come in on a moments notice and play competently. Like this move. We have three professional QB’s. No Haskins like liability’s on the roster.

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[quote=Defensewins;1279407]We have three QB’s that can come in on a moments notice and play competently. Like this move. We have three professional QB’s. No Haskins like liability’s on the roster.[/quote]

id bet $1,000 all 3 get a start next season.

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We also have Kelvin Harmon coming back. And I have a feeling he will play well for us. To be clear, we still need WR help, but the cupboard isn’t bare and the draft class is deep at WR.

I am more worried about CB (after losing Darby who played well), LB (which was weak and got weaker by losing KPL), and LT.


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[quote=MTK;1279359]Who are we even expecting him to mentor? Allen? Heinicke? None of these guys are legit long term options as the starter.

Barring someone unexpectedly slipping to us in the draft I think our QB room is set.[/quote]

Actually, I think Fitz is kinda the perfect guy for Heinicke to be in a qb room together. Then go out in the draft and bring in a top 2nd or 3rd round qb and thats a solid qb room.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1279411]Actually, I think Fitz is kinda the perfect guy for Heinicke to be in a qb room together. Then go out in the draft and bring in a top 2nd or 3rd round qb and thats a solid qb room.[/quote]

I don't see us taking another QB that high, later rounds or undrafted maybe.

We need day 1 starters in rounds 1-3.

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I do not want a QB that wants or needs a mentor. You know who needed that? Haskins. Do not want. Sure you like to have a vet that younger guys can learn the ropes from. But that's as far as it goes. At the end of the day it's cut throat competition.

The Mahomes example is a weak one cause he would have been great regardless. Sure he learned from Smith how to go about his business and what not. But what would Smith actually teach him? How to check the ball down 9 out of 10 times?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1279411]Actually, I think Fitz is kinda the perfect guy for Heinicke to be in a qb room together. Then go out in the draft and bring in a top 2nd or 3rd round qb and thats a solid qb room.[/quote]

so which QB is drafted in the mid rounds? Newman? Mond?

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[quote=calia;1279410]We also have Kelvin Harmon coming back. And I have a feeling he will play well for us. To be clear, we still need WR help, but the cupboard isn’t bare and the draft class is deep at WR.

I am more worried about CB (after losing Darby who played well), LB (which was weak and got weaker by losing KPL), and LT.


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Harmon had a SOLID rookie season and I was excited for year 2. Saw him make an amazing one-handed catch live against the Lions.

if we just add one solid FA or rookie, our pass catchers are solid.

McLaurin
Harmon
C. Sims
I. Wright
Gibson (remember, former WR)
McKissic (also)
L. Thomas

Another WR (Curtis Samuel!)
Another TE

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From ESPN:

[B]Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB, Washington Football Team[/B]
The deal: One year, $10 million
Top 100 ranking: 51

Grade: A-

What should an NFL team do when it doesn't have an obvious starting quarterback, doesn't like its trade options and isn't in position to draft a franchise player at the position (No. 19 in Round 1)? In recent years, the most popular answer has been to sign Fitzpatrick. As has been said in many of the previous instances, Washington could have done a lot worse.

Based on Total QBR, Fitzpatrick is actually coming off his best season, despite the Dolphins' decision to bench him in favor of Tua Tagovailoa. He was more effective at age 38 than he was at age 30. As he has at other stops, Fitzpatrick will give Washington the time and space to address the position for the long term without feeling immediate pressure on the 2021 season, all while giving it a pretty decent chance to compete in the NFC East. -- Seifert

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I think some need to understand the difference between a teacher/coach and a mentor. The former is supposed to impart knowledge and experience to the student that they just don't have. The latter role is to impart wisdom and experience that a teacher didn't/couldn't impart. A mentor is someone a junior guy seeks information from or listens to/watches and absorbs. No reason why Fitz can't mentor the younger guys in the QB room, as he has a wealth of pro experience that their coaches to this point likely didn't have. If that quote from Tua is 100% then it seems he's a prime candidate to help develop the QB's in the room with him.

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We went 7-9 with absolutely awful quarterback play minus Heinekens playoff performance. Fitz is an instant upgrade at the most important position on the team. We need to address the run game now.

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[quote=punch it in;1279435]We went 7-9 with absolutely awful quarterback play minus Heinekens playoff performance. Fitz is an instant upgrade at the most important position on the team. We need to address the run game now.[/quote]

It's because he's old, Yeah I get that but he's still better than Mitch or Mariota. I saw some skins fans on twitter this morning saying " We could have gotten our franchise QB but no.."

LOL Who was a franchise QB in Free agency? The trade stuff was never going to happen.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1279442]It's because he's old, Yeah I get that but he's still better than Mitch or Mariota. I saw some skins fans on twitter this morning saying " We could have gotten our franchise QB but no.."

LOL Who was a franchise QB in Free agency? The trade stuff was never going to happen.[/quote]

We tried to get Stafford, didn't work out. Guys like Wilson or Watson are a pipe dream and would absolutely decimate our draft capital for the next 3 years. There are simply no other true franchise guys available without a top 5 pick.

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[quote=MTK;1279443]We tried to get Stafford, didn't work out. Guys like Wilson or Watson are a pipe dream and would absolutely decimate our draft capital for the next 3 years. There are simply no other true franchise guys available without a top 5 pick.[/quote]

Even tried to get Goff so yeah I mean Fitz is the next best option and I'm glad they grabbed him

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1279446]Even tried to get Goff so yeah I mean Fitz is the next best option and I'm glad they grabbed him[/quote]

So glad we didn’t get that fucktard Goff. Jeez he was bad last year...I’d rather had gotten Wentz

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McLaurin just moved up fantasy draft boards. When WFT adds another WR either via free agency or the draft (or both) I think McLaurin's value goes even higher.


In my league, I am the only one to have owned Terry. I intend on keeping it that way. It feels like a 3rd or 4th round pick now. I bet he posts big numbers with Fitzmagic. Because Fitzmagic (and his ugly duo Fitztragic) will be throwing the ball his way often.

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Interesting

"The WFT is still very much so interested in Sam Darnold"

NFLN

And another source

Even after signing Ryan Fitzpatrick, I’m told Washington has not ruled out a trade for Sam Darnold, per sources.

It’s a bit more unlikely now, obviously, as WFT won’t be willing to go as high as others in draft compensation, but they still have interest in the #Jets QB.

Connor Hughes

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1279455]McLaurin just moved up fantasy draft boards. When WFT adds another WR either via free agency or the draft (or both) I think McLaurin's value goes even higher.


In my league, I am the only one to have owned Terry. I intend on keeping it that way. It feels like a 3rd or 4th round pick now. I bet he posts big numbers with Fitzmagic. Because Fitzmagic (and his ugly duo Fitztragic) will be throwing the ball his way often.[/quote]

For sure, Thomas will benefit from this too. One of good things about Fitz is he will give receivers multiple chances every game.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1279363]C'mon.. This whole mentoring stuff is a bunch of bullshit. Fitz wants to play. Not change diapers. I remember Brett Favre saying it wasn't his job to mentor anyone and that always stuck w/ me. Rodgers turned out ok. Is Rodgers sitting around mentoring Jordan Love? No. Yes you can learn from a vet by watching but that is as far as it should go. Heinike and Allen don't need anyone to hold their hands. If a QB needs his hand held and needs to be coddled by a vet then you got the wrong guy.[/quote]

Your prime example is a qb who sat for 3 years before getting his shot? Come on.

Obviously Rodgers isn't holding Love's hand, probably far from it tbh, but guys like Allen and Heinicke are young and can definitely benefit from the Fitzpatrick perspective. You can't duplicate experience.

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The thing I don't get is I saw someone type Fitz could throw 4td's or 4int's he'll be exciting but then they say NO to Winston. I hope I'm proved wrong. I've always been overly optimistic with this team but I can't be for this. I hope our defense plays lights out.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1279464]The thing I don't get is I saw someone type Fitz could throw 4td's or 4int's he'll be exciting but then they say NO to Winston. I hope I'm proved wrong. I've always been overly optimistic with this team but I can't be for this. I hope our defense plays lights out.[/quote]

There was no way New Orleans was going to let Winston go. So that's why he was a no for me.

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have watched a couple games from 2020. Jags and SF.. Dude is slinging it