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Couldn't even get a late round pick for AGG? Seems odd. Some very average UDFA are being traded between other teams for 5th and sixth rounders

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Moreland cut?!??

AGG gone?!?

Reaves I always thought looked a step to slow for the nfl.

We have a better team than I thought.

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[URL="https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1432695537879461895"]Wes Martin cut[/URL]

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1288546][URL="https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1432695537879461895"]Wes Martin cut[/URL][/quote]

I don't think many will be surprised by that, may make it back onto the practice squad but a bit of a disappointment after showing something in his rookie year

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1288444]Here's my prediction for the final 53. Not a lot of surprises, but a couple difficult decisions.

[B]Offense - 26[/B]
[B]QB[/B] Ryan Fitzpatrick, Taylor Heinicke, Kyle Allen
[B]RB[/B] Antonio Gibson, J.D. McKissic, Jaret Patterson, Peyton Barber
[B]WR[/B] Terry McLaurin, Dyami Brown, Antonio Gandy-Golden, Curtis Samuel, Cam Sims, Adam Humphries, DeAndre Carter
[B]TE[/B] Logan Thomas, John Bates, Sammis Reyes
[B]OL[/B] Charles Leno Jr., Cornelius Lucas, Wes Schweitzer, Ereck Flowers, Chase Roullier, Brandon Scherff, Sam Cosmi, Saahdiq Charles, Tyler Larsen

[B]Defense - 24[/B]
[B]DE[/B] Chase Young, Montez Sweat, James Smith-Williams, Shaka Toney
[B]DT[/B] Jonathan Allen, Matt Ioannidis, Daron Payne, Tim Settle
[B]LB[/B] Jamin Davis, Cole Holcomb, Khaleke Hudson, Jon Bostic, David Mayo
[B]DB[/B] Kendall Fuller, Jimmy Moreland, Landon Collins, Kamren Curl, Bobby McCain, William Jackson III, Benjamin St-Juste, Torry McTyer, Deshazor Everett, Jeremy Reaves, Troy Apke

[B]ST - 3[/B]
Dustin Hopkins, Tress Way, Camaron Cheeseman
Returning kicks/punts - DeAndre Carter, Jaret Patterson


A couple notes:
[B]OL[/B] - We are finally rid of the Wes Martin experiment. Larsen wins the backup Center job. I feel like the OL is full of starting caliber players.

[B]WR[/B] - I wanted to keep Milne, but there's just no room. Carter wins the last WR spot due to his return abilities.

[B]TE[/B] - I chose Sammis over Ricky based solely on potential. It's a toss-up to me.

[B]DB[/B] - I struggled with the decision between Apke and Johnson. It is obvious to me that the coaches feel more comfortable with Apke than Johnson in the secondary. Johnson is a solid ST player, but it appears (at least in the eyes of the coaches) that Apke offers more overall. Hopefully he doesn't actually see the field much as a Corner - but you could probably say that about both of them.[/quote]

With Moreland, Reaves, AGG and Barber, that's 4 guys we thought would make the team that aren't... who's making it in their place ? I had rookie Darrick Forrest in there and looks like he will... other ideas ?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288530]Cuts so far today - per sources

From Ben Standig

9:24
Washington started the day needing to trim the roster by 17. So far they have released (per sources):
WR AGG
RB Peyton Barber
G Wes Martin
DE Bunmi Rotimi
OT David Sharpe
CB Jimmy Moreland
S Jeremy Reaves
OT David Steinmetz
DE William Bradley-King (
@john_keim
1st)
CB Danny Johnson
LB Jordan Kunaszyk

From Monday:
QB Steven Montez
RB Jonathan Williams
WR Isaiah Wright
WR Tony Brown
TE Caleb Wilson
OL Jon Toth
DL Devaroe Lawrence
LB Joe Walker
CB Linden Stephens
S Cole Luke

1 QB 4 OL 3 WR 2 RB 1 TE
3 DL 2 LB 3CB 2 S[/quote]

latest full list about 6 cuts left

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I really thought Moreland, AGG, and Reaves would be safe. I know Apke is fast but he is terrible and coverage and offers no flexibility to the team.

Looks like Dax makes the team if AGG is gone.


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[quote=EdmundDorf;1288547]I don't think many will be surprised by that, may make it back onto the practice squad but a bit of a disappointment after showing something in his rookie year[/quote]

Definitely not a surprise to me. Many of us were high on him when he was drafted, but he has mainly been a huge disappointment ever since. Rivera gave him an opportunity last year and he didn't seize it.

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Stroman, Johnson, Reaves, and Moreland - that’s a lot of guys from our secondary last year who were axed.

At least Moreland and Reaves will be signed elsewhere I’ll bet.


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Need for a vet outside corner just became a huge need.

We should have some decent options.

-------------------------

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/player-cuts-tracker-nfl-teams-53-man-rosters-for-2021-season[/url]

^^ live list of cuts per team .. doesnt have Moreland updated so it might be going by official team statements and not beat reporters

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Interesting to see what happens to Daryl Roberts.

Barber will be back on the 53 soon, he is an easy waive and pickup that talking heads had been thinking this would happen. It is clear they still need him for the short yardage game

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Looking like there may be 9 DL.

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Surprised that they don't stick some of these guys on IR for the year.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1288558]Surprised that they don't stick some of these guys on IR for the year.[/quote]

IR still counts against Salary Cap numbers.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1288548]With Moreland, Reaves, AGG and Barber, that's 4 guys we thought would make the team that aren't... who's making it in their place ? I had rookie Darrick Forrest in there and looks like he will... other ideas ?[/quote]

I don't know man.

At this point it definitely looks good for Milne and Forrest.

Maybe they keep 4 TEs?, an extra O-lineman (Ismael), D-line (Bada)...? Probably one of these three...

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Wonder if we will try to sign AGG to practice squad? I thought he finally showed some progress in the last 2 preseason games, but perhaps it wasn't enough for the coaches.

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He just gets no separation from DBs and in this offense that is critical

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288561]IR still counts against Salary Cap numbers.[/quote]

True of course, I hadn't thought about that. But with the likes of Moreland and AGG likely going to get picked up on waivers it would hardly break the bank to keep them around a year on IR to see if they can get better. Most of the others are going to be available to sign to the PS. I suppose that they just don't think they can play at a high enough level. I would have liked to at least have gotten a couple of late round picks in return. Hate wasting mid round picks. For every Cole Holcomb and Matt Ionnidis there has to be an AGG or Wes Martin I suppose

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Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
· 6m
The #Patriots have released Cam Newton, source said.

WOW

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1288572]Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
· 6m
The #Patriots have released Cam Newton, source said.

WOW[/QUOTE]


Please no. I know he and RR are tight but please no. Bellichick doesn’t fuck around, man.


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[quote=EdmundDorf;1288572]Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
· 6m
The #Patriots have released Cam Newton, source said.

WOW[/quote]

I could see Cam going to Dallas to back up Dak.

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Ron has had the chance to sign him the last two years and didn't, hopefully a good omen. Besides he isn't going to sign anywhere where he is the third string QB, may not be much use as a second string to be honest.

[Edit] Wonder if he asked for his release when it became clear that Mac Jones was the day 1 starter

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I wonder if RR is waiting for Zach Ertz to be released. I wouldn’t be surprised. And Jordan Hicks too.


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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1288563]I don't know man.

At this point it definitely looks good for Milne and Forrest.

Maybe they keep 4 TEs?, an extra O-lineman (Ismael), D-line (Bada)...? Probably one of these three...[/quote]

Milne, Forrest definitely likely.
4 TEs? I'm not even sure I know the name of 4 TEs on this team. Well technically I do but have no idea how good Ricky Seal Jones is.

Keeping Ismael would indeed make sense, may still turn into a quality back up center.
I don't know about Bada, we keep saying his name because he flashed in the third pre-season game, but one thing we're learning tonight is [I][U]pre-season doesn't teach us a lot[/U][/I]. Coaches make decision based on what they see in camp more than those games, unless there's a huge surprise of a guy rising/collapsing to game-like pressure. So don't know if his pre-season sack is enough to earn him a spot, while we have an extra "international" practice squad spot waiting for him...

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John Keim
@john_keim
·
1m
Per source: TE Sammis Reyes and CB Troy Apke will be on Washington's 53-man roster.

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Big question will be are any of the surprise cuts among the 8 unvaccinated players.

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Interesting stat:

@NickiJhabvala
With Jimmy Moreland and Wes Martin getting cut today, only 11 Washington draft picks from 2015-19 are still on the roster:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-IJXQRXsAU5ObM?format=png&name=900x900[/IMG]

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Ron still clearing out guys from the old regime, though I think it says more about the drafting ability of the old regime more than anything.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1288586]Interesting stat:

@NickiJhabvala
With Jimmy Moreland and Wes Martin getting cut today, only 11 Washington draft picks from 2015-19 are still on the roster:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-IJXQRXsAU5ObM?format=png&name=900x900[/IMG][/quote]

Would be interesting to compare with other teams, those are all very good to elite players.

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I think the tie breakers definitely go to the latest draft picks due to cost and control.

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John Keim
@john_keim
·
6m
DE Daniel Wise has been waived, per source. PS candidate.

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Roster spot for Shaka?

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John Keim
@john_keim
·
33s
Also, as
@BenStandig
tweeted: Dax Milne also will make the roster.

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Nicki Jhabvala
@NickiJhabvala
·
46s
The Washington Football Team waived C Keith Ismael, per source.

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Unless I am wrong I think that leaves 3 guys left to be cut

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[quote=calia;1288580]I wonder if RR is waiting for Zach Ertz to be released. I wouldn’t be surprised. And Jordan Hicks too.


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Would have thought Jags would immediately claim him on waivers.

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Ben Standig
@BenStandig
·
2m
One more: Washington has released OL Beau Benzschawel, per source.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288530]Cuts so far today - per sources

From Ben Standig

12:45pm
Washington started the day needing to trim the roster by 17. So far they have released (per sources):

OL Beau Benzschawel
C Keith Ismael
DL Gabe Wright
DL Daniel Wise
WR AGG
RB Peyton Barber
G Wes Martin
DE Bunmi Rotimi
OT David Sharpe
CB Jimmy Moreland - released injured
S Jeremy Reaves
OT David Steinmetz
DE William Bradley-King (@john_keim 1st)
CB Danny Johnson
LB Jordan Kunaszyk

From Monday:
QB Steven Montez
RB Jonathan Williams
WR Isaiah Wright
WR Tony Brown
TE Caleb Wilson
OL Jon Toth
DL Devaroe Lawrence
LB Joe Walker
CB Linden Stephens
S Cole Luke

1 QB 6 OL 3 WR 2 RB 1 TE
5 DL 2 LB 3CB 2 S[/quote]
updated at 1pm - 25 cuts out of 27

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@BenStandig
At this point, Washington must move two more players by 4 p.m. to reach the 53-player roster limit. Those thought to be on the bubble whose status we don't know yet include:

WR/PR DeAndre Carter
LB Jared Norris
DL Shaka Toney [B](per Keim - he will make the 53-man roster)[/B]
TE Ricky Seals-Jones
CB Darryl Roberts

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[quote=Ruhskins;1288618]@BenStandig
At this point, Washington must move two more players by 4 p.m. to reach the 53-player roster limit. Those thought to be on the bubble whose status we don't know yet include:

WR/PR DeAndre Carter
LB Jared Norris
DL Shaka Toney [B](per Keim - he will make the 53-man roster)[/B]
TE Ricky Seals-Jones
CB Darryl Roberts[/quote]

I think Carter is safe as we need someone to return punts and kicks.