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[quote=MTK;1291652]^ I don't think the game threads are a really great barometer of any sort of football knowledge, certainly not the place for any sane or rational thought either.[/quote]

That's it I'm leaving.

I was under the impression this place was some sort of football MENSA and the game day threads were actually college-level courses in how to become an expert on football. If that isn't the case, deuces.

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It's all about coaching adjustments prior to the game, in-game and execution on the field. Otherwise we don't stand a chance.

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If our defense doesn't keep Allen in check, we'll lose!

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I agree with everyone that says this game won't be close.
Josh Allen gets 100 yards rushing.

Why do we not have run pass option in our playbook? I can understand them being afraid of TH getting hurt,but at least run the damn play,give the look so there's at least the threat of it,just pass it dont let him run with it.

I was pretty damn close with my pregame prediction last week,but would love to be dead wrong this week

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=1290403&postcount=73[/url]

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[quote=htownskinfan;1291722]I agree with everyone that says this game won't be close.
Josh Allen gets 100 yards rushing.

Why do we not have run pass option in our playbook? I can understand them being afraid of TH getting hurt,but at least run the damn play,give the look so there's at least the threat of it,just pass it dont let him run with it.

I was pretty damn close with my pregame prediction last week,but would love to be dead wrong this week

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=1290403&postcount=73[/url][/quote]

not to pick, but it doesn't seem like you were very close at all. You said Barkely has his biggest game in 2 years. and had both teams at 20 or under.

That said, I think they are trying to get him used to being in the pocket and not running at the first sign of trouble. I believe they will add in more twists as he gets more reps with the ones, and IF Samuels comes back and plays the playbook will open even more.

Not this week though :(

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Week 1 Steelers @ Bills is a fun game to watch if you like tough defensive football.
14 of the Steelers' 23 points came on: a blocked punt in the redzone returned for 6; and an incredible and kinda flukish TD catch by Diontae Johnson, DB tips the ball and he stills makes the catch, TD set up by a long DPI on 3 down from the 50.

So, I really don't see us winning this game, but, things that give me a [I][U]little bit of hope[/U][/I]:
-It is possible to put [I][U]Allen under a lot of pressure[/U][/I], Pittsburg did it, so if our DL wants to prove they are actually top 5 in the NFL, now is the time.
-[B][U]Heinickeee[/U][/B]

Things that [I][U]I already feared[/U][/I]:
-Very tough, disciplined and [I][U]complete defense[/U][/I]
-[I][U]Fierce DL[/U][/I], Taylor will have to make plays on the run
-Josh Allen can throw and so far [I][U]we haven't proved we can handle mobile QBs well[/U][/I]...

One [I][U]scary thing that I discovered[/U][/I] watching the game:
-The [I][U]Bills running game is legit[/U][/I]. Singletary has really good vision and ability to make a lot with very little space. Gap responsibility by our front 7 will be key.

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Here are a few stats I pulled through the first two games. Obviously a small sample size and different opponents. This could be the best offense Buffalo has faced so far, and the best defense WFT has faced so far.

Honestly, if the defense plays to their ability, this should be a win. However, if the defense plays like they have the first two games, it's a sure loss.

[B][U]Offense[/U][/B]

Points: WFT 46 / [B]BUF 51[/B]
Yards gained per pass attempt: [B]WFT 7.0[/B] / BUF 5.3
Yards gained per rush attempt: WFT 4.3 / [B]BUF 4.7[/B]
Yards per play: [B]WFT 5.6[/B] / BUF 4.8
Total yards: WFT 666 / [B]BUF 685[/B]
Percentage of drives ending in an offensive score: [B]WFT 50%[/B] / BUF 37.5%
Average points scored per drive: [B]WFT 2.3[/B] / BUF 2.13
Percentage of drives ending in a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 12.5%

[U][B]Defense[/B][/U]

Points allowed: WFT 49 / [B]BUF 23[/B]
Yards allowed per pass attempt: WFT 6.6 / [B]BUF 3.8[/B]
Yards allowed per rush attempt: WFT 4.4 / [B]BUF 3.6[/B]
Yards allowed per play: WFT 5.7 / [B]BUF 3.7[/B]
Total yards allowed: WFT 815 / [B]BUF 468[/B]
Percentage of drives allowing a score: WFT 55% / [B]BUF 17.4%[/B]
Average points allowed per drive: WFT 2.45 / [B]BUF 0.7[/B]
Percentage of drives forcing a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 8.7%
QB Pressures per drop back: WFT 25.3% / [B]BUF 33%[/B]
Missed tackles: [B]WFT 6[/B] / BUF 18

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1291726]Here are a few stats I pulled through the first two games. Obviously a small sample size and different opponents. This could be the best offense Buffalo has faced so far, and the best defense WFT has faced so far.



Honestly, if the defense plays to their ability, this should be a win. However, if the defense plays like they have the first two games, it's a sure loss.



[B][U]Offense[/U][/B]



Points: WFT 46 / [B]BUF 51[/B]

Yards gained per pass attempt: [B]WFT 7.0[/B] / BUF 5.3

Yards gained per rush attempt: WFT 4.3 / [B]BUF 4.7[/B]

Yards per play: [B]WFT 5.6[/B] / BUF 4.8

Total yards: WFT 666 / [B]BUF 685[/B]

Percentage of drives ending in an offensive score: [B]WFT 50%[/B] / BUF 37.5%

Average points scored per drive: [B]WFT 2.3[/B] / BUF 2.13

Percentage of drives ending in a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 12.5%



[U][B]Defense[/B][/U]



Points allowed: WFT 49 / [B]BUF 23[/B]

Yards allowed per pass attempt: WFT 6.6 / [B]BUF 3.8[/B]

Yards allowed per rush attempt: WFT 4.4 / [B]BUF 3.6[/B]

Yards allowed per play: WFT 5.7 / [B]BUF 3.7[/B]

Total yards allowed: WFT 815 / [B]BUF 468[/B]

Percentage of drives allowing a score: WFT 55% / [B]BUF 17.4%[/B]

Average points allowed per drive: WFT 2.45 / [B]BUF 0.7[/B]

Percentage of drives forcing a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 8.7%

QB Pressures per drop back: WFT 25.3% / [B]BUF 33%[/B]

Missed tackles: [B]WFT 6[/B] / BUF 18[/QUOTE]6 missed tackles? Where is the stat for missing in action?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1291726]Here are a few stats I pulled through the first two games. Obviously a small sample size and different opponents. This could be the best offense Buffalo has faced so far, and the best defense WFT has faced so far.

Honestly, if the defense plays to their ability, this should be a win. However, if the defense plays like they have the first two games, it's a sure loss.

[B][U]Offense[/U][/B]

Points: WFT 46 / [B]BUF 51[/B]
Yards gained per pass attempt: [B]WFT 7.0[/B] / BUF 5.3
Yards gained per rush attempt: WFT 4.3 / [B]BUF 4.7[/B]
Yards per play: [B]WFT 5.6[/B] / BUF 4.8
Total yards: WFT 666 / [B]BUF 685[/B]
Percentage of drives ending in an offensive score: [B]WFT 50%[/B] / BUF 37.5%
Average points scored per drive: [B]WFT 2.3[/B] / BUF 2.13
Percentage of drives ending in a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 12.5%

[U][B]Defense[/B][/U]

Points allowed: WFT 49 / [B]BUF 23[/B]
Yards allowed per pass attempt: WFT 6.6 / [B]BUF 3.8[/B]
Yards allowed per rush attempt: WFT 4.4 / [B]BUF 3.6[/B]
Yards allowed per play: WFT 5.7 / [B]BUF 3.7[/B]
Total yards allowed: WFT 815 / [B]BUF 468[/B]
Percentage of drives allowing a score: WFT 55% / [B]BUF 17.4%[/B]
Average points allowed per drive: WFT 2.45 / [B]BUF 0.7[/B]
Percentage of drives forcing a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 8.7%
QB Pressures per drop back: WFT 25.3% / [B]BUF 33%[/B]
Missed tackles: [B]WFT 6[/B] / BUF 18[/quote]

Bills' D didn't allow 23 points, 7 of those came from a blocked punt ;-)

Interesting compiling though, thanks.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1291727]6 missed tackles? Where is the stat for missing in action?

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Agreed in that you have to be in position to make a tackle (not running down field after their QB), it's worth noting that to my mind, we've improved on tackling since last year. No more (or at least few) throwing themselves at BC's feet etc. I like watching St Juste play because he's a sure tackler.

Always believed that without sound fundamentals then it's so much harder to build a strong D. Now that includes gap assignments, so we're not there yet, but personally I believe this D can only get better over the coming weeks.

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Bills -8? I'd take that

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1291815]Bills -8? I'd take that[/quote]

Give me Skins +8 all day

[url]https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/234494-week-3-wft-at-bills/[/url]

They seem a bit too high on themselves and their 1-1 record.

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Nice takes from Mark Bullock on [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-149-film-breakdown-with-washington-football/id1553345193?i=1000536112622"]Galdi's pod[/URL] , I'm thinking of subscribing to his site to have access to his breakdowns, but those are long af, interesting too, but not sure I'd have time to actually read em.

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[URL="https://twitter.com/Ihartitz/status/1439992221139361793"]Heinicke is number 1 in both PFF's big time throw rate and turnover worthy throw rate.[/URL]

Means he's making the most big gain and/or tight window throws while also making the least plays that couda/shouda been picked/fumbled.

Just a stat, but the narrative that we know for a fact he's not the answer needs to stop.

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Nobody on this board is going to be happy after this game. Our coaching staff is just not good enough. It’s a damn shame too because there is enough young talent on this team to be legitimate contenders for a while.
Do not bet on us to cover. It is not happening.
Bills 38
WTF 23

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[quote=punch it in;1291837]Nobody on this board is going to be happy after this game. Our coaching staff is just not good enough. It’s a damn shame too because there is enough young talent on this team to be legitimate contenders for a while.
Do not bet on us to cover. It is not happening.
Bills 38
WTF 23[/quote]

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[quote=SunnySide;1291827]Give me Skins +8 all day

[url]https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/234494-week-3-wft-at-bills/[/url]

They seem a bit too high on themselves and their 1-1 record.[/quote]

A buddy I work with asked me today about game .. he is a gambler .. I told him nobody loves the skins more than me however I would bet the HOUSE on the bills at anything under 9 .. he took Bills for a grand ! Guys I’m hoping but this game ain’t gonna be close .. even if The D shows up Taylor is due for a letdown .. I just don’t see this going our way .I thought he was gonna bet like a hundred .. not what he did .. now I’m nervous 😬

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[quote=rocnrik;1291840]A buddy I work with asked me today about game .. he is a gambler .. I told him nobody loves the skins more than me however I would bet the HOUSE on the bills at anything under 9 .. he took Bills for a grand ! Guys I’m hoping but this game ain’t gonna be close .. even if The D shows up Taylor is due for a letdown .. I just don’t see this going our way .I thought he was gonna bet like a hundred .. not what he did .. now I’m nervous 😬[/quote]

Haha cool story. He's a grown man though, still rooting for us to pull the upset.
But I agree with you, I don't see how we win this one, and they have the tool to make it ugly.
With a couple of breaks going our way, TH making some plays and the DL finally stepping up big time, we may be able to keep it close.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1291838][IMG]https://c.tenor.com/2739Fe1Wj-QAAAAC/whomp-whomp.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Like I said do not take the WTF to cover. You will thank me later.

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This game is just the beginning of the brutal part of our schedule. They need to pull off a win against 2 or 3 out of
Bills
Saints
Chiefs
Packers
Broncos
Bucs

None of those are likely wins, so they might as well get an upset this week just for the hell of it.



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LOL love it Cred.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1291846]This game is just the beginning of the brutal part of our schedule. They need to pull off a win against 2 or 3 out of
Bills
Saints
Chiefs
Packers
Broncos
Bucs

None of those are likely wins, so they might as well get an upset this week just for the hell of it.



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Saints , Denver and GB are all winnable games. It would be huge to beat Buffalo Sunday

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They better beat the Broncos, I'm taking the family to that game!

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1291848]Saints , Denver and GB are all winnable games. It would be huge to beat Buffalo Sunday[/QUOTE]Yes they are winnable but we won't be favored if we don't beat the Bills. We could crush the Falcons and the narrative would be we only beat the bad teams. And so far that seems legit.

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To quote americas greatest philosopher

"What's with all the negative vibes, have a little faith baby!"

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[quote=punch it in;1291845]Like I said do not take the WTF to cover. You will thank me later.[/quote]

For as much as I love sports, I'm not a gambler. Glad I'm not as the few times I have made a bet I haven't had much luck.

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Speaking of gambling all the ads are a little off putting to me. I have nothing against gambling, but it's just a constant barrage of advertising these days.

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[IMG]https://i.gifer.com/4IW9.gif[/IMG]


Sports betting ads and testostorone supplements be like ... buddy, buddy, buddy!

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[quote=SunnySide;1291870][IMG]https://i.gifer.com/4IW9.gif[/IMG]

Sports betting ads and testostorone supplements be like ... buddy, buddy, buddy![/quote]

Lol. Spambusters!!

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[quote=MTK;1291869]Speaking of gambling all the ads are a little off putting to me. I have nothing against gambling, but it's just a constant barrage of advertising these days.[/quote]

They got me here. Those fuckers.

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I saw this: [url]https://twitter.com/InstantRHIplay/status/1441081792358850575?s=20[/url]
Tried to find the article that Ron "read" but couldn't find it. Also tried to find percentage of plays. CY, Sweat, Payne, Allen and Matty I are all on the field together. I imagine that would be helpful in exploiting 1 on 1 match ups.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1291867]For as much as I love sports, I'm not a gambler. Glad I'm not as the few times I have made a bet I haven't had much luck.[/QUOTE]


Neither am I. I have a very addictive personality so thank God I never had the notion…..No doubt I would lose everything.

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I'll play a parlay here and there but i know my limits

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1291917]I'll play a parlay here and there but i know my limits[/quote]

The parlays are fun, i did them in Vegas. Really cheap and it just keeps you interested in crappy games.

I love when it's parlays where say Brady has to throw 4 receptions by end of the first quarter.

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Skins 24
Bills 16

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WFT 37
Bills 24

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Bills 37
WFT 24

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Game 3 ... I figure we are due for a ST or a D touchdown. How many TOs have we forced? I feel like that one Jackson int was it.

10 days to prepare.

Lets go

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1291919]The parlays are fun, i did them in Vegas. Really cheap and it just keeps you interested in crappy games.

I love when it's parlays where say Brady has to throw 4 receptions by end of the first quarter.[/QUOTE]


With my luck Brady would have the only bad quarter of his life. [emoji17]

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1291927]Bills 37
WFT 24[/QUOTE]


Lol
I didn’t know Matty was dyslexic!