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Fucking Cowboys God i hate them and they continue to haunt my dreams

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Dallas is really good on O. and Diggs continues to make plays. I'm a fan of Dak as well, he's a gamer and seems to make big times late in games. I wish we were as good of an organization as them. Must be nice

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Must be nice to have a defense that tackles, is ferocious enough to pressure the qb and hunt the ball..... that's every other fuckin team I watch Del Rio and Rivera are a joke.... Scott is t oo. Offensive play calling is just ad shit.

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[quote=Meks;1296158]Must be nice to have a defense that tackles, is ferocious enough to pressure the qb and hunt the ball..... that's every other fuckin team I watch Del Rio and Rivera are a joke.... Scott c too. Offensive play calling is just ad shit.[/quote]

CY has no pass rush moves at all.. He tries to use speed and never gets home. He's been the biggest disappointment all season, this was a guy 90% of people called a "generational" talent

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1296159]CY has no pass rush moves at all.. He tries to use speed and never gets home. He's been the biggest disappointment all season, this was a guy 90% of people called a "generational" talent[/quote]

It might have been even higher than 90%. He was considered the best player in the draft by everyone. I don’t think I heard or saw a single argument against taking him at 2.

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I mean I watched his college highlights and literally thought to myself... OK he's fast... I don't see generational talent I only see one guy who's faster than a lot of tackles... I wasn't happy with the pick... welcomed him and trusted the process... was impressed last year only to find out he's put in zero work on pass rush moves or technique and hasn't been coached up AT ALL. It's fucked and I hope he gets better but like I keep saying.... JAG. I see every other team with better ends than ours this year.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1296160]It might have been even higher than 90%. He was considered the best player in the draft by everyone. I don’t think I heard or saw a single argument against taking him at 2.[/quote]

We saw what he was capable of last year. At some point we have to look to the position coaches if they aren't coaching him up. I don't think it's a stretch to think they aren't playing up to his strencths...same way they aren't playing to the secondary strengths. I don't take away all blame from him at all...but I think the coaching is truly in shambles at this point.

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[quote=Meks;1296161]I mean I watched his college highlights and literally thought to myself... OK he's fast... I don't see generational talent I only see one guy who's faster than a lot of tackles... I wasn't happy with the pick... welcomed him and trusted the process... was impressed last year only to find out he's put in zero work on pass rush moves or technique and hasn't been coached up AT ALL. It's fucked and I hope he gets better but like I keep saying.... JAG. I see every other team with better ends than ours this year.[/quote]

Yep, Dallas is out there with no names and old as Gregory and getting sacks.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1296148]Dallas is really good on O. and Diggs continues to make plays. I'm a fan of Dak as well, he's a gamer and seems to make big times late in games. I wish we were as good of an organization as them. Must be nice[/quote]

Be still my heart. Is this actually a post that, at the very least, gives a respectful nod to a rival for what they have built over the last few years? Checking the headlines for a blizzard in Hell right now. C'mon over to the dark side 'Skins.... I've a game worn Witten jersey for you.

Okay, so it was me and not Witten that wore it in a game, but still....... ;)

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1296168]Be still my heart. Is this actually a post that, at the very least, gives a respectful nod to a rival for what they have built over the last few years? Checking the headlines for a blizzard in Hell right now. C'mon over to the dark side 'Skins.... I've a game worn Witten jersey for you.

Okay, so it was me and not Witten that wore it in a game, but still....... ;)[/quote]

LOL , My whole family is Dallas fans man. I hate them but I respect them. They have done a great job for sure

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1296168]Be still my heart. Is this actually a post that, at the very least, gives a respectful nod to a rival for what they have built over the last few years? Checking the headlines for a blizzard in Hell right now. C'mon over to the dark side 'Skins.... I've a game worn Witten jersey for you.

Okay, so it was me and not Witten that wore it in a game, but still....... ;)[/quote]

No, it is not. Dallas gets help from the refs whom they massage the ballsacks of on weeknights and have luck beyond anything I've ever seen. Dak is mediocre and only makes good throws when opposing DE's are held etc etc etc.

Dallas sucks and if they do make it, one and done, brush.

Lol

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1296168]Be still my heart. Is this actually a post that, at the very least, gives a respectful nod to a rival for what they have built over the last few years? Checking the headlines for a blizzard in Hell right now. C'mon over to the dark side 'Skins.... I've a game worn Witten jersey for you.

Okay, so it was me and not Witten that wore it in a game, but still....... ;)[/quote]

If I was lost, butt-naked in sub-zero temperatures and came across a Witten jersey I would piss on it and move on.

:puke:

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[quote=Ruhskins;1296143]Cousins has gone 28-25-1 in a much better team/better run organization. I don't understand people thinking that he'd do any better in our dysfunctional organization.[/quote]

The QB W/L record is the worst way to judge a QB. But since so many seem to be worried about it, what is our W-L record since he left? Is the offense any better since he left? We all know what Kirk is, he needs a team around him like a lot of guys do. But he added some serious stability which we have not had at the most important position since he left, nor did we have it before he took over as the full time starter.

One of the worst decisions Snyder made was letting him walk and not paying him.

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[quote=Meks;1296170]No, it is not. Dallas gets help from the refs whom they massage the ballsacks of on weeknights and have luck beyond anything I've ever seen. Dak is mediocre and only makes good throws when opposing DE's are held etc etc etc.

Dallas sucks and if they do make it, one and done, brush.

Lol[/quote]

If they were 'massage the ballsacks' as you accuse, then why were they flagged 12 times for 147 penalty yards to the Patriots 4 flags for 47 yards yesterday?

Dak mediocre? Well, if it helps you sleep at night....

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ESPN First take might as well be called "DALLAS HOUR:"

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It's going to make their inevitable collapse even more satisfying

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yep

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7 games into a 17 game season, and I'm already down to hoping we lose the rest of our games to get the 1st pick and waiting for the playoffs to root against the Cowboys.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1296251]The QB W/L record is the worst way to judge a QB. But since so many seem to be worried about it, what is our W-L record since he left? Is the offense any better since he left? We all know what Kirk is, he needs a team around him like a lot of guys do. But he added some serious stability which we have not had at the most important position since he left, nor did we have it before he took over as the full time starter.

One of the worst decisions Snyder made was letting him walk and not paying him.[/quote]

I don't understand how a QB that has done marginally well in a much better run organization, and a team with a hell of a lot more talent, could have done better in our train wreck of an organization.

Cousins is not good enough of a QB to have overcome the dysfunction of this organization, which is what you imply by saying that it was the worst mistake to let him walk.

There are very few QBs that could have changed our team's situation over the past 3 years, and Kirk Cousins is not one of them (hell he hasn't even changed Minnesota's situation).

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1296280]I don't understand how a QB that has done marginally well in a much better run organization, and a team with a hell of a lot more talent, could have done better in our train wreck of an organization.

Cousins is not good enough of a QB to have overcome the dysfunction of this organization, which is what you imply by saying that it was the worst mistake to let him walk.

There are very few QBs that could have changed our team's situation over the past 3 years, and Kirk Cousins is not one of them (hell he hasn't even changed Minnesota's situation).[/QUOTE]


Football is a team sport. Cousins cannot help where he plays or who he plays with. He has a 70 percent completion percentage. 10 td’s to 2 picks. A rating on par with Aaron Rodgers. It is obvious you detest the man, but he is a way better quarterback than you think he is.
Also why do you think the Vikings are some well run great team? Lol.

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We definitely blew it with Cousins, but he didn't want to stay. Nobody wants to be here for long. We're a reverse car wash.

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[quote=MTK;1296289]We definitely blew it with Cousins, but he didn't want to stay. Nobody wants to be here for long. We're a reverse car wash.[/quote]

He wanted to leave because Dan was all over RG3's dick even after KC was balling in his absence.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1296280]I don't understand how a QB that has done marginally well in a much better run organization, and a team with a hell of a lot more talent, could have done better in our train wreck of an organization.

Cousins is not good enough of a QB to have overcome the dysfunction of this organization, which is what you imply by saying that it was the worst mistake to let him walk.

There are very few QBs that could have changed our team's situation over the past 3 years, and Kirk Cousins is not one of them (hell he hasn't even changed Minnesota's situation).[/quote]

I never said he was good enough to overcome our organization. But the team was better with him vs w/out and those are facts. The WL record is worse with out him. The offensive production is worse w/out him. Again those are facts.

The issue in Minnesota is the their crappy defense. It is not Cousins. Yeah he throws out a few stinkers like he always does, but over the length of a full season he is a more than capable NFL starter.

Personal feelings aside you have to admit that much.

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[quote=MTK;1296289]We definitely blew it with Cousins, but he didn't want to stay. Nobody wants to be here for long. We're a reverse car wash.[/quote]

This is not true. Kirk wanted to be a free agent. He wanted to test the market. Had the front office showed him respect that he wanted he would have stayed. Instead they disrespected him multiple times.

For what it's worth I heard his wife did not want to leave DC. She loved it here.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1296294]He wanted to leave because Dan was all over RG3's dick even after KC was balling in his absence.[/quote]

It is all water under the bridge now but Dan made numerous mistakes when it came to RG3 and Cousins. Then he screwed up again and drafted Haskins when no one in his building wanted him. What an idiot.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1296315]This is not true. Kirk wanted to be a free agent. He wanted to test the market. Had the front office showed him respect that he wanted he would have stayed. Instead they disrespected him multiple times.

For what it's worth I heard his wife did not want to leave DC. She loved it here.[/quote]

Naw cousins team counter Bruce with 17 mill per and Bruce turned it down.

There was two fuck ups…not getting a relatively decent deal at 17 mill per year for 4-5 years but also then franchising him and then not trading him for at least one 1st and another early draft pick.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1296315]This is not true. Kirk wanted to be a free agent. He wanted to test the market. Had the front office showed him respect that he wanted he would have stayed. Instead they disrespected him multiple times.

For what it's worth I heard his wife did not want to leave DC. She loved it here.[/quote]

What's not true? He wanted to test the market because Allen blew it by lowballing him twice. It's very likely he wasn't staying even if we paid him even more than Minnesota gave him.

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maybe im being cynical or just got my panties in a bunch ... but most of yall didnt want Cousins when he was here.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1296314]I never said he was good enough to overcome our organization. But the team was better with him vs w/out and those are facts. The WL record is worse with out him. The offensive production is worse w/out him. Again those are facts.

The issue in Minnesota is the their crappy defense. It is not Cousins. Yeah he throws out a few stinkers like he always does, but over the length of a full season he is a more than capable NFL starter.

Personal feelings aside you have to admit that much.[/quote]

I see what you are saying, I just don't have any faith in this organization or the previous and current coaching regimes to think that things would have been better. I mean, probably a slight improvement, but not by much.

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[quote=SunnySide;1296322]maybe im being cynical or just got my panties in a bunch ... but most of yall didnt want Cousins when he was here.[/quote]

There was definitely some. Felt like a "if we can't have an elite qb why settle for an above-average one?" dilemma.

It has literally been nothing but downhill in regards to qb play since he left. And here we are yet again without our long term starter of the future settled.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1296315]This is not true. Kirk wanted to be a free agent. He wanted to test the market. Had the front office showed him respect that he wanted he would have stayed. Instead they disrespected him multiple times.

For what it's worth I heard his wife did not want to leave DC. She loved it here.[/QUOTE]


100 percent.

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[quote=MTK;1296318]What's not true? He wanted to test the market because Allen blew it by lowballing him twice. It's very likely he wasn't staying even if we paid him even more than Minnesota gave him.[/quote]

You were saying he was going to leave regardless and that was not the case. All Dan had to do was push Allen aside and get a deal done and he would have stayed.

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Punch, I love the AZ Logo

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The Cowboys are so good on offense. They will get 500 and 35 plus. Lamb is a monster. The Cowboys have some real good young players. smh.

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yeah they do but they will lose Gallup soon and Zeke

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[quote=skinsfan69;1296348]You were saying he was going to leave regardless and that was not the case. All Dan had to do was push Allen aside and get a deal done and he would have stayed.[/quote]

Kirk was going to leave regardless, since then there was no way in hell that Dan was going to get rid of Bruce then.

Also, in the end is all about money (see Trent Williams).

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Derek Henry is such a beast

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[quote=Chico23231;1296376]Derek Henry is such a beast[/quote]

He's like the Juggernaut, once he gets going, hard to stop him.

Also, the Bills are doing their best Washington impression by just getting 3 points of a turnover (and they were in the red zone!)

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[quote=Ruhskins;1296377]He's like the Juggernaut, once he gets going, hard to stop him.

Also, the Bills are doing their best Washington impression by just getting 3 points of a turnover (and they were in the red zone!)[/quote]

I want a physical RB in our backfield. I like Gibby…I like JD…but I’d like another power back.

Tennessee defense secondary can’t cover, like the WFT

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Are you two trying to make yourselves feel better comparing these two very good teams to the shit burger that is the wft?