Re: Best Offensive Skill Talent Since When?
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1316440]Kyle Shanahan has drafted a RB in round 3 two years in a row now.[/quote]

look at the overall body or work of the Shanahan's, Mike and Kyle.... Alfred Morris, Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson, Arian Foster, Mosert, Orlandis Gary.. Probably leaving a lot of guys out. All really good rushers that were not 1st, 2nd or 3rd rounders.

Re: Best Offensive Skill Talent Since When?
 

True, a lot of good RBs can be found in rounds 4-7. I was just pointing out that even the Shanahan's draft RBs before round 4. I think it's just fine, especially if you think there is a need and a guy you really like is sitting there at 98.

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Health is the key. I mean that is true for lots of teams. But some teams just flat out don't have sufficient talent either. We do. If Thomas comes back ready to rock and Samuel got a replacement groin, this offense should be stacked:

WR1: Terry McLaurin
WR2: Jahan Dotson (I think he is about as pro-ready as they come to contribute immediately)
WR3/Slot: Curtis Samuel
TE: Logan Thomas
RB: Antonio Gibson or Brian Robinson or J. D. McKissic (I think Gibson will start but the rotation will be pretty equal for snaps as they all bring something a little different)
QB: Carson Wentz

We will actually be able to throw the ball down the field this year too. That is HUGE change from last year. Wentz can hit the deep ball. Terry about to blow up the league this year.

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This draft was all about surrounding Wentz with weapons and hopefully setting him up for a great season. He got help at WR, TE, and RB. No excuses he has to produce.

Re: Best Offensive Skill Talent Since When?
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1316502]Health is the key. I mean that is true for lots of teams. But some teams just flat out don't have sufficient talent either. We do. If Thomas comes back ready to rock and Samuel got a replacement groin, this offense should be stacked:

WR1: Terry McLaurin
WR2: Jahan Dotson (I think he is about as pro-ready as they come to contribute immediately)
WR3/Slot: Curtis Samuel
TE: Logan Thomas
RB: Antonio Gibson or Brian Robinson or J. D. McKissic (I think Gibson will start but the rotation will be pretty equal for snaps as they all bring something a little different)
QB: Carson Wentz

We will actually be able to throw the ball down the field this year too. That is HUGE change from last year. Wentz can hit the deep ball. Terry about to blow up the league this year.[/quote]

I’m excited, fingers crossed that the injury bug stays away, but there is a lot to like. Takes pressure off the defense too play perfect, which they had too with Haskins, Henike, Allen and Alex Smith under center.

Re: Best Offensive Skill Talent Since When?
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1316502]Health is the key. I mean that is true for lots of teams. But some teams just flat out don't have sufficient talent either. We do. If Thomas comes back ready to rock and Samuel got a replacement groin, this offense should be stacked:

WR1: Terry McLaurin
WR2: Jahan Dotson (I think he is about as pro-ready as they come to contribute immediately)
WR3/Slot: Curtis Samuel
TE: Logan Thomas
RB: Antonio Gibson or Brian Robinson or J. D. McKissic (I think Gibson will start but the rotation will be pretty equal for snaps as they all bring something a little different)
QB: Carson Wentz

[B]We will actually be able to throw the ball down the field this year too. [/B]That is HUGE change from last year. Wentz can hit the deep ball. Terry about to blow up the league this year.[/quote]

That is probably the single most important improvement of the offseason in my opinion. There was absolutely no threat of a down-the-field attack last year, which had a tremendous effect on our ability to run the ball effectively, control the clock, score quickly... Teams will have to respect the deep threat with this QB and the speed of these receivers.

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Every Touchdown Wentz threw with the Eagles.

Full link: [url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y7EPPwefPVs[/url]

Or just click watch on YouTube.

[YT]y7EPPwefPVs[/YT]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1316508]That is probably the single most important improvement of the offseason in my opinion. There was absolutely no threat of a down-the-field attack last year, which had a tremendous effect on our ability to run the ball effectively, control the clock, score quickly... Teams will have to respect the deep threat with this QB and the speed of these receivers.[/quote]

Agreed -- how many times did we see replays where terry was running all alone down the sideline waving for the ball to be thrown his way? Answer: too many. This year should be different, and that should open up our game plan a fair bit. I'm also interested to see the 1-2 punch of Gibson and Robinson.

Re: Best Offensive Skill Talent Since When?
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1316508]That is probably the single most important improvement of the offseason in my opinion. There was absolutely no threat of a down-the-field attack last year, which had a tremendous effect on our ability to run the ball effectively, control the clock, score quickly... Teams will have to respect the deep threat with this QB and the speed of these receivers.[/quote]

[code] Att Comp Yds Avg
Heinicke 571 369 3886 6.8
Wentz 3008 1884 20375 6.8
[/code]


Hmmmm :saywhat:

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[quote=davy;1316537][code] Att Comp Yds Avg
Heinicke 571 369 3886 6.8
Wentz 3008 1884 20375 6.8
[/code]


Hmmmm :saywhat:[/quote]

That's an interesting stat comparison for sure. But all it really tells me is that Scott Turner has figured out a way to do more with less.

There's no doubt Wentz has the ability to push the ball down the field like Taylor Heinicke can only dream about.

The threat is there this year. It wasn't last year.

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Have to admit I was not expecting to find that kind of average for Wentz when I was looking to compare the 2 guys.

That is shockingly low for a guy with a reputation for taking shots rather than dumping the ball off for a safe completion.

Consider me concerned.

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Yeah, hopefully you are NOT on to something there... :nono:

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1316514]Every Touchdown Wentz threw with the Eagles.

Full link: [url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y7EPPwefPVs[/url]

Or just click watch on YouTube.

[YT]y7EPPwefPVs[/YT][/quote]

Yuck, as a Redskin fan pretty sure I can't stomach watching a bunch of Eagle TDs.

Re: Best Offensive Skill Talent Since When?
 

[quote=davy;1316537][code] Att Comp Yds Avg
Heinicke 571 369 3886 6.8
Wentz 3008 1884 20375 6.8
[/code]


Hmmmm :saywhat:[/quote]

It's Wentz's completion percentage that drives that down. He goes downfield more often, but he has one of the lower completion percentages in the league. Complete fewer gives you more attempts that go for 0 yards and drags the average down. Heinicke was at 65% last year, Wentz at 62%.

If you care to look at the stats look up air yards per target. That will probably show Carson trying to go deeper.

But look at the INT numbers and the TD numbers that's really what you need to know. Taylor might be completing more, but those throws are still ending up short of the sticks more often and still resulting in either more punts or more TO's than Wentz has.

More of Wentz's drives end up in the end zone. That's the ultimate stat for a QB.