Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[QUOTE=SunnySide;1321774]Prior to the 49 yarder to Terry, we went:

Punt
Fumble
End of half
punt
punt
interception
interception

If the safety had hedged over Terry more or Wentz throws an inaccurate ball ... the 49 yarder to Terry doesnt happen and we likely lose

[IMG]https://betterafter50.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/debbie-downer.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]


That is some extreme what if’n there SS. Wentz threw an absolute dime.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=SunnySide;1321774]Prior to the 49 yarder to Terry, we went:

Punt
Fumble
End of half
punt
punt
interception
interception

If the safety had hedged over Terry more or Wentz throws an inaccurate ball ... the 49 yarder to Terry doesnt happen and we likely lose

[IMG]https://betterafter50.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/debbie-downer.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Yeah we're lucky. Terry could have fallen down too. Thank goodness none of that happened.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

I don’t even know what to think about this game. I honestly would not be surprised at any outcome. A blowout going either way or a close game going either way. I think they are all in play here.

You got two teams both thinking, “if we want to compete this year we have to beat this team”.
I still have zero faith in our HC, DC, and OC. None of them have been consistently good for any real stretch since they have been here hence our win loss record during that time.

Again my heart says we win a close one. My brain says we lose a close one.

That being said before the season started our schedule outside of week 2 looked rough. Now it does not. Dallas, GB, Tennessee all looking like possible W’s now.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

Good Q and A's from Detroit and Washington fan sites:

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/9/14/23342777/washington-vs-detroit-week-2-five-questions-with-pride-of-detroit[/url]

[url]https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2022/9/15/23351930/lions-commanders-preview-tj-hockenson-dandre-swift-should-feast-week-2[/url]

One thing both agree on is Detroits RB are going to be a difference maker

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=punch it in;1321781]I don’t even know what to think about this game. I honestly would not be surprised at any outcome. A blowout going either way or a close game going either way. I think they are all in play here.

You got two teams both thinking, “if we want to compete this year we have to beat this team”.
I still have zero faith in our HC, DC, and OC. None of them have been consistently good for any real stretch since they have been here hence our win loss record during that time.

Again my heart says we win a close one. My brain says we lose a close one.

That being said before the season started our schedule outside of week 2 looked rough. Now it does not. Dallas, GB, Tennessee all looking like possible W’s now.[/quote]

Eagles too, they let DET score 35 on them... Also The Lions D is trash, if you watched Hard knocks they Let Goff eat them up in most practices and he's very AVG.

Dallas will be a tough game regardless , their D is insane

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

Of course if our offense can start to dominate then the defence won't on the field so much, and they will have more energy when they are

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1321780]Yeah we're lucky. Terry could have fallen down too. Thank goodness none of that happened.[/quote]

The ground beneath him could have opened up and swallow him.

Or a bird could have collided with the ball and knock it off course.

The Matrix could have glitched and make Terry completely disappear. I'm telling you a lot of things could have happened.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1321794][B]The ground beneath him could have opened up and swallow him.
[/B]
Or a bird could have collided with the ball and knock it off course.

The Matrix could have glitched and make Terry completely disappear. I'm telling you a lot of things could have happened.[/quote]

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Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

I’m curious to see what Jeter the new DT brings to the table and what the 2 clowns (Jackson, McCain) do as far their coverage assignments. Also want to watch Bates (my new hero) blocking when he’s on the field, see who’s ass he kicks this week.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

Jack Del Rio on Jamin Davis: "Was just OK in the game. He practiced better throughout the preseason... He has to play better. He didn't play very well last week. I saw a lot of good things this offseason so it surprised me he didn't play better."

KEIM

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1321800]Jack Del Rio on Jamin Davis: "Was just OK in the game. He practiced better throughout the preseason... He has to play better. He didn't play very well last week. I saw a lot of good things this offseason so it surprised me he didn't play better."

KEIM[/quote]

JDR also said Davis covering Kirk was a bad match up and not something he wants going forward. I didn't see interview but I hope there was a follow up question as to why JDR even entertained it in game 1.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

After week 1, I'm not going to draw too many conclusions other than we're 1-0. This week will provide a little more insight, but we'll have a much better idea what this team is all about after the Cowboys game in week 4.

That said, the offense was pretty impressive against the Jags. They put the league on notice with all the weapons in their arsenal, and a QB who can get the ball to them. I don't see any reason why they can't at least duplicate that performance against Detroit.

Defensively, I am not sure exactly what to expect. I'm not as low on them as a lot of people are, but my optimism is waning after some of the things I saw in week 1. I am going to go out on a limb and predict a much better performance though. I think the D-line will play well again, the secondary will show up, and Holcomb and Davis will play well enough to get it done.

We win the turnover battle and score seven times, including one on D/ST. Defense gives up yards, but only two TDs.

WAS - 41
DET - 23

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1321804]JDR also said Davis covering Kirk was a bad match up and not something he wants going forward. I didn't see interview but I hope there was a follow up question as to why JDR even entertained it in game 1.[/quote]

I don't think JDR entertained putting Davis on Kirk. The opposing OC and QB get paid to create mismatches. Davis isn't the only LB to ever find himself covering a wide receiver. It happens.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1321804]JDR also said Davis covering Kirk was a bad match up and not something he wants going forward. I didn't see interview but I hope there was a follow up question as to why JDR even entertained it in game 1.[/quote]

Seriously, this is no small amount of BS from JDR. Yeah, Davis didn't play that well, but is JDR putting him in a place to succeed? Covering a WR -- LBs aren't built for that. Ever. And that's on you, Jack. He's making me wonder whether a new DC would come in here and help our guys thrive.

I mean, shit -- I don't know jack about football (sorry), but even I know better than to ask a LB to cover a WR. Or have a good man-to-man cover guy like Jackson do nothing but zone. Or leave Landon Collins at safety for far too long when it was clear that WRs were blowing by him. Or make halftime adjustments to anything. I am sure others can easily add to this list.

Bellichick has been successful because he knows his players and finds the way to use their strengths to get to one-on-one matchups that his players consistently win. It is well documented. WTF can't we do a little of that?

Get your head out of your ass, Jack.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=calia;1321811]Seriously, this is no small amount of BS from JDR. Yeah, Davis didn't play that well, but is JDR putting him in a place to succeed? Covering a WR -- LBs aren't built for that. Ever. And that's on you, Jack. He's making me wonder whether a new DC would come in here and help our guys thrive.

I mean, shit -- I don't know jack about football (sorry), but even I know better than to ask a LB to cover a WR. Or have a good man-to-man cover guy like Jackson do nothing but zone. Or leave Landon Collins at safety for far too long when it was clear that WRs were blowing by him. Or make halftime adjustments to anything. I am sure others can easily add to this list.

[B]Bellichick has been successful because he knows his players and finds the way to use their strengths to get to one-on-one matchups that his players consistently win. It is well documented. WTF can't we do a little of that?[/B]

Get your head out of your ass, Jack.[/quote]

We did a lot of that on offense, which is where this typically occurs. I don't think you field a defense thinking "I'm going to create a mismatch here"...Unless you have a guy like Aaron Donald who is a walking mismatch.

Offenses drive this, not defenses. Occasionally you are going to get the wrong player covering a guy, because that is what running an effective offense is all about - finding a mismatch to exploit.

Like I said earlier, Davis isn't the only LB to ever find himself covering a wide receiver. It happens. My guess is you could probably watch all 16 games from this past weekend, and find an example of it in every game.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1321812]We did a lot of that on offense, which is where this typically occurs. I don't think you field a defense thinking "I'm going to create a mismatch here"...Unless you have a guy like Aaron Donald who is a walking mismatch.

Offenses drive this, not defenses. Occasionally you are going to get the wrong player covering a guy, because that is what running an effective offense is all about - finding a mismatch to exploit.

Like I said earlier, Davis isn't the only LB to ever find himself covering a wide receiver. It happens. My guess is you could probably watch all 16 games from this past weekend, and find an example of it in every game.[/quote]

I agree. I have very little faith in JDR, and think this offseason's management of the LB squad is malpractice... But you can't go Dime package on every down, and you can't go man/double everybody on every down, so every now and then you will have a talented WR opposite a LB. Making sure that happens the least possible is a DC's job, but that "least possible" won't be zero. The opposing OC gets paid too.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

We played with 2 LBs 93% of the D snaps.

Davis is going to get mis matched against a RB or WR every now and then. Usually when he is mismatched its an intentional thing done by the O and the O knows it and targets it.

We do the same thing, would love to see mckissic and gibson out there same time bc one of them will have a LB.

Ideally Davis would only have to cover TEs at worst but with 11 or 20 or 21 personnel ... Davis is probably going to have to cover a RB.

LB coverage seems to be the soft under belly of most defenses. Get a mismatch, take your 8-10 yards.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

Lions 6R pick LB Malcolm Rodriguez is the Lions starting LB and the team and fans seem to love him and his physicality.

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Blake Martinez -- we should be hearing something soon Id guess. im sure his agent's phone has had a lot of calls

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1321812]We did a lot of that on offense, which is where this typically occurs. I don't think you field a defense thinking "I'm going to create a mismatch here"...Unless you have a guy like Aaron Donald who is a walking mismatch.

Offenses drive this, not defenses. Occasionally you are going to get the wrong player covering a guy, because that is what running an effective offense is all about - finding a mismatch to exploit.

Like I said earlier, Davis isn't the only LB to ever find himself covering a wide receiver. It happens. My guess is you could probably watch all 16 games from this past weekend, and find an example of it in every game.[/quote]

I don't disagree, but it also doesn't make sense to have individuals on D not play to their strengths or, more accurately, scheme to their strengths. He has to coach to defensive players he has, not the ones he wishes he had. I think that is where JDR falls pretty short of the mark.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=SunnySide;1321816]Lions 6R pick LB Malcolm Rodriguez is the Lions starting LB and the team and fans seem to love him and his physicality.

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Blake Martinez -- we should be hearing something soon Id guess. im sure his agent's phone has had a lot of calls[/quote]

I've been wondering about Martinez. I had also wondered whether someone would sign Flowers, Collins (as Buffalo nickel/LB), and OBJ -- there are a few guys who can still play out there and unsigned for longer than I would have expected.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1321809]I don't think JDR entertained putting Davis on Kirk. The opposing OC and QB get paid to create mismatches. Davis isn't the only LB to ever find himself covering a wide receiver. It happens.[/quote]

Perhaps but having a LB line up at least 3 times in the slot seems excessive. Sounds like difficulty making adjustments but idk.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[QUOTE=calia;1321824]I don't disagree, but it also doesn't make sense to have individuals on D not play to their strengths or, more accurately, scheme to their strengths. He has to coach to defensive players he has, not the ones he wishes he had. I think that is where JDR falls pretty short of the mark.[/QUOTE]

I guess I'm not sure what you want him to do. He has Jamin Davis, Cole Holcomb, David Mayo, Jon Bostic, and Milo Eifler. There's only so much you can do with these guys. Put your DC hat on. How would you scheme to their strengths?

Seriously though, I think the D will be fine and will surprise in the long run. They were much better in week 1 than they were most of last year - especially on 3rd down. If they can build on that, and stop the run (which they really didn't do), it could be fun year.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1321757]Time goes by fast. Already Thursday. Only a few more days [B]until we take command, [/B]lol. I still hate that line so much.[/quote]

That shit is so damn corny.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1321784]Eagles too, they let DET score 35 on them... Also The Lions D is trash, if you watched Hard knocks they Let Goff eat them up in most practices and he's very AVG.

Dallas will be a tough game regardless , their D is insane[/QUOTE]


Was going to include the Birds on my list but didn’t want to get greedy. Lol

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1321794]The ground beneath him could have opened up and swallow him.

Or a bird could have collided with the ball and knock it off course.

The Matrix could have glitched and make Terry completely disappear. I'm telling you a lot of things could have happened.[/QUOTE]


Lol. This post made me chuckle.
I was going to make a list just about insane sports what if’s like missing the putt, bricking that three, whiffing on a bad pitch but I so wish I had gone matrix, sink hole, bird collision.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=SunnySide;1321815]We played with 2 LBs 93% of the D snaps.

Davis is going to get mis matched against a RB or WR every now and then. Usually when he is mismatched its an intentional thing done by the O and the O knows it and targets it.

We do the same thing, would love to see mckissic and gibson out there same time bc one of them will have a LB.

Ideally Davis would only have to cover TEs at worst but with 11 or 20 or 21 personnel ... Davis is probably going to have to cover a RB.

LB coverage seems to be the soft under belly of most defenses. Get a mismatch, take your 8-10 yards.[/quote]

Only 2 linebackers 93% of snaps ..If that is the case then we need to figure out how to get way better players at that position ..

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

"He's got to play better. He didn't play very well last week," Del Rio said Thursday, just moments after calling Davis' performance a "so-so" outing. "I know he expects to play better. He'll be challenged to play better."

"I saw a lot of good things this offseason and it kind of surprised me he didn't play better," Del Rio said, before later adding, "He's worked really hard. I think he prepared to play better than he did in the opener. We expect him to play better."

"Like I said before, just making more plays, going out there, trying to be more consistent, try to fly around and play a lot faster," Davis said.

"When we do get to [that look], we expect him to hold up," Del Rio said on Davis in coverage. "He didn't hold up very well in that situation. He gave up some big completions. [B]So, we need him to be better and we need to do a little bit better job to make sure we keep him out of those situations[/B]."

Davis believes if he continues to "trust his technique" when in coverage, things will start to go his way in the future.

"You just gotta trust your technique at the end of the day," Davis said. "That's one of those things that no matter who you wind up against, you just go out there and do what you got to do, the same thing I've been doing all offseason. So I mean, going forward, it's just, no hiccups, just make more plays."

"Going forward, I know who I am as a player," Davis said. "So [now], just go make plays."

[url]https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/jack-del-rio-expects-jamin-davis-to-play-better-after-so-so-week-1-vs-jaguars/3158361/[/url]

JDR basically said the obvious ... they need to try and limit the times hes 1 on 1 w a WR on in the slot but the times that it does happen, they need him to hold up.

Kam Curl - Im guessing they practiced in TC and planned on having him play in the box/pick up the extra WR etc but with his injury Jamin was the temporary back up plan?

Not ideal but Jamin is our "coverage" LB so hes option B or C, after Curl.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=SunnySide;1321864]"He's got to play better. He didn't play very well last week," Del Rio said Thursday, just moments after calling Davis' performance a "so-so" outing. "I know he expects to play better. He'll be challenged to play better."

"I saw a lot of good things this offseason and it kind of surprised me he didn't play better," Del Rio said, before later adding, "He's worked really hard. I think he prepared to play better than he did in the opener. We expect him to play better."

"Like I said before, just making more plays, going out there, trying to be more consistent, try to fly around and play a lot faster," Davis said.

"When we do get to [that look], we expect him to hold up," Del Rio said on Davis in coverage. "He didn't hold up very well in that situation. He gave up some big completions. [B]So, we need him to be better and we need to do a little bit better job to make sure we keep him out of those situations[/B]."

Davis believes if he continues to "trust his technique" when in coverage, things will start to go his way in the future.

"You just gotta trust your technique at the end of the day," Davis said. "That's one of those things that no matter who you wind up against, you just go out there and do what you got to do, the same thing I've been doing all offseason. So I mean, going forward, it's just, no hiccups, just make more plays."

"Going forward, I know who I am as a player," Davis said. "So [now], just go make plays."

[url]https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/jack-del-rio-expects-jamin-davis-to-play-better-after-so-so-week-1-vs-jaguars/3158361/[/url]

JDR basically said the obvious ... they need to try and limit the times hes 1 on 1 w a WR on in the slot but the times that it does happen, they need him to hold up.

Kam Curl - Im guessing they practiced in TC and planned on having him play in the box/pick up the extra WR etc but with his injury Jamin was the temporary back up plan?

Not ideal but Jamin is our "coverage" LB so hes option B or C, after Curl.[/quote]

I was looking for this in regards to your post about 2 LBs 93% of snaps.

This has the breakdown from last year's [URL="https://twitter.com/JoshTaylorFB/status/1523833198265913347?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1523833198265913347%7Ctwgr%5E30909bc84cc92b41991200fa26251ba09ac0486c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hogshaven.com%2F2022%2F6%2F11%2F23163814%2Fshould-the-commanders-take-a-look-at-lb-travin-howard"]defense[/URL]

I think we will see Curl or Forrest in a "Buffalo nickel" going forward.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=SunnySide;1321864]"He's got to play better. He didn't play very well last week," Del Rio said Thursday, just moments after calling Davis' performance a "so-so" outing. "I know he expects to play better. He'll be challenged to play better."

"I saw a lot of good things this offseason and it kind of surprised me he didn't play better," Del Rio said, before later adding, "He's worked really hard. I think he prepared to play better than he did in the opener. We expect him to play better."

"Like I said before, just making more plays, going out there, trying to be more consistent, try to fly around and play a lot faster," Davis said.

"When we do get to [that look], we expect him to hold up," Del Rio said on Davis in coverage. "He didn't hold up very well in that situation. He gave up some big completions. [B]So, we need him to be better and we need to do a little bit better job to make sure we keep him out of those situations[/B]."

Davis believes if he continues to "trust his technique" when in coverage, things will start to go his way in the future.

"You just gotta trust your technique at the end of the day," Davis said. "That's one of those things that no matter who you wind up against, you just go out there and do what you got to do, the same thing I've been doing all offseason. So I mean, going forward, it's just, no hiccups, just make more plays."

"Going forward, I know who I am as a player," Davis said. "So [now], just go make plays."

[url]https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/jack-del-rio-expects-jamin-davis-to-play-better-after-so-so-week-1-vs-jaguars/3158361/[/url]

JDR basically said the obvious ... they need to try and limit the times hes 1 on 1 w a WR on in the slot but the times that it does happen, they need him to hold up.

Kam Curl - Im guessing they practiced in TC and planned on having him play in the box/pick up the extra WR etc but with his injury Jamin was the temporary back up plan?

Not ideal but Jamin is our "coverage" LB so hes option B or C, after Curl.[/quote]

As I undertsood it from another explanation I heard, may have been Loiue Tee, if the back field is empty the WLB becomes responsible for the slot receiver, so it may be a scheme thing. But regardless, until Davis begins to effectively shut down the receiver he is responsible for the opposing OC is going to keep looking for cheap yards/first downs when he is on the field. They only have to look at last weeks film for 5 minutes to figire this out.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

I'd like to see us roll with a 4-2-5.

Smith-Williams (Chase when he's back)
Payne
Allen
Sweat

Holcomb
Davis

Fuller
Jackson
Forrest
Curl
Juste or McCain

If we have 5 secondary guys on the field, we should be able to reduce Davis or Holcomb having to cover a slot WR.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1321880]I'd like to see us roll with a 4-2-5.

Smith-Williams (Chase when he's back)
Payne
Allen
Sweat

Holcomb
Davis

Fuller
Jackson
Forrest
Curl
Juste or McCain

If we have 5 secondary guys on the field, we should be able to reduce Davis or Holcomb having to cover a slot WR.[/quote]

I like this idea. Forrest hits like a LB and he's faster than our LBs -- we should make best use of that ability. I know it's one game, but it was impressive, and the reports were that he was impressive all through camp. I am hoping that St. Juste can step up -- there were positive reports on him as well, although I don't have the impression that he had a particularly effective game v. Jax.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

Can we play w/ no LB's?

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1321891]Can we play w/ no LB's?[/quote]

The ole 4-0-7 defense!!

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1321880]I'd like to see us roll with a 4-2-5.

Smith-Williams (Chase when he's back)
Payne
Allen
Sweat

Holcomb
Davis

Fuller
Jackson
Forrest
Curl
Juste or McCain

If we have 5 secondary guys on the field, we should be able to reduce Davis or Holcomb having to cover a slot WR.[/quote]

Isn't that what they have mostly run? Maybe not exact same personnel, but 4 on the line, 2 LBs, and 5 DBs?

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1321900]Isn't that what they have mostly run? Maybe not exact same personnel, but 4 on the line, 2 LBs, and 5 DBs?[/quote]

I was watching at a super packed bar so I really didn't pay that close of attention. I thought they were talking about running 5 man fronts.

Hopefully if Forrest can play like that all year we will have more flexibility with the secondary.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

I was asking...not sure. Just trying to determine which 5 players would be on the line... Seems like it's almost always 4.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

The 4-2-5 (Nickel) is our base defense.

The only difference is with Curl out what we saw in the secondary was mainly:
WJ3, Fuller, St Juste, Forrest, McCain.

I don't think we played even one snap in 4-3. Maybe a bit of Dime (4-1-6). But 4-2-5 is our base indeed.

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Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

That's what I was thinking.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

From what I’m hearing there should be a lot of opportunities against their passing defense, I’d say be aggressive throwing the ball.

Re: Pre game Thread - Commanders at Lions Sun 1 pm
 

Wow this is big:

The Detroit Lions have ruled All-Pro center Frank Ragnow out of their Week 2

He played last week.

Also heard a safety and corner most likely out and a starting guard is a true game time decision

But their all pro Center out is bigly