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[quote=MTK;1329871]Allen, Payne, and Sweat are a real problem right now for opposing offenses.[/quote]

If those 3 stay healthy we will make a playoff push

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[quote=ODUsmitty;1329859]So, let's assume this is preseason and you are told that your team will start out 2-4, with wins over lowly Jax and Chicago, and losses to Detroit, Philly, Dallas, and Tennessee. And then a change in QB gives you wins over Green Bay, Indy, Philly, and Houston with a tough winnable loss to the 8-1 Vikings, resulting in av 6-5 record and playoff contention. And even though the QB at the helm was not a first-round draft choice (like the 2-4 QB making $25+MM/year), or any draft choice, for that matter, would you want to move off the current Qb at $4.75MM for TWO years or look for a costly upgrade because the virtue-signaling optics are better. You guys are freaking NEVER happy. You are getting the deal of the century with Heinicke, a COVID QB, but the KAREN in you cannot be happy because it is unconventional and organic, and against "expert analysis".
Enjoy the ride with a kid that plays hard for the right reasons. The defense is awesome, the TE's and receivers are awesome, and the QB knows who butters his bread, and that is #17. If one were to ask McLaurin with whom he wants to play, CW never gave him enough chances. Heinicke maybe too many. But your stud is your stud, and TH does just that. Please keep trying to "upgrade" one of the few QBs in two decades to actually excite the fanbase and achieve some results, but for the KARENS and DARRINS that post here, [B]it just does not look good enough for these fools to impress their elite friends when drinking shitty wine and pontificating about how much better things could be. Go get bent.[/B][/quote]

What an epic rant. I didn't read this originally because it was too long. But after seeing some other replies, I had to check it out.

Very well done.

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/sIzMTGPxIeMAAAAM/well-done.gif[/IMG]

Pinkies up!!

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[quote=punch it in;1329865]Yeah we are winning because of defense and the run game and in spite if our limitations in the passing game. TH is better than Wentz because he helps hide our weak ass pass pro by moving. He doesn’t see the field well at all and has a weak arm.
You can win with defense and a strong run game but it doesn’t mean we don’t need a quarterback going forward.[/quote]

I was watching KC last night and imagine if we found a Mahomes type of QB. We have all these pass catchers but we're a run first team right now. It is what it is but the organization has to find that guy under center. This potentially could be such an explosive offense. Maybe Howell can be that guy in the future.

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[quote=punch it in;1329867]Get bent? Drinking shitty wine? Who are you even yelling at? We have maybe the best d line in football and a great 1-2 punch in the run game. We have real good wr’s, but at some point you need a quarterback who can throw down field and see the field. I have no problem with Taylor as a backup, but if you think he is good enough to make us serious contenders than maybe you need to drink better wine.[/quote]

I think he needs to avoid alcohol altogether, and smoke a joint and chill.

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[quote=ODUsmitty;1329859]So, let's assume this is preseason and you are told that your team will start out 2-4, with wins over lowly Jax and Chicago, and losses to Detroit, Philly, Dallas, and Tennessee. And then a change in QB gives you wins over Green Bay, Indy, Philly, and Houston with a tough winnable loss to the 8-1 Vikings, resulting in av 6-5 record and playoff contention. And even though the QB at the helm was not a first-round draft choice (like the 2-4 QB making $25+MM/year), or any draft choice, for that matter, would you want to move off the current Qb at $4.75MM for TWO years or look for a costly upgrade because the virtue-signaling optics are better. You guys are freaking NEVER happy. You are getting the deal of the century with Heinicke, a COVID QB, but the KAREN in you cannot be happy because it is unconventional and organic, and against "expert analysis".
Enjoy the ride with a kid that plays hard for the right reasons. The defense is awesome, the TE's and receivers are awesome, and the QB knows who butters his bread, and that is #17. If one were to ask McLaurin with whom he wants to play, CW never gave him enough chances. Heinicke maybe too many. But your stud is your stud, and TH does just that. Please keep trying to "upgrade" one of the few QBs in two decades to actually excite the fanbase and achieve some results, but for the KARENS and DARRINS that post here, it just does not look good enough for these fools to impress their elite friends when drinking shitty wine and pontificating about how much better things could be. Go get bent.[/quote]

This is a great post..lol.. But the goal SHOULD be to win a SB. That simply isn't going to happen w/ Taylor. We all love his story and all but he isn't taking the organization to that level. Tops this is a Wild Card type of team and lose in the first round.

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[quote=MTK;1329871]Allen, Payne, and Sweat are a real problem right now for opposing offenses.[/quote]

Even more happy we were able to extend with McLaurin, in case we can't reach a deal with Payne.

We can use the franchise tag on Payne for a year if needed. He is playing too well to just let him walk and hope Mathis can return healthy and get anywhere near replacing that production.

You're right, our d-line is a problem, and we should keep it as such through at least 2023.

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Wentz was bashed WAY More on this board than TH ever has.. In fact most of us all agree that he's a gamer with heart and a good leader. The issue is you can't hide the lack of arm talent with him, Sam Howell could be a better version of TH and if he is why be mad at that? If he's not then draft a QB in 2024

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[quote=skinsfan69;1329886]This is a great post..lol.. But the goal SHOULD be to win a SB. That simply isn't going to happen w/ Taylor. We all love his story and all but he isn't taking the organization to that level. Tops this is a Wild Card type of team and lose in the first round.[/quote]

I found a picture of some of us hanging out after wins discussing replacing Heinicke.

[IMG]https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1045993746/photo/friends-celebrating-at-party-on-rooftop.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=kXPJV6txNozNf1wBZ6DUauEaDKgpNUcGWt919P4uJFg=[/IMG]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1329883]I was watching KC last night and imagine if we found a Mahomes type of QB. We have all these pass catchers but we're a run first team right now. It is what it is but the organization has to find that guy under center. This potentially could be such an explosive offense. Maybe Howell can be that guy in the future.[/quote]

I watched Howell all 3 years at UNC, every game...he will not be Mahomes...but he could be a Josh Allen type QB, but he's not as big. Good arm and tough runner...it's his decision making that will make or break him. Doesn't seem we will have a top 10-15 pick in the draft, so I say we roll with Howell and TH next season (hopefully through the new owner transition), play Howell and see what he has...and if not, trade up in the next draft to get UNC's current QB Drake Maye...because that kid has IT!

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The last time the defense looked this good was 04/05. I haven't seen a suffocating performance like that in at least a decade.

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Was William Jackson just the worst player in the NFL? He stops playing and the defense starts crushing it.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1329892]Was William Jackson just the worst player in the NFL? He stops playing and the defense starts crushing it.[/quote]

Not necessarily, he was pretty good when he was with Bengals. It's just that he was a bad fit for our defense system.

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[quote=mooby;1329891]The last time the defense looked this good was 04/05. I haven't seen a suffocating performance like that in at least a decade.[/quote]

The DL is great but the biggest surprise has been Jamin Davis. He's really improved

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1329892]Was William Jackson just the worst player in the NFL? He stops playing and the defense starts crushing it.[/quote]

I had been crying to get rid of since last year, that fucker cost us some games. It was a no brainer, same goes for Wentz. Waste of $$$

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[quote=MTK;1329871]Allen, Payne, and Sweat are a real problem right now for opposing offenses.[/quote]

Let’s not forget the back ups, Toohill, Smith-Williams, Obada, the dumb white Jumpy Geathers (he’s been a great replacement for Matt I. and will make an impact).

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1329895]I had been crying to get rid of since last year, that fucker cost us some games. It was a no brainer, same goes for Wentz. Waste of $$$[/quote]

Wentz is yet another example of Snyder's meddling. I can't believe after all of the QB blunders he's had his hands on, he never learns.

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PFF's highest graded Commanders from yesterday's win:

- Jonathan Allen: 90.2
- Brian Robinson: 86.0
- Montez Sweat: 84.0
- Kendall Fuller: 82.8
- Kamren Curl: 82.0

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[quote=ODUsmitty;1329859]So, let's assume this is preseason and you are told that your team will start out 2-4, with wins over lowly Jax and Chicago, and losses to Detroit, Philly, Dallas, and Tennessee. And then a change in QB gives you wins over Green Bay, Indy, Philly, and Houston with a tough winnable loss to the 8-1 Vikings, resulting in av 6-5 record and playoff contention. And even though the QB at the helm was not a first-round draft choice (like the 2-4 QB making $25+MM/year), or any draft choice, for that matter, would you want to move off the current Qb at $4.75MM for TWO years or look for a costly upgrade because the virtue-signaling optics are better. You guys are freaking NEVER happy. You are getting the deal of the century with Heinicke, a COVID QB, but the KAREN in you cannot be happy because it is unconventional and organic, and against "expert analysis".
Enjoy the ride with a kid that plays hard for the right reasons. The defense is awesome, the TE's and receivers are awesome, and the QB knows who butters his bread, and that is #17. If one were to ask McLaurin with whom he wants to play, CW never gave him enough chances. Heinicke maybe too many. But your stud is your stud, and TH does just that. Please keep trying to "upgrade" one of the few QBs in two decades to actually excite the fanbase and achieve some results, but for the KARENS and DARRINS that post here, [B]it just does not look good enough for these fools to impress their elite friends when drinking shitty wine and pontificating[/B] about how much better things could be. Go get bent.[/quote]

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/FUNuA2x2pB8AAAAd/beer-drinking.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1329899]PFF's highest graded Commanders from yesterday's win:

- Jonathan Allen: 90.2
- Brian Robinson: 86.0
- Montez Sweat: 84.0
- Kendall Fuller: 82.8
- Kamren Curl: 82.0[/quote]


Prior to this weekend PFF had Curl and Forrest rated as the No 1 and 2 safeties in thd league this year. Whether PFF ratings mean anything is another question

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1329903]Prior to this weekend PFF had Curl and Forrest rated as the No 1 and 2 safeties in thd league this year. Whether PFF ratings mean anything is another question[/quote]

Every NFL team uses the data so it has to mean something to them at least

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Curl is another guy that needs to be extended. He should receive a pretty fat contract. What a great find by the team.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1329903]Prior to this weekend PFF had Curl and Forrest rated as the No 1 and 2 safeties in thd league this year. Whether PFF ratings mean anything is another question[/quote]

Slight side note, I'm excited at having Curl and Forrest as our safety tandem for the next couple of years. I believe Kam's contract is up, so I hope the team makes it a priority to keep him.

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21 rushing yds against on 16 carries ... our team run D ranking is gonna jump a few spots up this week

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[quote=Ruhskins;1329906]Slight side note, I'm excited at having Curl and Forrest as our safety tandem for the next couple of years. I believe Kam's contract is up, so I hope the team makes it a priority to keep him.[/quote]

He has one more year on his rookie deal but is eligible for a new contract in the off season. Hopefully they deal with that as soon as possible

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Forrest and Davis have been awesome developments this year.

Beginning of the season the defense looked like the devil's taint.

Week 12, it looks like we have quite a few damn good football players.

Very impressive turnaround by the coaches and players.

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This defense is legit, far better than we even saw in 2020.

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[quote=MTK;1329917]This defense is legit, far better than we even saw in 2020.[/quote]

The run d is great and they can also rush the passer.. We lack that explosive rusher like Dallas has but we make up for it with the interior DL

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1329893]Not necessarily, he was pretty good when he was with Bengals. It's just that he was a bad fit for our defense system.[/QUOTE]


He was a man to man corner with Cincy. We tried to fit him in our zone heavy scheme. Poorly thought out, but at least we cut our losses.

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The final 6 games

V ATLANTA
@ NYG
V NYG
@ SF
V BROWNS
V DALLAS

If we limit the TO's and play this way on defense I could see 5-1 or 4-2

That gets you to 10 wins and most likely a WC spot

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1329937]The final 6 games

V ATLANTA
@ NYG
V NYG
@ SF
V BROWNS
V DALLAS

If we limit the TO's and play this way on defense I could see 5-1 or 4-2

That gets you to 10 wins and most likely a WC spot[/quote]

I definitely think 10 wins is the magic number, very doable if they keep up this current play.

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Got to sweep the Giants. Dallas will be tough. And SF is playing a lot better these days.

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Yup those Giant games are huge but let’s just concentrate on the Falcons. Getting full rest. Hopefully finally getting Chase back. Maybe Holcomb?
Home game. It is a must win.
4 home games is huge if the crowd shows up in the right colors.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1329817]Another great effort by defense,what an amazing turnaround they have done.Anemic effort on offense,thank God for that interception to get us going.For a defense that can’t stop the run they sure did a good job on us.[B]Vanilla Gorilla with another dumb ass play,[/B] if I was Rivera I would fine him for being such a dumbass[/quote]

That was dumb indeed, but he's a rookie, and he was making an awesome play, TFL with an Oline in front of him, I agree he has to know this is going to get flagged (IMO he was lucky not to get ejected), but with the position the RB was in, it kinda was a "natural" to bring him down. Still stupid. But still a very talented rookie who keeps making plays. [I]Very excited for his future with us!
[/I]

Awesome win, love this style of play. There is no debate about TH, everybody knows he's not a long term starter, every body loves the guy, and every body has to love the whole locker room seems to love him and play harder when he's on the field.

-[I]Darrick Forrest[/I] is developing into a very good safety.

-[I]McCain[/I] makes play but [I][U]keeps taking stupid angles.[/U][/I]

-[I]Bostic [/I]is a good tackler but he is [I]getting slower every minute.[/I] The way he ran after the WR on that first big play by Houston was comical.

-Our [I]offense[/I] with a decent NFL QB would be legit dangerous.

-Question, any word on the [I]timing of Cosmi getting the starting job back[/I] during the game? He had some snaps last week too, but he got in during the first half and never got out again. Was it following a [I]Cornelius Lucas[/I] mistake ?

Love the win. Yes against a baaad team, but to limit them to 3 points in the first 3 quarters was what [I]good teams[/I] do: they legitimately [I]dominate bad teams[/I]. They keep playing like that and even I might end up liking that stupid name. TAKE COMMAND !

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I hope the Eagles go 16-1. So forever we fucked up their perfect regular season.

We're not catching them anyways. Might as well have them help us out along the way while being the team that beat them.

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Oh, side note, credit to those of you who've been raving about [I]John Bates' blocking[/I] for weeks. If I'm being honest, without paying extra attention to him, I was like "yeah he's doing the job, and it's been a while since we had a decent blocking TE, but the "top blocking TE in the league" talk is over the top,[I] it's not like he's mauling people Gronk or Georges Kittle style[/I]"...

But for the first time this week I saw him legitimately maul people. He's not the most physical TE in the league, but he's consistently blocking and he has the ability to pancake someone every now and then.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1329992]Oh, side note, credit to those of you who've been raving about [I]John Bates' blocking[/I] for weeks. If I'm being honest, without paying extra attention to him, I was like "yeah he's doing the job, and it's been a while since we had a decent blocking TE, but the "top blocking TE in the league" talk is over the top,[I] it's not like he's mauling people Gronk or Georges Kittle style[/I]"...

But for the first time this week I saw him legitimately maul people. He's not the most physical TE in the league, but he's consistently blocking and he has the ability to pancake someone every now and then.[/quote]

Yep, Bates is a mauler!! Love our TE group.

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[url]https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1595087915570368513?s=20&t=KrJYhFNt1v2jjUqbea8LiA[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1330030][url]https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1595087915570368513?s=20&t=KrJYhFNt1v2jjUqbea8LiA[/url][/quote]

Ehhhh

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[quote=Chico23231;1330031]Ehhhh[/quote]

Yeah I don't see a SB team lol but it's nice to be in the convo

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Twitter is infested w/ so many idiots. I can't take that place.