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skinsfaninok 12-05-2022 09:44 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1331388]Yesterday ending felt like you finally got a chance with your dream chick and you last 5 seconds.[/quote]

Or really any chick LOLOL

punch it in 12-05-2022 09:48 AM

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1331375]Most of you brother posters are acting like whiney bitches over the tie. The tie at their place was fine. Now we just need kick their butts at our place in two weeks.

Also, why are some of you so hung up on our weaknesses? That's practically the theme of this entire thread.

Let's see if I can guess one of those problem areas after reading about them approximately ten thousand times on this site:

TH is not a true starting QB in the NFL. He has a weak arm. Is that right? I agree. So what? There is no better option for us right now. We can worry about the starting QB position going forward in the offseason.

Fortunately, Taylor is also one of the better backup QB's in the NFL. He is super smart, has above average athletic ability, is positively relentless and gutsy, gets better at managing the game each week, inspires his teammates, and maximizes all of his skills and character traits in game after game. That is all we have a right to ask from him.

As for our other weaknesses, or challenges, the coaches and FO are doing the best they can to keep us competitive. I'm satisfied about where we are right now and I'll be thrilled if we make the playoffs.[/QUOTE]


Don’t think anyone is really bothered by the tie. It is going to come down, most likely, to us and them for the last spot depending on what Seattle does.
Yes saying TH isn’t a starter is overkill, but every time I hear some talking head mention his W-L record I feel the need to mention his noodle arm lol.

My main gripe is with Turner. He doesn’t put noodle arm in the best spots. Taylor has speed and legs and needs to RPO and for some inexplicable reason he doesn’t- plus I don’t see Turner going anywhere so I think that is a legitimate whiney thing to talk about. I am fine with the tie though, we beat then in two weeks and we are back in the drivers seat. Jimmy G going down helps us in that SF game too.

MTK 12-05-2022 10:21 AM

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TH doesn't seem to be comfortable with RPO, either he doesn't read it well or it's just not his game. Plus the dude is tiny, do we really need him exposing himself in the open field? I don't really get the criticism of TH or of Turner for yesterday. We killed ourselves with penalties more than anything.

Chico23231 12-05-2022 10:25 AM

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3-14 on 3rd down. Not good enough versus an avg, below avg giants defense

SunnySide 12-05-2022 10:28 AM

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All 3 units played at a C level imo

Giants front 7 > injured O line

Defense was frustrating at times but held just enough to ekk a tie. Held giants to 3 n outs on Giants last 4 possession to end 2nd half. Allowed 9 yards, -5, -2, 0 yards on last 4 giant drives. So JDR did adjust

Penalties were killers and perhaps the razors edge in a tie vs a win. Penalty on Thomas was BS and the flag for PI w terry shouldnt have been picked up. But I dont think they called any PI so theres solace in that.

Giants depleted secondary ... we did attack it. Terry 8 catches on 12 targets. Samuel 6/7, Dotson 5/9. Heinike 27/41

punch it in 12-05-2022 10:31 AM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1331392]TH doesn't seem to be comfortable with RPO, either he doesn't read it well or it's just not his game. Plus the dude is tiny, do we really need him exposing himself in the open field? I don't really get the criticism of TH or of Turner for yesterday. We killed ourselves with penalties more than anything.[/QUOTE]


We were totally undisciplined but I hated our playcall down near the redzone, and like Chico said our third down conversion rate should have been better against the Giants.

Taylor needs to use his speed and run sometimes instead of chucking it. He can slide but get those 7 yards when you have open field. Dont be like RG-3. Just get what you can get and slide. He sailed a few balls and missed a few balls again. Idk I think criticism of those two is pretty fair. Anyway we got two weeks to gameplan for this same team and get healthy before we get them at home with a lot on the line. Fly Eagles Fly. [emoji2961] yuck hurts to say that.

SunnySide 12-05-2022 10:32 AM

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Larsen crumbled to the ground while pass-blocking. He got carted off the field after being attended to by trainers.*

After the Commanders’ 20-20 tie with the Giants, Larsen was seen on crutches while wearing a brace over his leg, according to ESPN’s John Keim.

Later that evening, Larsen shared a tweet that appeared to sum up his thoughts about his injury.

#saferfields
— Tyler Larsen (@TylerLarsen58) December 5, 2022

Players around the NFL have recently shared their concerns about the FieldTurf used in multiple stadiums around the league.

MetLife Stadium, the home of the Giants, has been considered one of the more dangerous fields, especially after ACL injuries to Giants wide receivers Wan’dale Robinson and Sterling Shepard this season.

[url]https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/commanders_center_tyler_larsen_calls_for_safer_fields_after_injury/s1_16457_38205178[/url]

Looking for a Larsen update ... if hes out for season, hopefully Cosmi can come back and play RG, Schweitzer at C

MTK 12-05-2022 12:20 PM

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@BenStandig

Commanders LB Cole Holcomb underwent season-ending foot surgery and is out for the season. Holcomb's agent, @AgentChristinaP, confirmed @TomPelissero's report.

The defensive mainstay -- and a 2023 free agent -- last played on 10/23. Interesting offseason ahead.

PorkSkins 12-05-2022 01:32 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1331366][url]https://twitter.com/i/status/1599479338084470784[/url]

If this was JJ , Lamb , ETC that's a PI all day. Terry gets no love[/quote]

If the officials didn't initially throw the flag, although it would've been a crappy missed call, I'd slightly understand. The fact they did indeed throw a flag, but decided to pick it up was egregiously bad and wrong.

A high probability we get points there, and the difference between a tie and a win.

PorkSkins 12-05-2022 01:39 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331380]Giants should have the same record as us after Sunday, so yeah, definitely need to win that next game against them for the tiebreaker if we finish w/ same record.

Seahawks get the Panthers at home this week, which is likely a W. But their next 3 are the 9ers, Chiefs, Jets. Hopefully they lose 2 out of 3 of those.[/quote]

I sense the Panthers will put up a fight, and I could potentially see that game going down to the wire for Seattle.

PorkSkins 12-05-2022 01:42 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1331381]It should be 15 yards like in college.[/quote]

I've been saying the same thing for a few years re: Defensive PI calls in the NFL.

GridIron26 12-05-2022 01:47 PM

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[quote=MTK;1331418]@BenStandig

Commanders LB Cole Holcomb underwent season-ending foot surgery and is out for the season. Holcomb's agent, @AgentChristinaP, confirmed @TomPelissero's report.

The defensive mainstay -- and a 2023 free agent -- last played on 10/23. Interesting offseason ahead.[/quote]

I would be surprised if we don't resign him.

calia 12-05-2022 02:07 PM

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Well, well, well -- our rematch with the Giants just got flexed to Sunday night. I don't remember the last time that a game was flexed in increase viewership of our squad. And that means I can now see it out here in California!

calia 12-05-2022 02:09 PM

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[quote=GridIron26;1331426]I would be surprised if we don't resign him.[/quote]

Me too, although we still need more help at that position. Even showing some creativity in that position, we really can't just have Davis and Holcomb, as this year's struggles in the middle after Holcomb went out have proved.

PorkSkins 12-05-2022 02:34 PM

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[quote=calia;1331430]Well, well, well -- our rematch with the Giants just got flexed to Sunday night. I don't remember the last time that a game was flexed in increase viewership of our squad. And that means I can now see it out here in California![/quote]

Why aren't you able to regularly view games? Incarcerated? I'm teasing, lol.

But seriously, how are you're not able to see games? I don't nor won't count anyone's dollars, but there are numerous inexpensive ways to view games nowadays.

skinsfaninok 12-05-2022 02:56 PM

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[url]https://twitter.com/i/status/1599497901570682880[/url]

WOW and this was a critical play in the game

MTK 12-05-2022 02:59 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1331436][url]https://twitter.com/i/status/1599497901570682880[/url]

WOW and this was a critical play in the game[/quote]

We definitely got the short end of the stick when it came to calls in this game. It happens, still sucks though.

Chico23231 12-05-2022 03:03 PM

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GM Ron failure to bring in CB and LB in the offseason maybe cost this team a win yesterday.

Ruhskins 12-05-2022 03:05 PM

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[quote=MTK;1331438]We definitely got the short end of the stick when it came to calls in this game. It happens, still sucks though.[/quote]

If a helmet comes off a player, that should be an automatic review on what happened by the refs. It could happen from New York, similar to what they do with potential concussions. You can't tell me that a helmet coming off it is not a health/safety issue.

Ruhskins 12-05-2022 03:07 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1331439]GM Ron failure to bring in CB and LB in the offseason maybe cost this team a win yesterday.[/quote]

These are injuries, you can't have starting caliber players at all levels. We've had several injuries in the secondary. You can only be so prepared for injuries.

Aside from crappy referees, play calling is the biggest issue with this team, especially moving away from the run at key moments.

SunnySide 12-05-2022 03:15 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1331436][url]https://twitter.com/i/status/1599497901570682880[/url]

WOW and this was a critical play in the game[/quote]

Wow .. we all saw the helmet off and its usually hands to face but TV crew didnt give it a second of time and never showed replay

punch it in 12-05-2022 05:36 PM

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[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1331433]Why aren't you able to regularly view games? Incarcerated? I'm teasing, lol.

But seriously, how are you're not able to see games? I don't nor won't count anyone's dollars, but there are numerous inexpensive ways to view games nowadays.[/QUOTE]


What are the options? Ive tried exploring some but always ran into a snag. Not paying for Sunday ticket because I get two Giants, two Eagles, and usually about 5 or 6 others including primetime. It isn’t worth the price for the extra 7-8 games.

SFREDSKIN 12-05-2022 05:54 PM

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Bummer!!


@BenStandig
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Commanders C Tyler Larsen suffered a dislocated kneecap in Sunday’s game, according to a person close to the situation. Next steps TBD, but this could be a season-ending injury for 2nd consecutive year (Achilles).

Larsen helped stabilize OL since entering the lineup this year.

PorkSkins 12-05-2022 06:32 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1331458]What are the options? Ive tried exploring some but always ran into a snag. Not paying for Sunday ticket because I get two Giants, two Eagles, and usually about 5 or 6 others including primetime. It isn’t worth the price for the extra 7-8 games.[/quote]

I'll just say fire stick. There are ways to view games once you purchase one. I also know a couple folks who still watches games on streaming sites per their computer or phone.

calia 12-05-2022 07:01 PM

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The more I think about it, the more frustrating it is we didn’t win. We had more yards passing, more yards rushing, had 12+ min advantage in time of possession, and the same number of turnovers. Dammit. 8-5 would be so great right now. Plus, my in-laws are Giants fans. So unsatisfying.


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SFREDSKIN 12-05-2022 09:02 PM

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This sums up the officiating:

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/officiating-horrendous-commanders-giants-week-100132207.html[/url]

punch it in 12-05-2022 09:15 PM

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[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1331462]I'll just say fire stick. There are ways to view games once you purchase one. I also know a couple folks who still watches games on streaming sites per their computer or phone.[/QUOTE]


Yeah ive opted out of watching on the phone because it is just meh but maybe ill look into the firestick. Thanks

skinsfaninok 12-05-2022 09:38 PM

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[URL="https://twitter.com/i/status/1599953911896748032"]https://twitter.com/i/status/1599953911896748032[/URL]

This is the best throw of his career and maybe the best we've seen in a long time in WSH

skinsfan69 12-05-2022 10:37 PM

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I don't think anyone here has never like a play caller. I remember people whining about Kyle. We'd kill to have him back.. 🤣

SFREDSKIN 12-05-2022 10:51 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1331473]I don't think anyone here has never like a play caller. I remember people whining about Kyle. We'd kill to have him back.. 🤣[/quote]

I liked McVay and O’Connell, fuck Kyle arrogant prick!!

That Guy 12-05-2022 11:01 PM

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So guys... did we win yet?

PorkSkins 12-05-2022 11:19 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1331469]Yeah ive opted out of watching on the phone because it is just meh but maybe ill look into the firestick. Thanks[/quote]

Invest in one (fire stick). I think you'll enjoy it.

Giantone 12-06-2022 04:37 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1331467]This sums up the officiating:

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/officiating-horrendous-commanders-giants-week-100132207.html[/url][/quote]

LOL, you do know that is an article from a Washington Commanders site reprinted on yahoo. Giants fans feel they were screwed by the Refs the same way.

punch it in 12-06-2022 08:54 AM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1331484]LOL, you do know that is an article from a Washington Commanders site reprinted on yahoo. Giants fans feel they were screwed by the Refs the same way.[/QUOTE]


Yeah i hear that on the radio here, but come on G-1. I never ever bitch about the refs. This game we definitely got the short end of the stick. In the Eagles game they did. So im not one of the conspiracy theorists about the NFL having it in for us. There was a bad call or two against you guys. There were several against us.

sdskinsfan2001 12-06-2022 09:06 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1331488]Yeah i hear that on the radio here, but come on G-1. I never ever bitch about the refs. This game we definitely got the short end of the stick. In the Eagles game they did. So im not one of the conspiracy theorists about the NFL having it in for us. There was a bad call or two against you guys. There were several against us.[/quote]

Any Giants fan that thinks they were the team that got absolutely jobbed that game is delusional. Or just an outright liar. Those are the 2 choices.

SunnySide 12-06-2022 09:56 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331490]Any Giants fan that thinks they were the team that got absolutely jobbed that game is delusional. Or just an outright liar. Those are the 2 choices.[/quote]

On that last second FG in OT ... it looked our guy on the far right of our line was in the neutral zone. I havent seen a post game screen shot to verify.

Refs missed a few calls for each team imo

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Jon Allen on Junkies .. apparently he played all but 1 snap (not ideal) but said he was able to bc they had a lot of 3 n outs. Hes staying home over the break.

Giantone 12-06-2022 10:02 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331490]Any Giants fan that thinks they were the team that got absolutely jobbed that game is delusional. Or just an outright liar. Those are the 2 choices.[/quote]

[url]https://twitter.com/i/status/1599521683341160448[/url]

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjL_zkPXkAEbp4h?format=jpg&name=360x360[/IMG]


[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjL_zkRWQAAkoTG?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

Goes both ways

Giantone 12-06-2022 10:03 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331490]Any Giants fan that thinks they were the team that got absolutely jobbed that game is delusional. Or just an outright liar. Those are the 2 choices.[/quote]

LOL, grow up.

Giantone 12-06-2022 10:05 AM

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[quote=SunnySide;1331492]On that last second FG in OT ... it looked our guy on the far right of our line was in the neutral zone. I havent seen a post game screen shot to verify.

Refs missed a few calls for each team imo

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Jon Allen on Junkies .. apparently he played all but 1 snap (not ideal) but said he was able to bc they had a lot of 3 n outs. Hes staying home over the break.[/quote]

That is all I'm saying not arguing it at all but it stunk on both sides of the ball.

mredskins 12-06-2022 10:16 AM

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My buddy is a Steelers fan so he is neutral to our game last Sunday. we watched at a bar, he was like every time i turn to watch your game there is a fucking flag its unwatchable.

that one main ref was just flag happy all day.


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