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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1342027]I am sure there would be fans that complain. I don't see why it matters, every NFCE team has 9 away games, you have to play them at some point so whether frontloaded or backloaded doesn't matter. The adage is the same split on the road and take care of business at home and you're in the playoffs.

The tone of the article is hilarious though.

Author: forcing one of the NFL’s stalwart franchises — a team coming off a playoff berth with the reigning Coach of the Year on the sideline — to go on the road for seven of the first 10 games is ridiculous.

What he means: I would not be complaining if this was done to a team like the Houston Texans that are not a part of NFL royalty.

Author: New York is also tied for the most short-rest games out of any team in the NFL, with four

[B][B]What he means: I am complaining about my franchise[/B][/B] being given prime time games due to their success and performance but rest assured I'd bitch if there were only three prime time games too.[/quote]



If you hit the link and read the article he is talking about the NFL in general and mentions 8 different teams. The Giants are not "his team".

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Fuck John Mara. I wish the Giants were scheduled for 17 straight Thursday night away games with no bye week.

I do like Kate Mara though. She's a smokeshow.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1342037]Fuck John Mara. I wish the Giants were scheduled for 17 straight Thursday night away games with no bye week.

I do like Kate Mara though. She's a smokeshow.[/quote]

+1 on all Mara related points. The best way to screw the Giants would be alternating Sunday/Thursday games though. If they played every Thursday they'd get used to having a week in between games.

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[quote=mooby;1342039]+1 on all Mara related points. The best way to screw the Giants would be alternating Sunday/Thursday games though. If they played every Thursday they'd get used to having a week in between games.[/quote]

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[quote=Giantone;1342034]If you hit the link and read the article he is talking about the NFL in general and mentions 8 different teams. The Giants are not "his team".[/quote]

I read the article. I don't know if they are his team he is just complaining for complaing's sake is all.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1342044]I read the article. I don't know if they are his team he is just [B]complaining for complaing's sake is all[/B].[/quote]

Which is why I assumed this person was a Giants fan

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[quote=mooby;1342039]+1 on all Mara related points. The best way to screw the Giants would be alternating Sunday/Thursday games though. If they played every Thursday they'd get used to having a week in between games.[/quote]

I feel the love!

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[quote=Giantone;1342050]I feel the love![/quote]

Don't take it personally, I like you but I loathe Mara and the Giants ever since that bullshit "spirit of the salary cap" penalty in 2011.

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[quote=mooby;1342055]Don't take it personally, I like you but I loathe Mara and the Giants ever since that bullshit "spirit of the salary cap" penalty in 2011.[/quote]

I get it all good. Let me ask you a question , knowing what you know now about Snyder and his management team does that change your mind that maybe they did do something wrong, just a question ,nothing more.

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[quote=Giantone;1342056]I get it. Let me ask you a question , knowing what you know now about Snyder and his management team does that change your mind that maybe they did do something wrong, just a question ,nothing more.[/quote]

no . . . it was an uncapped year . . . spirt of the salary cap means nothing if there is no salary cap . . . was bullshit AND collusion.

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[quote=Giantone;1342056]I get it all good. Let me ask you a question , knowing what you know now about Snyder and his management team does that change your mind that maybe they did do something wrong, just a question ,nothing more.[/quote]

If I remember correctly, the team was penalized for basically not colluding with the rest of the owners during that cap less year. I also believe the Saints were penalized for doing something similar, although to a lesser degree.

I think the team did what they had to do to get out of the hole they were in due to bad contracts and signings. But from what I remember, the penalties were from the other owners basically saying "you should've done what we were not supposed to be doing" if that makes sense.

I personally don't see this much as a Snyder mismanagement, but perhaps more as something that had to be done due to his mismanagement.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1342058]If I remember correctly, the team was penalized for basically not colluding with the rest of the owners during that cap less year. I also believe the Saints were penalized for doing something similar, although to a lesser degree.

I think the team did what they had to do to get out of the hole they were in due to bad contracts and signings. But from what I remember, the penalties were from the other owners basically saying "you should've done what we were not supposed to be doing" if that makes sense.

I personally don't see this much as a Snyder mismanagement, but perhaps more as something that had to be done due to his mismanagement.[/quote]

As far as I can remember there four teams , Washington, Cowboy, Saints and Raiders(I think) that got punished maybe a few others not sure. If there are 32 business's an all do the same thing if they all agree to conduct business a certain way then it should be done that way. I can see the "collusion aspect" but had every team gone back on their word then they wouldn't had been any penalties. JMO but to me the problem was the Hansworth contract.

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[quote=Giantone;1342056]I get it all good. Let me ask you a question , knowing what you know now about Snyder and his management team does that change your mind that maybe they did do something wrong, just a question ,nothing more.[/quote]

Snyder has a laundry list of horrible acts to sift through and call him on - but violating the "spirit" of the salary cap is not one of them. There either is or is not a cap, and IIRC there were many teams that acted in a similar manner that offseason but only the Cowboys and Redskins were punished. So Mara can go fuck himself.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1342057]no . . . it was an uncapped year . . . spirt of the salary cap means nothing if there is no salary cap . . . was bullshit AND collusion.[/quote]

Agreed.

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[quote=mooby;1342061]Snyder has a laundry list of horrible acts to sift through and call him on - but violating the "spirit" of the salary cap is not one of them. There either is or is not a cap, and IIRC there were many teams that acted in a similar manner that offseason but only the Cowboys and Redskins were punished. [B]So Mara can go fuck himself.[/B][/quote]

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[quote=Giantone;1342059]As far as I can remember there four teams , Washington, Cowboy, Saints and Raiders(I think) that got punished maybe a few others not sure. If there are 32 business's an all do the same thing if they all agree to conduct business a certain way then it should be done that way. I can see the "collusion aspect" but had every team gone back on their word then they wouldn't had been any penalties. JMO but to me the problem was the Hansworth contract.[/quote]

They agreed publicly and legally, no salary cap. So, no salary cap. People that actually took that to mean there was no cap got punished for not following rules that did not actually exist, because, if they did, it would be illegal (which also means they wouldn't need to be followed).

If the owners wanted a salary cap, they should have gotten the thing done.

not bitter or holding a grudge though. /s

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1342057]no . . . it was an uncapped year . . . spirt of the salary cap means nothing if there is no salary cap . . . was bullshit AND collusion.[/quote]

This all day.

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[quote=mooby;1342061]Snyder has a laundry list of horrible acts to sift through and call him on - but violating the "spirit" of the salary cap is not one of them. There either is or is not a cap, and IIRC there were many teams that acted in a similar manner that offseason but only the Cowboys and Redskins were punished. So Mara can go fuck himself.[/quote]

No , other teams were penalized also , just no one abused the agreement in that manor.

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[quote=Chico23231;1342049]Which is why I assumed this person was a Giants fan[/quote]

My favorite was his gripe about the Seahawks. They have to travel the furthest out of every NFL franchise. Wait the most isolated team in the NFL has the furthest to travel? No way. I don't believe it.

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[quote=Giantone;1342078]No , other teams were penalized also , just no one abused [B]the agreement [/B]in that manor.[/quote]

“The agreement”

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[quote=Giantone;1342024]I'm just thankful this didn't happen to the Commanders.

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/12/nfl-schedule-2023-teams-screwed-giants-jets-seahawks[/url]


And it’s actually even worse than that, says Conor Orr of Sports Illustrated.

This schedule is borderline criminal While the entire theme of this year’s ordering of games was “naked money grab,” forcing one of the NFL’s stalwart franchises — a team coming off a playoff berth with the reigning Coach of the Year on the sideline — to go on the road for seven of the first 10 games is ridiculous. New York is also tied for the most short-rest games out of any team in the NFL, with four according to ESPN analytics, which also noted that the Giants are tied for the most short-rest road games out of any team. I don’t count a single two-game stretch where I’d deem both games obviously winnable, and they are tied for fourth-toughest in strength of schedule.

While I can predict that coaches like Brian Daboll and DC Wink Martindale, who have been through the ringer, can use this as a collective battle cry, this is the kind of legitimate screw-job that alters the course of a promising season.

Closing the year with the Eagles twice in three weeks, including once on Christmas, is a middle finger at best. What on Earth did the Giants do to deserve this?[/quote]

WE would have been in the playoffs last year except we were mugged by the referees in both Giants games. But what can you expect when the guy who made the Mara family fortune did so as a numbers runner in New York. (M*f*a?) (See Wikipedia and follow the family line back.)

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7 of the first 10? Holy shit

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[quote=mike340;1342083]WE would have been in the playoffs last year except we were mugged by the referees in both Giants games. But what can you expect when the guy who made the Mara family fortune did so as a numbers runner in New York. (M*f*a?) (See Wikipedia and follow the family line back.)[/quote]

That is actually a pretty cool story, to add did you know Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger?

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He should clone himself... so he can go fuck himself.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1342087]He should clone himself... so he can go fuck himself.[/QUOTE]


Poetic and true as fuck.

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I feel the love!!!!!

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1342090]I feel the love!!!!![/QUOTE]


You do not have to love your owner to love your team. Take it from us. [emoji847]

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I look at this yr as a transition yr.. New owners coming in, prob a whole new front office in 2024 with a new HC.

If we win 8 games I'd be surprised

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[quote=punch it in;1342117]You do not have to love your owner to love your team. Take it from us. [emoji847][/quote]

I know, I will say the Ownership structure of the Giants is different then your team so I understand your pain. Mara represents and reports to 11 who own 50% , Tisch owns the other 50%

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I hope we play the[Cowgurls] every Thanksgiving, and beat dat butt!

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Only 8 teams voted against this, why, it's fucking stupid!

[B]NFL owners approve ‘Thursday Night Football’ flex scheduling; Teams to get 28 days notice[/B]

[url]https://theathletic.com/4542428/2023/05/22/nfl-flex-scheduling-thursday-night-football/[/url]


What they’re saying
Asked Monday what their message is to fans trying to plan to attend late-season games, the NFL’s chief operating officer of NFL Media Hans Schroeder said fans should be vigilant about the game times.






They're saying fuck the fans.