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Not a fan. Slightly better than Turner.

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I would like to have a talk with him about the pass/run ratio. I don't know how many other teams go 55 passes to 6 runs in a game... actually, I do, it's zero.

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Schlereth has a good take.

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[quote=davy;1347362]Amen to this, hate that play.

[B]Not as much as I hate going empty backfield when it's not an obvious passing down, again gives the defense the advantage.[/B]

Worst of all though was Logan Thomas running the sneak for a second time. He barely made it first time on about 5th effort and we run it again with predictable outcome.

:rant:[/quote]

He did it again!

First down run gains 6 yards, second and 4 he goes empty backfield and surprise surprise it's another sack.

:banghead:

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Atrocious run blocking and play calling have been the main issue. Last year with a shitty line and BRob coming back from being shot ran the ball way better. This year BRob either gains one yard or no gain. If he gets 5 yards, next play it's a pass. Keep running the fucking ball and make manageable.

Time to shuffle players on the line. Replace Gates, Wylie and Jay Leno.

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They basically only have two running plays. Not difficult to defend.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1349847]They basically only have two running plays. Not difficult to defend.[/quote]

I was thinking even before the Giants game that we must have the smallest playbook in the league, we seem to run the same plays over and over again.

If they were working then fine but they're not.

I think our playbook is more of a pamphlet. ;)

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[quote=davy;1349828]He did it again!

First down run gains 6 yards, second and 4 he goes empty backfield and surprise surprise it's another sack.

:banghead:[/quote]

Thats when I switched off

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1349847]They basically only have two running plays. Not difficult to defend.[/quote]

And, you can see those run plays from two miles away. It's sooooo telegraphed.

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was every 3rd down play a sack yesterday? sure seemed like we only had 2 plays to get a first as 3rd was an automatic sack . . . what a joke!!

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EB is a RB coach and that's where he needs to stay. Nothing wrong w/ that. Some guys are good at just being position coaches. He is in way over his head. He is not any better than Scott Turner. Maybe worse.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1349875]EB is a RB coach and that's where he needs to stay. Nothing wrong w/ that. Some guys are good at just being position coaches. He is in way over his head. He is not any better than Scott Turner. Maybe worse.[/quote]

RB coach? BRob has regressed, he played better last year after he came back from being shot. You are being too generous with EB

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349877]RB coach? BRob has regressed, he played better last year after he came back from being shot. You are being too generous with EB[/quote]

I don't think he's regressed. There is no where to run when he gets the ball for the most part. They either need to give him 20 + carries or give it to Rod. But stop rotating them every other play. It makes no sense. Give him some other runs besides pistol shotgun plays.

I hate this offense. It's just bad. No creativity, play action is awful, 2 run plays. These guys will all be gone seasons end.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349877]RB coach? BRob has regressed, he played better last year after he came back from being shot. You are being too generous with EB[/quote]

How do we know he has regressed? Our o-line is the devil's asshole and EB has like 2 telegraphed run plays.

I don't think the fault lies with our RB's. Gibson most likely won't be re-signed, so we will be adding another back to replace him.

But I think the RB room is fine for 2024, with Robinson, Rodriguez, FA/Draft Pick. We need to find another McKissick time guy.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1349878]I don't think he's regressed. There is no where to run when he gets the ball for the most part. They either need to give him 20 + carries or give it to Rod. But stop rotating them every other play. It makes no sense. Give him some other runs besides pistol shotgun plays.

I hate this offense. It's just bad. No creativity, play action is awful, 2 run plays. These guys will all be gone seasons end.[/quote]

Meant to say the OL has regressed. Put Paul at LG, Larsen or Stromberg at C and Lucas at RT. Let's see if it makes a difference.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349877]RB coach? BRob has regressed, he played better last year after he came back from being shot. You are being too generous with EB[/quote]

Rodriguez looked much better than BRob yesterday.

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Guys offense belongs in the NCAA.

I'm over em. Completely.

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EB was a mistake hire … Hopefully nobody is brought back next year … complete rebuild just like an expansion team that we are …

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1349865]Thats when I switched off[/quote]

That's when I turned if off also,I was like WTF when I saw that formation,Giants I'm sure were fricking giddy when they saw that! You just knew that was going to be a disaster

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[quote=htownskinfan;1349963]That's when I turned if off also,I was like WTF when I saw that formation,Giants I'm sure were fricking giddy when they saw that! You just knew that was going to be a disaster[/quote]

Yeah, they surely were thinking there was a trick play coming, surely noone would be stupid enough to go empty backfield in the circumstances. But they were wrong smdh.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349883]Meant to say the OL has regressed. Put Paul at LG, Larsen or Stromberg at C and Lucas at RT. Let's see if it makes a difference.[/quote]

You got that right! I'd like to think think that a real HC would have told him to make OL personnel changes by now.

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I see no reason to have any optimism about EB right now. Dude just seems in over his head. He can't protect Sam, and it took way too long for him to make meaningful adjustments against the Giants. Stop dropping him back so much, the OL can't give him a decent pocket most of the time and Sam is either too slow in reading things or honestly maybe he just doesn't have the feel to play from the pocket in the NFL.

Can't wait to clean house in the offseason. This whole staff needs to go.

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[quote=MTK;1350037]I see no reason to have any optimism about EB right now. Dude just seems in over his head. He can't protect Sam, and it took way too long for him to make meaningful adjustments against the Giants. Stop dropping him back so much, the OL can't give him a decent pocket most of the time and Sam is either too slow in reading things or honestly maybe he just doesn't have the feel to play from the pocket in the NFL.

Can't wait to clean house in the offseason. This whole staff needs to go.[/quote]

Agree

We are all seeing why EB after wining multiple SB and having the best offense since the greatest show on turf was never heavily recruited by any other teams, it was all Andy and Kermit

You don't have his resume on paper and only get hired by a DS owned WSH and not have something wrong with you

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[quote=mredskins;1350076]Agree

We are all seeing why EB after wining multiple SB and having the best offense since the greatest show on turf was never heavily recruited by any other teams, it was all Andy and Kermit

You don't have his resume on paper and only get hired by a DS owned WSH and not have something wrong with you[/quote]

Was there really that many people who believed EB was the offensive mastermind / genius? I figured most people knew that it was Andy Reid who was the real brains behind the operation.

You're seeing what EB is worth now. I 100% agree

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1350083]Was there really that many people who believed EB was the offensive mastermind / genius? I figured most people knew that it was Andy Reid who was the real brains behind the operation.

You're seeing what EB is worth now. I 100% agree[/quote]


I think there was reason for doubt or wonder but now we obviously all know it wasn't him.

Every year bad teams need some off season spark to push ticket sales drum up excitement; some sort of buzz

EB was that for us with the combination of SH, book is still out on SH but EB I mean i don't see it.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1350037]I see no reason to have any optimism about EB right now. Dude just seems in over his head. He can't protect Sam, and it took way too long for him to make meaningful adjustments against the Giants. Stop dropping him back so much, the OL can't give him a decent pocket most of the time and Sam is either too slow in reading things or honestly maybe he just doesn't have the feel to play from the pocket in the NFL.

Can't wait to clean house in the offseason. This whole staff needs to go.[/QUOTE]


Yeah I was high on EB after the first few weeks but now I’m over him too. He never runs the ball and he thinks Sam is Mahomes 2.0 or some shit. The line is awful but Howell hasn’t done very well either. Terry and Jahan are both looking avg as hell too. The whole team is bad right now.


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1350094]Yeah I was high on EB after the first few weeks but now I’m over him too. He never runs the ball and he thinks Sam is Mahomes 2.0 or some shit. The line is awful but Howell hasn’t done very well either. Terry and Jahan are both looking avg as hell too. The whole team is bad right now.


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The running game is the absolute worst I have ever seen at this level, and we watched the Steve Spurrier years...

It's really, really bad his scheme may not even do that well in friggin college. I just don't understand at all.

Howell may have spent 1% of his time under center this year. It's honestly criminal negligence at this point. Cannot wait til the entire staff is gone (I sound like a broken record).