Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

Raiders are proving that a big change in season can be very beneficial


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[url]https://x.com/magicjohnson/status/1723903578442469461?s=46[/url]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=tomo366;1351799]The PI on Juste was not a PI and it was on 4th down….The Referees are continually screwing this team over And I do not see that changing….[/quote]

I thought the St Juste call was bad, what’s worse was the Refs judgement. You swallow the whistle because the ball wasn’t catchable and St Juste didn’t interfere at the point of the ball.

Still not as bad as the ejection. That was a penalty but to eject was the just ridiculous.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1351815]Raiders are proving that a big change in season can be very beneficial


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

They've also benefitted from playing one of the two worst teams in the league (Giants) and one of the worst offenses and quarterbacks in the league (Jets). They'll probably get brought back down to earth next week versus the Dolphins.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1351816][url]https://x.com/magicjohnson/status/1723903578442469461?s=46[/url]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

So, do something about it...

If we had just an average defense (not the 2nd to last D in the league), we'd probably be 7-3 right now.

Imagine if the offense wasn't getting it done - and the defense was on the field more. Thank goodness Howell is at least making these losses look respectable...

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=CapsCommies;1351807]Yeah the coaching staff needs to go yesterday.

I'd like to go after one of the hotshot GM candidates like Ian Cunningham or Andy Weidl - both AGMs who came up under Ozzie in Baltimore and spent several seasons in Philadelphia including their SB victory.

Let the GM pick the HC, but ideally someone like Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik who got his NFL coaching start in Washington.

Rivera and JDR are horrendous. Not impressed with Bieniemy, either.[/quote]

Welcome to the board and I agree with every single thing you said!!!

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1351813]Obviously Snyder let him walk, so I don’t hold it against him. Can You imagine if dumb Snyder would have hired O’Connell as HC with Smith as GM? That’s what I wanted, we would be at least be in the playoffs.[/quote]

I know you're high on Smith but anyone that has worked with or under Ozzie would also be really high on my list.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1351815]Raiders are proving that a big change in season can be very beneficial


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

The difference is they got rid of the cancer that was Josh McDaniels - he is so atrociously bad at being a head coach anybody is an immediate improvement.

Ron is not a good coach but he's better than McDaniels - we always stumble around to average every year. Players respect him whereas they don't respect McDaniels. McDaniels ego was so big he thought he can turn a high-schooler into an All-Pro. That's what did him in.

Let Ron ride out the year, hopefully we keep seeing improvement from Howell and we clean house in the offseason.

I'd love for Kyle Smith to come back as GM in the offseason, we need some fresh blood there. Go find the next Kyle Shanahan for coaching - we need a guy who can maximize our late round draft talent.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1351824]So, do something about it...

If we had just an average defense (not the 2nd to last D in the league), we'd probably be 7-3 right now.

Imagine if the offense wasn't getting it done - and the defense was on the field more. Thank goodness Howell is at least making these losses look respectable...[/quote]

I wouldn't doubt Magic Johnson wanted to make a change a few weeks ago, but Harris likely wants to hold off until the end of the season.

Yes, a halfway competent staff would have us at 6-4 or 7-3 right now.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

Ron isn't better than anyone and neither is del Rio.

They should have been gone WEEKS ago.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

They need to go however if they do I wouldn’t be surprised if the team collapses and when that happens players could quit or get hurt .. I would not get rid of Ron until season ends however I would move on from JDR .. like today! Ron is the same coach as he has always been .. middle of road type.He hired Eric and the Offense for the most part is playing ok . The D has collapsed completely ( Ron and the front office signed off on trading our top two pass rushers.. so essentially they threw in the towel on the D ) so why not move on from JDR??

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

I know people hate on Carroll but he is damn good coach. He's in his 70's and has the energy of a guy in his 20's. That rubs off on his team I feel. He's going up and down the sidelines coaching guys up- it matters.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

Washington Defense | 2023
EPA Per Play Against 0.061 26th
Average Yards Allowed Per Play 5.5 T-27th
Scoring Drive Allowed % 56.6% 32nd

PFF STATS

We give up a scoring drive 57% of every drive LMAO! That is COMICAL

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

Rivera and Del Rio are losers. And I mean just by the actual definition. They just are incompetent and cannot win more than a handful of games each season.

The job they have done on defense is an absolute fucking embarrassment. If they had any self-respect, they would come out and say the same and re-sign. Instead they will continue to "steal" money for the rest of the season.

When they get fired, I want a celebration with them walking out of the building. Like the reverse of when a king comes back into his city after being out on wars.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1351837]Washington Defense | 2023
EPA Per Play Against0.06126th
Average Yards Allowed Per Play5.5T-27th
Scoring Drive Allowed %56.6%32nd

PFF STATS

We give up a scoring drive 57% of every drive LMAO! That is COMICAL[/QUOTE]


With how many first round picks on defense? That final drive yesterday would be the nail in the coffin for any other DC on any other team whose DC’s seat was already on fire, but stubborn Ron will keep him. Why? Because Ron enjoys losing. My God those two are such a detriment to this team. Oh well 7 more games with dumb and dumber.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1351793]Dude! You are still a Howell doubter, what more do you want to see from Howell that you haven't? When you make a comment:

We found our guy for atleast next year (hopefully many years)

Then I consider you a doubter.[/QUOTE]


Guys fall off all the time. Look at Wentz.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

The positive is we will have a ton of $ to spend , new owners , Damn good QB and draft picks.

This season is a wash but at least EB and Howell are a good duo. Yesterday Sam made some damn good plays scrambling… I don’t want to get crazy but he looked like a mini mahomes on some… not saying he’ll be like 15 but u get the point.

The defense is just absolutely a train wreck. The talent just isn’t there. Look at our LBs and Safeties. Curl is solid but he’s not a star S, on most teams he’s JAG. I certainly wouldn’t pay him 10M a yr.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

Ron and Jack don't like sending pressure. But it seems like whenever they did it worked. Sanchez even mentioned it. Why not keep doing it? The definition of stupid is doing something over and over again that doesn't work. This is Geno Smith. Why didn't they come off the bus pressuring him? I just don't get those two. What are they afraid of? Your defense already sucks.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

One guy who has played well the last 2 weeks and is being used properly is Antonio Gibson. With a solid OL, he would be a weapon, I think he could be resigned on a friendly contract and they should.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1351858]One guy who has played well the last 2 weeks and is being used properly is Antonio Gibson. With a solid OL, he would be a weapon, I think he could be resigned on a friendly contract and they should.[/quote]

When's he's not fumbling, he looks like a good football player. Keep him away from in-between the tackles as much as humanly possible, and he can make some plays.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1351825]Welcome to the board and I agree with every single thing you said!!![/quote]

Thank you, my friend. I'm 31 so like many others all I've known is the dark ages. But exciting times are ahead...

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

Coach dust up needs to go. He should be flat out embarrassed

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=tomo366;1351799]The PI on Juste was not a PI and it was on 4th down….The Referees are continually screwing this team over And I do not see that changing….[/quote]

You can't drape yourself over a guy past the 5 yard mark regardless of if the ball was there are not. That is getting called 99 out of 100 times and should be called 100 out of 100.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

Here's a crazy idea: keep Rivera and JDR so we can get a top 10 pick.: [url]https://www.tankathon.com/nfl[/url]

Fire the Marty's and bring in a new GM right now, that reports directly to Josh Harris. Let them start working on the draft and do some work in the background to start looking for a new HC.

And then fire the entire coaching staff at the end of the year.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1351859]When's he's not fumbling, he looks like a good football player. Keep him away from in-between the tackles as much as humanly possible, and he can make some plays.[/quote]

He's fumbled once this year (lost it), albeit in the first game and at a bad time. Robinson has fumbled twice losing one. So this year, Robinson has fumbled twice as much as Gibson. lol

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1351863]You can't drape yourself over a guy past the 5 yard mark regardless of if the ball was there are not. That is getting called 99 out of 100 times and should be called 100 out of 100.[/quote]

That was just piss-poor technique. An absolute specialty of Juste. I think it could have been let go, but I also wasn't pissed-off it got called either. That was completely avoidable on his end if he just played the ball. Instead, it's like he had no idea where the ball was and just wanted to guy Metcalf instead.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=SkinsGuru;1351866]He's fumbled once this year (lost it), albeit in the first game and at a bad time. Robinson has fumbled twice losing one. So this year, Robinson has fumbled twice as much as Gibson. lol[/quote]

2 fumbles on 60 touches for Gibson. And he's fumbled a lot in the past. I'm holding my breath for the rest of my life every time he gets the ball between the tackles for us.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4360294/antonio-gibson[/url]

Robinson has 2 fumbles on 141 touches.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4241474/brian-robinson[/url]

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1351871]2 fumbles on 60 touches for Gibson. And he's fumbled a lot in the past. I'm holding my breath for the rest of my life every time he gets the ball between the tackles for us.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4360294/antonio-gibson[/url]

Robinson has 2 fumbles on 141 touches.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4241474/brian-robinson[/url][/quote]

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/rushing/table/rushing/sort/rushingFumbles/dir/desc"]https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/rushing/table/rushing/sort/rushingFumbles/dir/desc[/URL]

Shows 1 fumble, 1 lost for AG

Shows 2 fumbles, 1 lost for Robinson

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=SkinsGuru;1351874][URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/rushing/table/rushing/sort/rushingFumbles/dir/desc"]https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/rushing/table/rushing/sort/rushingFumbles/dir/desc[/URL]

Shows 1 fumble, 1 lost for AG

Shows 2 fumbles, 2 lost for Robinson[/quote]

You're basing on just rushing attempts, I'm basing on total touches. Gibson has had the ball 60 times and fumbled twice. Robinson has had the ball 141 times and fumbled twice. Plus Gibson has a history of fumbling pre-dating this season. It will always be a concern of mine when he has the ball.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1351876]You're basing on just rushing attempts, I'm basing on total touches. Gibson has had the ball 60 times and fumbled twice. Robinson has had the ball 141 times and fumbled twice. Plus Gibson has a history of fumbling pre-dating this season. It will always be a concern of mine when he has the ball.[/quote]

my bad . . . however

In 2021 was bad with 6 total fumbles . . . no other year has he had more than 2 . . . he has not been as bad as people make it him out to be:

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4360294/antonio-gibson"]See:[/URL]

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1351869]That was just piss-poor technique. An absolute specialty of Juste. I think it could have been let go, but I also wasn't pissed-off it got called either. That was completely avoidable on his end if he just played the ball. Instead, it's like he had no idea where the ball was and just wanted to guy Metcalf instead.[/quote]

I understand peoples reactions that it was close to the 5 yard mark and not catchable but shitty players are always going to have the refs eye. always. For me I also want calls to be consistent. I don't care if it is asinine every fan should know going in that it will always be called. I get that it is not consistently enforced either on a first down that might not get called, on a 4th bank it.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=SkinsGuru;1351878]my bad . . . however

In 2021 was bad with 6 total fumbles . . . no other year has he had more than 2 . . . he has not been as bad as people make it him out to be:

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4360294/antonio-gibson"]See:[/URL][/quote]

I guess not, 2021 is just tattooed to my brain and it's hard to move past. He's got some good skills, will be interesting to see how the market plays out for him.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1351880]I understand peoples reactions that it was close to the 5 yard mark and not catchable but shitty players are always going to have the refs eye. always. For me I also want calls to be consistent. I don't care if it is asinine every fan should know going in that it will always be called. I get that it is not consistently enforced either on a first down that might not get called, on a 4th bank it.[/quote]

*hug Metcalf

I agree, he 100% put himself in the position to have that called on him. Definitely way more on him than on the ref that flagged him.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1351857]Ron and Jack don't like sending pressure. But it seems like whenever they did it worked. Sanchez even mentioned it. Why not keep doing it? The definition of stupid is doing something over and over again that doesn't work. This is Geno Smith. Why didn't they come off the bus pressuring him? I just don't get those two. What are they afraid of? Your defense already sucks.[/quote]

They are both old and scared to get burned deep.. The DBs suck ass anyway so why just let Geno sit back there and pick u apart? It makes no sense

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1351884]They are both old and scared to get burned deep.. The DBs suck ass anyway so why just let Geno sit back there and pick u apart? It makes no sense[/quote]

Couch coaches like us genuinely can coach at least as good as these 2 guys.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

I was watching on Redzone over here and didn't see the play that Forbes got ejected for. Was it that bad? I mean the kids as thin as tissue paper, I'd never expect him to get ejected for a big bit!

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=AnonEmouse;1351890]I was watching on Redzone over here and didn't see the play that Forbes got ejected for. Was it that bad? I mean the kids as thin as tissue paper, I'd never expect him to get ejected for a big bit![/quote]

It was a 100% LEGAL hit. He did nothing wrong. Heads collide in the NFL. There was no crown of the helmet, no lowering of the head. It was total horsesh!t.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1351891]It was a 100% LEGAL hit. He did nothing wrong. Heads collide in the NFL. There was no crown of the helmet, no lowering of the head. It was total horsesh!t.[/quote]

Not only that but you have to have two personal fouls in one game in order to get ejected.

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[quote=AnonEmouse;1351890]I was watching on Redzone over here and didn't see the play that Forbes got ejected for. Was it that bad? I mean the kids as thin as tissue paper, I'd never expect him to get ejected for a big bit![/quote]

[url]https://x.com/jasrifootball/status/1723818043157905468?s=46&t=PLCFppIcPjVVwlav8ILf0Q[/url]

Re: Can we get some D - Seahawks post game thread
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1351849]The positive is we will have a ton of $ to spend , new owners , Damn good QB and draft picks.

This season is a wash but at least EB and Howell are a good duo. Yesterday Sam made some damn good plays scrambling… I don’t want to get crazy but he looked like a mini mahomes on some… not saying he’ll be like 15 but u get the point.

The defense is just absolutely a train wreck. The talent just isn’t there. Look at our LBs and Safeties. Curl is solid but he’s not a star S, on most teams he’s JAG. I certainly wouldn’t pay him 10M a yr.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]


Throw our corners in there too. BSJ is getting abused on a weekly basis. Forbes who knows? Not good so far. Fuller’s contract is up i think and he is just meh most of the time. It is a sub par unit.