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[quote=Chico23231;1353146]Forget the coaching…yes it’s not great, but this roster isn’t very good.

I see no problem cleaning house in the front office during the bye week.[/quote]

Besides 93 and 94 you cant name another starter on our defense that would start anywhere else. Fuller maybe at the slot corner spot.

This team has no playmakers on defense and CY and Sweat were no better. Chase didn't do shit yesterday either.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1353143]I won't be one bit shocked if at some point in this season Sam tears his Achilles or ACL on the field at Fedex. He has to scramble so often and takes hits on the run too often for it not to happen to this team. Can't have a potential QB stay healthy through a full season.[/quote]

Even if true about the field, posts putting shit like this out in the universe should be an automatic one week ban lol.

You stow this injury talk asap CR!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353148]Besides 93 and 94 you cant name another starter on our defense that would start anywhere else. Fuller maybe at the slot corner spot.

This team has no playmakers on defense and CY and Sweat were no better. Chase didn't do shit yesterday either.[/quote]

Would Payne and Allen start for some teams, but not the best teams. We don't have one player on the roster that is top ten at their position.

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Paynes been playing well and semi consistent.. he may get top 10 consideration

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On 49 snaps

Chris Paul gave up 7 pressures and 2 sacks.....

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353176]On 49 snaps

Chris Paul gave up 7 pressures and 2 sacks.....[/quote]

We do not have a starting LG on the roster. We could replace all 5 guys up-front next year.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1353176]On 49 snaps

Chris Paul gave up 7 pressures and 2 sacks.....[/QUOTE]


There is not a single guy on the line that is a keeper or has any potential whatsoever. Stromberg maybe but I really have no idea.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1353148]Besides 93 and 94 you cant name another starter on our defense that would start anywhere else. Fuller maybe at the slot corner spot.

This team has no playmakers on defense and CY and Sweat were no better. Chase didn't do shit yesterday either.[/QUOTE]


Yup. And Allen can fuck off. Payne is still out there making plays. Allen is sulking. Those are absolutely the three guys though. Davis has shown me enough that I think scheming could benefit him. Maybe Kurl? Everyone else is an absolute lost cause.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1353114]What happened to Jon Allen?? He’s been MIA all season. Payne has been more consistent this yr


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For one thing he's been constantly double-teamed since we traded our starting DE's.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1353121]OptaStats:

Entering today, NFL teams were a combined 57-0 over the last 25 regular seasons when having a game with:

100+ rushing yards
250+ passing yards
35:00+ TOP
no more than 25 penalty yards
no more than 1 turnover

The Commanders did all that today and lost by 35.[/quote]

So you're saying they had a [U]miraculous[/U] game? Wow!

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1353121]OptaStats:

Entering today, NFL teams were a combined 57-0 over the last 25 regular seasons when having a game with:

100+ rushing yards
250+ passing yards
35:00+ TOP
no more than 25 penalty yards
no more than 1 turnover

The Commanders did all that today and lost by 35.[/QUOTE]


This is mind numbing. Basically we can find a way not only to lose, but get blown out at all costs.

57-0 and we not only lost but got steamrolled. So basically coaching and personnel. That is 110% Ron. He picks his staff, the players, and is the HC. Wow. Ron really is a legendary loser.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1353181]We do not have a starting LG on the roster. We could replace all 5 guys up-front next year.[/quote]


The only two that will stay is Cosmi and Chris Paul.....

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1353203]The only two that will stay is Cosmi and Chris Paul.....[/QUOTE]


Stay is one thing, start is another. I hope we have 5 brand new starters.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1353181]We do not have a starting LG on the roster. We could replace all 5 guys up-front next year.[/QUOTE]


90M + in cap space and I’d use half of that on Ol and the other half on Defense


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They made a Step in the right direction. Makes me happier than I was

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[quote=punch it in;1353205]Stay is one thing, start is another. I hope we have 5 brand new starters.[/quote]

Cosmi will be the lone starter from 2023..

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1353219]Cosmi will be the lone starter from 2023..[/quote]

Agreed. It's easy to get down on the whole roster, but especially with linemen on both sides of the ball, the standard and performance of the unit matters most to both the on field performance and the individuals. with an effective C and RT, Cosmi should be a very good starter. And maybe even Leno (if we keep him) with a good LG.

Likewise Allen and Payne, with a good edge added and improved performance from the likes of Henry, good see a resurgence.

Maybe even Davis, in the right scheme and the right colleagues, could validate his 1st round status.

We've got to be careful of a baby and the bath water scenario here.

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The reality is that we will have some holdover players, of course -- we can't just jettison everyone as we wouldn't be able to fill all the holes with FA and the draft. I suspect we keep Davis and Hudson as the only 2 LBs, Cosmi, Leno, Stromberg, and Larsen on the OL, Payne, Allen, and Ridgeway as DL, Toohill, Henry, and Jones, as DE, McLaurin, Dotson, and maybe Crowder as WRs, all of our RBs, Turner and Bates as backup TEs, Fuller and Martin as DBs, Kurl and Forrest at S, and Way at P. That's 25 guys -- not sure the rest are worth keeping and most of the others most definitely are not.

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[quote=calia;1353227]The reality is that we will have some holdover players, of course -- we can't just jettison everyone as we wouldn't be able to fill all the holes with FA and the draft. I suspect we keep Davis and Hudson as the only 2 LBs, Cosmi, Leno, Stromberg, and Larsen on the OL, Payne, Allen, and Ridgeway as DL, Toohill, Henry, and Jones, as DE, McLaurin, Dotson, and maybe Crowder as WRs, all of our RBs, Turner and Bates as backup TEs, Fuller and Martin as DBs, Kurl and Forrest at S, and Way at P. That's 25 guys -- not sure the rest are worth keeping and most of the others most definitely are not.[/quote]

Howell? Forbes?

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I'm shocked some people want to keep Davis, for me he'd be the first one out of the door, he's garbage.

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[quote=davy;1353235]I'm shocked some people want to keep Davis, for me he'd be the first one out of the door, he's garbage.[/quote]

He's an athlete just needs to be used better maybe 🤷

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[quote=Meks;1353236]He's an athlete just needs to be used better maybe 🤷[/quote]
Yeah, I think it's clear that our LB's suffered under Del Rio and RR. I think bringing in coaches that coach can make a huge difference. I tend to think that Del Rio and RR did see something valuable in Davis, they (meaning Del Rio particularly) just lost their edge in coaching this generation of players.

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Actually a good point, is the generational gap so big between RR/JDR and the players that it's factored into their poor results in trying to coach these guys up? Are some of the players struggling to relate/buy in because granddad Ron is so out of touch with the yoot?🤔

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1353242]Actually a good point, is the generational gap so big between RR/JDR and the players that it's factored into their poor results in trying to coach these guys up? Are some of the players struggling to relate/buy in because granddad Ron is so out of touch with the yoot?🤔[/quote]

There's always a method to the madness, .. I think it's the former, with a mix of the latter

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[quote=Meks;1353236]He's an athlete just needs to be used better maybe 🤷[/quote]

Apke was also an "athlete"

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[quote=davy;1353235]I'm shocked some people want to keep Davis, for me he'd be the first one out of the door, he's garbage.[/quote]

He's similar to Chase, looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

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[quote=davy;1353235]I'm shocked some people want to keep Davis, for me he'd be the first one out of the door, he's garbage.[/quote]

I think he is serviceable depth. Obviously not picking up the 5th year option, he’s a jag

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[quote=skinsfan69;1353245]Apke was also an "athlete"[/quote]

I've seen Davis make more plays in half a season than apke in his whole career 😅😅😅

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[quote=Meks;1353249]I've seen Davis make more plays in half a season than apke in his whole career 😅😅😅[/quote]

And what rounds were each drafted in??? Ones a bust the other is about what was expected.

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Should the new HC choose a 3-4 D coordinator in '24 ?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1353251]Should the new HC choose a 3-4 D coordinator in '24 ?[/quote]

I am old school.I prefer 4-3. Washington in 3-4 defense is committing sacrilege.

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[quote=VTSkins1961;1353253]I am old school.I prefer 4-3. Washington in 3-4 defense is committing sacrilege.[/quote]

We've seen all of them before. Guess it will depend on how the new d coordinater sees the roster 🤷

No fucking round peg in square hole shit that's all we ask right?

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I think we need a new thread(s) for 2034 offensive/defensive strategies. Although at the moment everything is post Dallas 😁

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1353255]I think we need a new thread(s) for 2034 offensive/defensive strategies. Although at the moment everything is post Dallas 😁[/quote]

Thinking that far ahead?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1353251]Should the new HC choose a 3-4 D coordinator in '24 ?[/quote]

Tried that for 10 years and were unable to get the LBs and front three that were needed. Harder to get the right personnel for that system. So why make it harder?

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[quote=nonniey;1353257]Tried that for 10 years and were unable to get the LBs and front three that were needed. Harder to get the right personnel for that system. So why make it harder?[/quote]

We haven't been able to find the linebackers for a 4-3, let alone a 3-4!

But it'll be the new coaching staffs call, notably the new HC. If he picks a 3-4 DC, then they'll find a way to make the 3-4 work. If they do though, I have to wonder how they make the Payne-Allen combo work?

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The problem with 3-4 is there are not enough true nose tackles out there, where as DTs are easy to find. You better start appreciating position flexibility if 3-4 is the way of the future.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1353257]Tried that for 10 years and were unable to get the LBs and front three that were needed. Harder to get the right personnel for that system. So why make it harder?[/QUOTE]


Because Snyder hired idiots to make decisions. Everything is on the table now because he is gone and it can never be that bad in the FO again. That isn’t even a possibility. We just got rid of the biggest idiot in NFL history.

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This 3-4 vs 4-3 talk is just nonsense when we play nickel like half the time anyways lol.

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[quote=mooby;1353266]This 3-4 vs 4-3 talk is just nonsense when we play nickel like half the time anyways lol.[/quote]

110%

Most of the league is in a base nickel