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This year is all about JD5 and his development. We all knew the holes this team had going in. I mean Forbes is so bad, BSJ isn't a #1 Corner either so the weakness is glaring. Team will eat us up all season passing.

Daniel Jones sucks ass but he will get right against us watch

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Not including the last possession when the game ended, the Bucs scored on 7 of their 8 possessions. That's a fucking abomination. I don't care how low your expectations were, that is below that. The defense was an embarrassment to the sport and all the "big" names didn't do jack-shit.

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I mean my expectations were on point. Hell I bet tampa and Dallas both minus 10 and half and won a bunch of money..

Just really wish the defense played better and wasn't so damn vanilla. It gives me the ickies for the rest of the year.

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JD5 had a 36 Passing grade.. OUCH

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Someone needs to show JD how to tighten his chin strap. You would think he would have learned that when he played pop warner football.

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The way the Negative Nancy's around here are throwing childish fits about the state of our team after one game is ridiculous. We all knew the new FO and coaching staff was left with a nearly bare cupboard and neither AP nor DQ has deceived the fanbase in any way into thinking there might be a quick turnaround. In fact, they made a point of reminding us that turning this franchise around is going to be a process that will take a while. So, I think the NN's among us should remember that they weren't promised immediate success and try to believe that this journey will be different.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1364385]JD5 had a 36 Passing grade.. OUCH[/quote]

Dang.. He didn't look comfortable as he did in the preseason, hopefully he will get rid of the jitters soon.

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Dyami Brown didn't even have a target yesterday. I hope that changes Week 2.

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Hard to underestimate how bad Rivera was as a GM. See how he left Carolina as well. Going to take time. Time=seasons. Brace yourself, folks.

Find who can play, keep JD alive, and let the FO build. Welcome to the post-Snyder era.

PS I do think the D will play better. But you cannot turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. Talent on both sides is just not there. YET!

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[QUOTE=JWsleep;1364393]Hard to underestimate how bad Rivera was as a GM. See how he left Carolina as well. Going to take time. Time=seasons. Brace yourself, folks.

Find who can play, keep JD alive, and let the FO build. Welcome to the post-Snyder era.

PS I do think the D will play better. But you cannot turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. Talent on both sides is just not there. YET![/QUOTE]


RR may go down as the worst talent evaluator in the history of the league. Heck, even Jamin Davis isn’t being used the way that RR anticipated (and he wasn’t bad yesterday).


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Peters certainly didn't waste any time, York has been released recently.

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Preserving that 7th round pick!


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Well I certainly did not expect that. I was pretty jazzed, I was not a believer in Baker. I figured he had his career year and would return to being Baker Mayfield. Couldn't have been more wrong, he was absolutely fantastic and kept the Washington offense off the field. I was expecting a defense that was flying around and was really aggressive as it attacked the ball. I was not expecting this.

But I told myself before the start it's only 1 game and many fans have been made to look stupid by forming any opinion after Game 1. We all know this team is not ready to win and had serious holes. But it's hard to do after that effort, they weren't even competitive. The very first offensive play and I said to myself this is the same movie I've seen for the last 30 years. Defensively they could not get off the field on 3rd down. Again.

But it's only Game 1 and I still like our future big time.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364412]Well I certainly did not expect that. I was pretty jazzed, I was not a believer in Baker. I figured he had his career year and would return to being Baker Mayfield. Couldn't have been more wrong, he was absolutely fantastic and kept the Washington offense off the field. I was expecting a defense that was flying around and was really aggressive as it attacked the ball. I was not expecting this.

But I told myself before the start it's only 1 game and many fans have been made to look stupid by forming any opinion after Game 1. We all know this team is not ready to win and had serious holes. But it's hard to do after that effort, [B]they weren't even competitive[/B]. The very first offensive play and I said to myself this is the same movie I've seen for the last 30 years. Defensively they could not get off the field on 3rd down. Again.

But it's only Game 1 and I still like our future big time.[/quote]

I don't know. I actually thought they were competitive. It was very apparent they had a rookie QB, the secondary was exploited at times, and they could have executed some things better, but I thought they were competitive. I didn't notice a lack of effort.

On D, they pressured Baker a lot, they just never completed the task. Kudos to Baker, he was like Houdini back there and he kept his eyes downfield and got the ball to his playmakers. I thought they did a good job against the run, overall.

On O, I thought they ran the ball effectively and the pass protection was sufficient. I just think JD was not seeing the field well, and he often bailed on the play too quickly. I would have liked to see him have more patience rather than just tuck and run everytime. He was also more inaccurate than expected. A lot of nerves I'm sure. That deep ball to Terry was overthrown by about 2 yards. Complete that - it's a TD, and who knows...

Like it has been said already, we all knew what the potential weaknesses were heading into week 1. It was a tough match up for this new team, week 1. I expect a much better performance in week 2 - all around. Week 1 is almost always a liar.

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What a bad game next week will be. Two garbage ass teams that are going nowhere. I mean I don't even know about you guys but my patience, my fan hood is just in the toilet. But I still love talking football. Anyone watch the Lions and how they just ran it down the Rams throat in overtime? I may root for those guys this year, I love watching them play, just love everything about that team and organization.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1364420]What a bad game next week will be. Two garbage ass teams that are going nowhere. I mean I don't even know about you guys but my patience, my fan hood is just in the toilet. But I still love talking football. Anyone watch the Lions and how they just ran it down the Rams throat in overtime? I may root for those guys this year, I love watching them play, just love everything about that team and organization.[/quote]

The Lions are worse off than Washington when it comes to organizations. They could possibly be on the "right track" now, but overall they're a more shitty organization than the 'Skins.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1364420]What a bad game next week will be. Two garbage ass teams that are going nowhere. I mean I don't even know about you guys but my patience, my fan hood is just in the toilet. But I still love talking football. Anyone watch the Lions and how they just ran it down the Rams throat in overtime? I may root for those guys this year, I love watching them play, just love everything about that team and organization.[/quote]

I've bought in to the idea that the new organization in Washington is completely different from that of the disgraceful Daniel Snyder's and that our new leadership will eventually build a winner.

To help myself endure the building process, I have pushed my own emotional reset button. For me, it's as if the Snyder years never happened. All of the accumulated stress of the past is gone so, in my mind, the bad loss to Tampa Bay is not stacked on top of the pile of all that we suffered at the hands of Snyder. That is what I feel I must do because I know that I'll never be able to convince myself to transfer my allegiance to another NFL team.

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Daron Payne
@94yne
Yall can’t hate me out the spot 🤷🏾*♂️ hate it or love it ima be me.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1364420]What a bad game next week will be. Two garbage ass teams that are going nowhere. I mean I don't even know about you guys but my patience, my fan hood is just in the toilet. But I still love talking football. Anyone watch the Lions and how they just ran it down the Rams throat in overtime? I may root for those guys this year, I love watching them play, just love everything about that team and organization.[/quote]

Luckily I wont be watching due to work. I'll catch the highlights on YT TV. I have zero interest in watching bad football anymore. JD5 will be fun to watch as the yr goes and he gets more comfortable but the overall team? Hard pass

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1364392]Dyami Brown didn't even have a target yesterday. I hope that changes Week 2.[/quote]

hes not good thats why

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[quote=skinsfan69;1364420]What a bad game next week will be. Two garbage ass teams that are going nowhere. I mean I don't even know about you guys but my patience, my fan hood is just in the toilet. But I still love talking football. Anyone watch the Lions and how they just ran it down the Rams throat in overtime? I may root for those guys this year, I love watching them play, just love everything about that team and organization.[/quote]

I feel like the C-men should come out on top this week against the Ginas but New York has flat out owned Washington in Landover.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1364417]
Week 1 is almost always a liar.[/quote]
I've been saying that for nearly 30 years.

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Ok, so my real thoughts on this weekends game. It was pretty much what I expected to see. A bad defense with a rookie QB struggling to be a rookie QB. Defense was just trash, which I already predicted as much. Don't expect it to be any better unless we're playing a shitty team like the Giants next week.

Jayden Daniels: Well, the guy is already reminding me of RGIII and that's not good. Runs entirely too much, and doesn't know how to slide. You can tell he's not comfortable in the pocket, and he's holding onto the ball too long. This is a great example from Twitter:

So a user posts this and asks who's the blame on the play. 2.33 seconds and JD takes a sack. Well, most fans say the LT or OL, and this is the same shit that was said previously.

[url]https://x.com/Tiller56/status/1833256611290444172[/url]

So after watching the play, now see the field then tell me who's to blame:

[url]https://x.com/bettersportsiq/status/1833379235488272410[/url]

He had three fucking guys open and didn't throw the ball. The sack is on the QB.


Dude is a rookie, I get it and he'll grow into something we hopefully can build around. The one thing that has to stop immediately is the not sliding while running. He's not going to last the season if he continues that shit.

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Adults appear to be making the football decisions for the first time in 25 years. Relax!

Let’s be honest, Terry is the best player on the Offense. He would’ve been 3rd best WR on the Rg3 rookie year team behind Garçon and Moss.

If both tackles are getting beat in under 2.5 seconds, the QB doesn’t have much time to come off his first read. With that time limit, JD needs to have WR option that is going to win off the line consistently. Who on the team is that guy? This is a work in progress.

It works both ways, if we can get that type of pressure, it helps out secondary out tremendously. Unfortunately we don’t have a good LT or edge rusher.

Every single part of the offense is a work in progress.
I would rather JD run and control the play versus sit back and get killed in the pocket like he did on the play above.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1364428]Daron Payne
@94yne
Yall can’t hate me out the spot 🤷🏾*♂️ hate it or love it ima be me.[/quote]

huh

love these cryptic player tweets, can anyone decipher what he's talking about

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[quote=NC_Skins;1364440]Ok, so my real thoughts on this weekends game. It was pretty much what I expected to see. A bad defense with a rookie QB struggling to be a rookie QB. Defense was just trash, which I already predicted as much. Don't expect it to be any better unless we're playing a shitty team like the Giants next week.

Jayden Daniels: Well, the guy is already reminding me of RGIII and that's not good. Runs entirely too much, and doesn't know how to slide. You can tell he's not comfortable in the pocket, and he's holding onto the ball too long. This is a great example from Twitter:

So a user posts this and asks who's the blame on the play. 2.33 seconds and JD takes a sack. Well, most fans say the LT or OL, and this is the same shit that was said previously.

[url]https://x.com/Tiller56/status/1833256611290444172[/url]

So after watching the play, now see the field then tell me who's to blame:

[url]https://x.com/bettersportsiq/status/1833379235488272410[/url]

He had three fucking guys open and didn't throw the ball. The sack is on the QB.


Dude is a rookie, I get it and he'll grow into something we hopefully can build around. The one thing that has to stop immediately is the not sliding while running. He's not going to last the season if he continues that shit.[/quote]

This is a very good post. It is revealing - and, I think encouraging - to see that our receivers were getting open. I couldn't see that on the TV broadcast. I think you're being a bit harsh on JD because it was his first game and he faced a fierce pass rush all game long. Perhaps the coaches can come up with some ways to make things a little easier for JD like roll outs, more motion, or max protection until he catches up with the speed of the pro game. But what do I know?

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On a different note, I noticed that Lucas and Coleman split the reps at LT in the game. While I didn't pay full attention to Coleman every time but it seems like he held up pretty well, which is a good sign. If he keeps it up, I expect him to become fulltime LT later in the season.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1364426]The Lions are worse off than Washington when it comes to organizations. They could possibly be on the "right track" now, but overall they're a more shitty organization than the 'Skins.[/quote]

How so?

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Regarding Daniels, I'm not sure what some of you guys were expecting from him. It's going to take time, that was his first start on the road. What I did like was he didn't turn the ball over and the game didn't seem to be too big for him. Did he pull the ball down and run a bit too early a few times? Sure, but again, that's just something you have to expect from a rookie.

I'm expecting as the season goes on that the game will hopefully slow down and you'll see him get better w/ reading the field. But also I didn't like anything I saw from Kingsberry. To me he is a college coach at best.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1364461]How so?[/quote]

Re-read what I posted. The Lions are a known to be a shitty organization, and one of the worst organizations in pro football. Like I said, they appear to be on the "right track," but for many years they were considered a more crappier organization than the 'Skins.

Debate or argue as you like, but that is well known.

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[quote=MTK;1364457]huh

love these cryptic player tweets, can anyone decipher what he's talking about[/quote]

Right. "Ook ook..."

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[quote=GridIron26;1364460]On a different note, I noticed that Lucas and Coleman split the reps at LT in the game. While I didn't pay full attention to Coleman every time but it seems like he held up pretty well, which is a good sign. If he keeps it up, I expect him to become fulltime LT later in the season.[/quote]

If Coleman becomes the full-time starter at LT, then I hope Lucas will become the starter at RT. I think that would make our OL stronger.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1364463]Regarding Daniels, I'm not sure what some of you guys were expecting from him. It's going to take time, that was his first start on the road. What I did like was he didn't turn the ball over and the game didn't seem to be too big for him. Did he pull the ball down and run a bit too early a few times? Sure, but again, that's just something you have to expect from a rookie.

I'm expecting as the season goes on that the game will hopefully slow down and you'll see him get better w/ reading the field. But also I didn't like anything I saw from Kingsberry. To me he is a college coach at best.[/quote]

Tend to agree after week 1. Hopefully it changes but... just looked too much like last years playcalling. Masked by a more mobile/running qb.

Get it together kliff

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1364476]If Coleman becomes the full-time starter at LT, then I hope Lucas will become the starter at RT. I think that would make our OL stronger.[/QUOTE]


A - effing - men. Wylie was awful - graded out the worst on the O line. Most of the undersigned scrambles were because of pressure from his side. And that’s not on Cosmi who played well.


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Speaking of rookies, Mike Sainristil got beat just as bad anyone on defense.

Terrible first game

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[quote=Chico23231;1364485]Speaking of rookies, Mike Sainristil got beat just as bad anyone on defense.

Terrible first game[/quote]

Godwin is a good WR, good enough to make rookie CBs look silly.

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Definitely a lot of work to do. All the doom and gloom is just slightly out of place though, in my opinion. Some of you either had unreasonably high expectations, or you just don't remember or realize how good a team Tampa is. They throttled Philadelphia in the playoffs last year, and were just one score short of taking down the Lions on the road to go to the NFC championship game. This just wasn't a great matchup on the road in week 1. They have great receivers and they have a really good elusive QB. We have a rookie QB and a suspect secondary. To me, not a big surprise they won that match up.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1364463]Regarding Daniels, I'm not sure what some of you guys were expecting from him. It's going to take time, that was his first start on the road. What I did like was he didn't turn the ball over and the game didn't seem to be too big for him. Did he pull the ball down and run a bit too early a few times? Sure, but again, that's just something you have to expect from a rookie. [/quote]

I clearly stated this was game one and the road ahead is long and bright. I simply pointed out some mistakes that people would often attribute to OL, but in reality it's on the QB.

The biggest concern for me is his inability to slide properly. That could end his career if he keeps it up.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1364417]I don't know. I actually thought they were competitive. It was very apparent they had a rookie QB, the secondary was exploited at times, and they could have executed some things better, but I thought they were competitive. I didn't notice a lack of effort.

On D, they pressured Baker a lot, they just never completed the task. Kudos to Baker, he was like Houdini back there and he kept his eyes downfield and got the ball to his playmakers. I thought they did a good job against the run, overall.

On O, I thought they ran the ball effectively and the pass protection was sufficient. I just think JD was not seeing the field well, and he often bailed on the play too quickly. I would have liked to see him have more patience rather than just tuck and run everytime. He was also more inaccurate than expected. A lot of nerves I'm sure. That deep ball to Terry was overthrown by about 2 yards. Complete that - it's a TD, and who knows...

Like it has been said already, we all knew what the potential weaknesses were heading into week 1. It was a tough match up for this new team, week 1. I expect a much better performance in week 2 - all around. Week 1 is almost always a liar.[/quote]

I didn't see them as competitive at all. Baker toyed with them, they didn't punt the entire day and converted nearly every 3rd down. Washington was never in that game, they were not competitive IMO.

I was surprised. We all heard how Kingsbury gets off to fast starts, I thought it was very possible they had a game like in New Orleans 2012 where they suprised the defense with a new offense. I expected a defense that would fly to the ball, like the Bills last night.

Now I understand this team is not as talented as the Bills, not even close. But this is not last years team, so many new players. Yet they played just like all the other teams we have watched.

With all that said this was Game 1 against a good team that was playing as well as they can play. I realize fans and writers were made to look stupid by drawing conclussons after Game 1. I'm still optimistic about the future. I believe in this group.