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With Allen out for the season (& IR), that's a roster spot opening up, right? Elevate someone from PS or look at FA? My suspicion is the former.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1365882]It's not a matter of if there's a guy available its whether or not he can be better than what we have, especially for the price. There's a whole list of guys available, probably top of the list is Xavien Howard. But is any one of them an upgrade and/or not a big cap hit? Do we chase someone now that's likely to be here for 11 games at most, then possibly costing us with next years cap situation? If we can upgrade over BSJ and Forbes, then maybe its worth it. But I suspect Peters and Quinn have agreed to see how this year goes as is, then use the draft to fill the key DE and DB holes.[/quote]

Whether they act or not, I'm hearing the staff (front office and staff) are interested in making a trade before the deadline. I'm on board as I feel this team can win the division and potentially make some noise in the postseason.

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They are bringing in Kyle Fuller for a workout..... we need CB help badly.

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I thought Fulller was playing for someone. At this point why not?

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1365899]I thought Fulller was playing for someone. At this point why not?[/quote]

There are 2 Fuller's, our Fuller is playing for the Dolphins now. This is his brother that came in for a workout.

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Kyle Fuller has been out 2 years after torn ACL. Be interesting to see if he's fully fit, but given past performance, he could at least push the incumbents. And if we can get someone to trade for Forbes...

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1365905]Kyle Fuller has been out 2 years after torn ACL. Be interesting to see if he's fully fit, but given past performance, he could at least push the incumbents. And if we can get someone to trade for Forbes...[/quote]

Call up Philly, see if they got any more of those 3rd rounders they're looking to get rid of.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365906]Call up Philly, see if they got any more of those 3rd rounders they're looking to get rid of.[/quote]

Philly gave us a 3rd for Dotson

Adams a conditional 3rd and Cooper a 3rd round

Not bad

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[quote=Chico23231;1365917]Philly gave us a 3rd for Dotson

Adams a conditional 3rd and Cooper a 3rd round

Not bad[/quote]

We're winning at least 1 Super Bowl in the next 10 years.

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I am pretty sure I would be just fine with a big splash trade on the defensive side if it was someone who they thought would definitely stop the bleeding on defense, like a lock down man coverage corner, or a double digit sack monster...maybe both.

This team could be a true contender this year. Why not?

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Agreed, as long as we don't mortgage the future, what's the harm in aiming for a playoff run this year?

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1365943]I am pretty sure I would be just fine with a big splash trade on the defensive side if it was someone who they thought would definitely stop the bleeding on defense, like a lock down man coverage corner, or a double digit sack monster...maybe both.



This team could be a true contender this year. Why not?[/QUOTE]the question is who? what lockdown corner is on a team that would be willing to trade him for draft capital?

this is a serious inquiry, I don't know who is out there other than the NE CB and he doesn't seem worth it.

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Rumours circulating about Jones (Pats) and Newsome (Browns). Both 31, and neither exactly exciting. But that means likely low cost to the buying team.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1365943]I am pretty sure I would be just fine with a big splash trade on the defensive side if it was someone who they thought would definitely stop the bleeding on defense, like a lock down man coverage corner, or a double digit sack monster...maybe both.

This team could be a true contender this year. Why not?[/quote]

Those are exactly my thoughts.

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They can't fix the defense by making mid season trades. That's not happening. It's going to have to happen during the off season by drafting and adding a free agent or two.

In the meantime, get Davis back on the field and out him at his natural position. He can spell Wagner who got abused last week. He at least he adds some speed. Not a fan of just benching him. Seems kinda of useless sitting one of your best athletes.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1365946]t[B]he question is who[/B]? what lockdown corner is on a team that would be willing to trade him for draft capital?

this is a serious inquiry, I don't know who is out there other than the NE CB and he doesn't seem worth it.

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Greg Newsome? CLE just paid Ward plus their awful Watson contract, maybe they unload Newsome for draft capital

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[quote=skinsfan69;1365955]They can't fix the defense by making mid season trades. That's not happening. It's going to have to happen during the off season by drafting and adding a free agent or two.

In the meantime, get Davis back on the field and out him at his natural position. He can spell Wagner who got abused last week. He at least he adds some speed. Not a fan of just benching him. Seems kinda of useless sitting one of your best athletes.[/quote]

Being athletic isn't enough to be given the job. Maybe the coaches don't trust Davis to do his job accordingly.

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[quote=GridIron26;1365957]Being athletic isn't enough to be given the job. Maybe the coaches don't trust Davis to do his job accordingly.[/quote]

We've seen him play LB w/ very mixed results. But he can help, not saying he is a starter but just putting him in street clothes on gameday when your defense gets torched seems ridiculous. He's not a pass rusher. That's not his position. But he can blitz. He can run down ball carriers. He can run with tight ends.

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[quote=GridIron26;1365957]Being athletic isn't enough to be given the job. Maybe the coaches don't trust Davis to do his job accordingly.[/quote]

We've seen him play LB w/ very mixed results. But he can help, not saying he is a starter but just putting him in street clothes on gameday when your defense gets torched seems ridiculous. He's not a pass rusher. That's not his position. But he can blitz. He can run down ball carriers. He can run with tight ends.

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They outsmarted themselves last week. Preparing for run heavy is great but if you're thinking it .... so are they. That's why they had the better gameplan and kept decent balance but we're majority air attack with short, quick sometimes but mainly crossing routes. We bring a heavier front and look and they planned against that we'll. Live and learn.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1365373]I did some mock drafts last night. Huge difference from prior years in mind-set. This was to see how we can improve from good story to legitimate NFL threat. It's weird what elite QB play can do. With our crazy amount of cap space and 4 picks in the 1st 3 rounds, we have a chance to be a really really good football team in 2025. Looking at CB1, DE1, a Safety to pair with Quann Martin, and an OT.[/quote]

This year’s goal was to really see what we have, what our identity will be and also what pieces we truly need. Luckily JD5 has masked alot of flaws, but this upcoming draft and free agency in 2025 will be very impactful…knowing exactly the pieces to pick for the perfect ‘fit’ with the deeper understanding of our roster.

JD5 will be an exciting player many will want to play with, should provide us some advantages in free agency and mid season trades

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[quote=skinsfan69;1365955]They can't fix the defense by making mid season trades. That's not happening. It's going to have to happen during the off season by drafting and adding a free agent or two.

In the meantime, get Davis back on the field and out him at his natural position. He can spell Wagner who got abused last week. He at least he adds some speed. Not a fan of just benching him. Seems kinda of useless sitting one of your best athletes.[/quote]

After four years in the NFL Davis still doesn't have a clue about how to play the game of football. He represents another wasted draft pick of the Snyder era.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1365968]After four years in the NFL Davis still doesn't have a clue about how to play the game of football. He represents another wasted draft pick of the Snyder era.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I think it is clear that we would not have been any better off with Davis dressed than with him on the bench at this point.

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our coaches haven't shown hidden agendas... if he's not playing, it's probably for football reasons (i.e. not good enough).

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[quote=skinsfan69;1365955][B]They can't fix the defense by making mid season trades.[/B] That's not happening. It's going to have to happen during the off season by drafting and adding a free agent or two.

In the meantime, get Davis back on the field and out him at his natural position. He can spell Wagner who got abused last week. He at least he adds some speed. Not a fan of just benching him. Seems kinda of useless sitting one of your best athletes.[/quote]

I don't know about that. If there's someone out there that's a good fit, it's only week 7. The goal is to be clicking down the stretch, like seven games from now. There's no reason in the world why a good mid-season trade for the right player can't help this defense, even if that player can't contribute immediately.

Now I don't know if that player (or players) is out there and whether the price is right, but to just say: "nah, not interested in helping the defense this year", is a bad approach IMO.

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Right player, right price i would also not close the door completely. The D needs help in the secondary bad, I think possibly even more than an edge rusher sans being elite as hell which doesn't usually fall in the 'right price' category.

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Rumour of Forbes going to the Chargers. If that happens I'd certainly consider a trade with the Browns for Newsome. Not likely to cost much more than we get for Forbes, so no real impact on the 2025 draft ammunition. Can we get a quality pass rusher though? Put our hat in teh ring for Reddick? 🤔

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I am hoping Peters stuns us with a CB trade before the 5th. They have to be looking around, and he seems able to pull something off.

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Until this week I thought the odds were against a big trade, but I think the belief this game has given everyone is probably going to prompt him and Quinn to look for 1 or 2, maybe even 3 trades to boost our chances this year. Looking at the schedule, you can't ignore anyone, but they're all winnable games. The Giants now have to be sellers (Ojulari) and Browns are probably considering their CB room. Boost the OL too?

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Tell me who you are trading for now

2 players I’m gonna call about and offer first round picks for:

Jamar Chase…are not gonna get a deal done? Call and find out. We have the cap for a top 5 WR

Micah Parsons…loves Quinn and others have been taken care of on that roster. Call and offer a 1 and late round pick. Immediate extension

I’m big game hunting

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I'd love to see Jaycee Horn, but it seems that the Panthers are telling people he's untouchable. He felt like the most realistic target to me. While I think the makeshift defensive backfield has been a little better than I expected in recent weeks, I think the injection of an actual #1 corner would really help.

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[quote=Chico23231;1366485]Tell me who you are trading for now

2 players I’m gonna call about and offer first round picks for:

Jamar Chase…are not gonna get a deal done? Call and find out. We have the cap for a top 5 WR

Micah Parsons…loves Quinn and others have been taken care of on that roster. Call and offer a 1 and late round pick. Immediate extension

I’m big game hunting[/quote]

I don't see that Bengals giving up Chase, not to mention how it would upset Burrow. But Parsons is an intriguing suggestion. While he's not making noise, he deserves a deal and the Cowboys are going nowhere fast. He loves Quinn and if he dropped a trade demand on Jones, every chance they decide to take an offer. But trading to us?...

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1366494]I don't see that Bengals giving up Chase, not to mention how it would upset Burrow. But Parsons is an intriguing suggestion. While he's not making noise, he deserves a deal and the Cowboys are going nowhere fast. He loves Quinn and if he dropped a trade demand on Jones, every chance they decide to take an offer. But trading to us?...[/quote]Parsons on this team if healthy makes us a legitimate SB contender THIS year. He is that good and dominant. Love his endless motor and relentless pass rush. Definitely worth a call, however I highly doubt it would be answered.

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Lattimore? Saints are in cap hell and aren’t going anywhere this season.


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I think CB is the biggest need now. Not sure how easy it is to integrate a new player to the D though. (Or offense for that matter.)

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I would rank our trade probability (based on need) like this:

1. CB
2. DE
3. WR
4. OL

Phone lines are open...

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Give me Denzel Ward

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[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42154288/sources-players-want-traded-commanders-deadline"]Sources: Players want to be traded to Commanders at deadline[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1366520]Give me Denzel Ward[/quote]

I hope the Browns realize soon that they should be in selling mode. This would be an amazing pick up.

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Marshon Lattimore would be nice too

Saints have to be in blow it up mode you would think