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[quote=MTK;1377402]It’s shaping up to be one of those perfect storm seasons of injuries, tough schedule, and bad breaks.[/quote]

Yup

#17 back on the injury report per Keim

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[quote=mredskins;1377424]Yup

#17 back on the injury report per Keim[/quote]

Just trade him. Get his replacement next year. Very doubtful he plays much this year.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1377426]Just trade him. Get his replacement next year. Very doubtful he plays much this year.[/quote]

That's crazy talk. He's been very reliable until this year, and while this nagging quad injury is very frustrating, it isn't the kind of thing that suggests it will have a longer term effect, like a torn achilles or something like that. And as his two acrobatic catches from Monday night show, he's got plenty left in the tank. He's more valuable to us than we could get in a trade.

I get the frustration, especially after the holdout, but I do not think this is the answer.

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We sign him to a massive extension he has two injuries what do you realistically think we’d get for him? A ham sandwich?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1377428]We sign him to a massive extension he has two injuries what do you realistically think we’d get for him? A ham sandwich?[/quote]

i would think at least a ham and CHEESE sandwich

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If we lose this weekend, everyone on a one year deal and anyone who on a contract likely to get cut (Payne) in the offseason…I’m trying to trade. Try to stack picks.

Ertz, Lattimore (if we pay most the money for this year) Payne, would all have interest.

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[quote=Chico23231;1377433]If we lose this weekend, everyone on a one year deal and anyone who on a contract likely to get cut (Payne) in the offseason…I’m trying to trade. Try to stack picks.

Ertz, Lattimore (if we pay most the money for this year) Payne, would all have interest.[/quote]

I’m all 4 it but at 3-6; would the team be convinced to trade players? Or do they think they can turn things around.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1377435]I’m all 4 it but at 3-6; would the team be convinced to trade players? Or do they think they can turn things around.[/quote]

The problem with this years schedule is that we finish with 4 divisional games. And while it's doubtful we beat the Eagles or Cowboys at this stage, the Giants are beatable and Denver showed how beatable the Cowboys are. So, lets say we go into those last 4 games at 6-7. Who's to say that right now winning those 4 games wouldn't win us the division? Unlikely? Yes. Impossible? hell no.

If our HC and GM were to turn around to ownership and say we're giving up on the season at 3-5 so selling off what we can, I doubt they'd have a job at the end of the season. Just don't see a fire sale happening.

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Extending Terry Mclaurin was the biggest fucking mistake this front office made in the off-season. Man that was boneheaded looking at it now. Hopefully they'll learn a valuable lesson from this.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1377444]Extending Terry Mclaurin was the biggest fucking mistake this front office made in the off-season. Man that was boneheaded looking at it now. Hopefully they'll learn a valuable lesson from this.[/quote]

The mistake was not doing it early so he'd be in camp and in good spirits, ready to play and game fit. If we hadn't re-signed him and he'd held out, we'd be quite a degree worse off right now.

The other mistake was not better addressing WR in FA (even the draft?). Brown was a risk hanging #3 WR on, McCaffrey is looking solid as a #2/3, but was still something of an unknown, and Lane is probably going to work out well eventually, but may never be better than #3. We needed a player to push and complement Deebo and Scary.

OTOH with so many holes still to fill it's hard to say we could have done much better than we did, with what we had. Deebo wasn't a mistake, but Lattimore looks like he was. Those draft picks would have been useful in the spring in filling some gaps, probably WR and secondary. I suspect AP is regretting his own decision there.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1377444]Extending Terry Mclaurin was the biggest fucking mistake this front office made in the off-season. Man that was boneheaded looking at it now. Hopefully they'll learn a valuable lesson from this.[/quote]

Lol, this is 100% on the FO. They waited until toward the end of the training camp to negotiate contract with McLaurin. McLaurin said that there was little to no communication between his agent and the FO throughout the summer. If they had worked on the contract prior to the training camp, there's no doubt it would allow McLaurin to participate in the training camp to get his body into football shape.

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Sorry but Terry and his agents delusional demands were 100% the problem. In the end he ended up getting a very team friendly deal.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1377448]The other mistake was not better addressing WR in FA (even the draft?). Brown was a risk hanging #3 WR on, McCaffrey is looking solid as a #2/3, but was still something of an unknown, and Lane is probably going to work out well eventually, but may never be better than #3. We needed a player to push and complement Deebo and Scary. [/quote]

Will you fucking mother fuckers stop with this shit. It's about the dumbest fucking take one can have. They drafted a WR, they traded and got Deebo while having Terry on the roster. That's plenty. You can't have 109873497349734972439762 WRs just in case of injuries. If Higgins/Chase went down right now on the Bengals, you think their fans would be screaming about how they did nothing to address WR? Yeah, it would be a STUPID fucking thought.

Defense. I want you to repeat this fucking word 1,000 times and that's the ONLY thing that should be talked about from now until the draft. You can't always account for injuries, you can account for shitty talent.

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Burn. It. Down.

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We need to be sellers on Tuesday. Yeah, we probably won’t get much but pick up whatever we can.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1377584]We need to be sellers on Tuesday. Yeah, we probably won’t get much but pick up whatever we can.[/quote]

We don't have any real assets that anybody wants besides our QB. I doubt we could even ship off Terry at this point. That contract is an albatross and he's fucking injured the entire year so far. We're kinda fucked. Peters better not be shipping off any draft picks because we need as many as we can. If anything, he needs to be trading down from our spot, which will no doubt be in the top 10.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1377553]Will you fucking mother fuckers stop with this shit. It's about the dumbest fucking take one can have. They drafted a WR, they traded and got Deebo while having Terry on the roster. That's plenty. You can't have 109873497349734972439762 WRs just in case of injuries. If Higgins/Chase went down right now on the Bengals, you think their fans would be screaming about how they did nothing to address WR? Yeah, it would be a STUPID fucking thought.

Defense. I want you to repeat this fucking word 1,000 times and that's the ONLY thing that should be talked about from now until the draft. You can't always account for injuries, you can account for shitty talent.[/quote]

I'll excuse the abuse, given the current situation, but you're not reading what I wrote. I'm not talking about taking anything from addressing the D, they needed to address multiple areas of the team. I'm talking about going into he offseason with the view that Brown was our #3 WR and sticking with that. He's not been available, especially a lot of last year. We're now effectively signing guys off the street not to refill the WR room, but to play at #2 and #3. Having a dependable #3, especially as they didn't know where negotiation's with Scary would end up, was essential and AP dropped the ball (pun intended).

Yes D is P1, P2 and P3 because it wasn't addressed last year. But JD5 needs guys to throw to (and to be on the field himself). And if Sinnott isn't what they hoped he'd be, we need a pass catching TE too. if we rebuild the D and leave the O as is, we're no better off. It all needs looking at.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1377621]I'll excuse the abuse, given the current situation, but you're not reading what I wrote. I'm not talking about taking anything from addressing the D, they needed to address multiple areas of the team. I'm talking about going into he offseason with the view that Brown was our #3 WR and sticking with that. He's not been available, especially a lot of last year. We're now effectively signing guys off the street not to refill the WR room, but to play at #2 and #3. Having a dependable #3, especially as they didn't know where negotiation's with Scary would end up, was essential and AP dropped the ball (pun intended).

Yes D is P1, P2 and P3 because it wasn't addressed last year. But JD5 needs guys to throw to (and to be on the field himself). And if Sinnott isn't what they hoped he'd be, we need a pass catching TE too. if we rebuild the D and leave the O as is, we're no better off. It all needs looking at.[/quote]

I agree

Sinnot, McCaffery and Lane have been bad as receivers. That’s on Peters and Coaching.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1377621]I'll excuse the abuse, given the current situation, but you're not reading what I wrote. I'm not talking about taking anything from addressing the D, they needed to address multiple areas of the team. I'm talking about going into he offseason with the view that Brown was our #3 WR and sticking with that. He's not been available, especially a lot of last year. We're now effectively signing guys off the street not to refill the WR room, but to play at #2 and #3. Having a dependable #3, especially as they didn't know where negotiation's with Scary would end up, was essential and AP dropped the ball (pun intended).

Yes D is P1, P2 and P3 because it wasn't addressed last year. But JD5 needs guys to throw to (and to be on the field himself). And if Sinnott isn't what they hoped he'd be, we need a pass catching TE too. if we rebuild the D and leave the O as is, we're no better off. It all needs looking at.[/QUOTE]


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I would call teams today about Payne , Debo and Terry. Get what you can and move on

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1377633]I would call teams today about Payne , Debo and Terry. Get what you can and move on[/quote]

You aren't getting shit for Terry with that contract extension and the fact he hasn't really played the entire year. Hell, we would have to pay somebody to take us off our hands at this point. This is one thing I think the FO fucked up on. Should have shipped him out the moment they started with the stupid contract demands.

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The phones better be burning tonight and tomorrow.

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Better be busy today.

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I don't know what to expect. I can't expect any FO willing to touch Payne's contract for more than a 5th rounder. If we can get a 5th for Deebo take it. I am hearing rumors about Wylie probably a 6th-7th. None of it gets me excited. Not saying I don't think draft picks are useful but right now the track record in late rounds is TBD. Perhaps they can package them to get a better quality mid round pick a 4th or a higher 3rd?

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I doubt that Wylie and Allegretti ( the two whose names keep popping up) fetch more than a late pick swap (maybe 7th to a 5th for Wylie and less for Allegretti) -- which might not be bad. I don't see us trading Payne -- putting aside the challenge of his contract, he's the least of our worries and we'll need to have some guys to build around in the offseason and I think he's likely one of them. BTW, the fact that the Jags just traded picks for Jakobi Myers tells you a lot about how they value Dyami Brown at this point. I am not sure we lost much there for all the WR woes we've had this season.

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Dallas -- what a joke. Just traded for a LB from Cincy who has been getting less and less time on the field. Raiding the only D that's worse than yours -- well played, Jerry. (I know it's only a 7th rounder, but still.)

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nobody is trading with us lol we have no real talent to trade other than Terry and hes hurt

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Holy cow -- Sauce Gardner traded to the Colts.

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Sauce to the Colts for 2 x 1sts and a backup receiver. Colts really going for it!

Rumours around Igbinoghene, Wiley, Allegretti and Deebo. 4 or 5 picks in return in rd 5 and below? Aside from bundling those picks to get a 3rd, would we really benefit from offloading them? We down a 'starting' CB as it is and we don't want to kill all our QB's. We could be fielding scrubs next week!

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1377752]Sauce to the Colts for 2 x 1sts and a backup receiver. Colts really going for it!

Rumours around Igbinoghene, Wiley, Allegretti and Deebo. 4 or 5 picks in return in rd 5 and below? Aside from bundling those picks to get a 3rd, would we really benefit from offloading them? We down a 'starting' CB as it is and we don't want to kill all our QB's. We could be fielding scrubs next week![/quote]

I am not down for trading for the sake of trading but if there is a game plan and value then absolutely.

IMO for example if we are offered a 6th for Deebo I'm not pulling the trigger.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1377753]I am not down for trading for the sake of trading but if there is a game plan and value then absolutely.

IMO for example if we are offered a 6th for Deebo I'm not pulling the trigger.[/quote]

Agreed and I am glad we didn't do anything like that. I am a pretty big fan of Deebo and would love to see what he can do with a real and healthy #1 opposite him and a healthy QB1 (which, let's face it, we haven't had all season). I wonder if we had inquiries about any of our players and, if so, what we demanded.

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AP had as productive day as the US Govt

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The Jets are cleaning house.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1377757]The Jets are cleaning house.[/quote]

And loading up on 26 and 27 draft picks.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1377758]And loading up on 26 and 27 draft picks.[/quote]

To waste no doubt.

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The Jets realize they are 3 to 4+ years away from really competing, so why pay those big contracts. Actually think its pretty smart on their part.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1377760]The Jets realize they are 3 to 4+ years away from really competing, so why pay those big contracts. Actually think its pretty smart on their part.[/quote]

I agreed -- they're stockpiling a bunch of high value picks. 3 years from now, that is going to be a very different team if (and it's a big if) they don't squander them. Heck, they'll have so many high picks that if they decide to trade back a few spots to acquire more picks, they could practically draft themselves a whole new team. Their main problem, like ours used to be, is the owner. So glad those days are behind us.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1377444]Extending Terry Mclaurin was the biggest fucking mistake this front office made in the off-season. Man that was boneheaded looking at it now. Hopefully they'll learn a valuable lesson from this.[/quote]

hopefully the fans too . . . the fans were out in masses say "just sign the man" . . .

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My question to the Jets is this, do we really trust the regime who picked Justin Fields to pick the next QB in the draft?

Sauce and g Wilson were great picks…but picking the QB in NY is a whole different ball game