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[QUOTE=htownskinfan]Matty,looking at my post,it now seems a little snotty,i'm just frustrated with this team,a lot of times we win the stat wars,except for the ones that count most,turnovers,s.o.s,s.o.s.a.d.{aerosmith}[/QUOTE]

But in the end we won the only category that matters, and that's the W-L column.

I think looking at the numbers does indeed mean something. Last year we struggled to put up points and struggled to even move the ball or get big plays. Today we moved the ball, controlled the clock and had a couple of big plays. The points weren't there, and of course that has to improve, but to just look at the score and assume the offense is garbage is a pretty ignorant view to take in my opinion.

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Dallas just scored to go up 28-24. If we only score 9 points next Monday, we're gonna get crushed.

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You're absolutely right, Matty! I'm laughing my butt off at some of these responses! You would have thought we lost today.

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I watched the entire game and was impressed with the play calling. I didn't really think Gibbs was as conservative as last year, and we WERE continually moving the ball downfiled. Ramsey doesn't get collered and we win 16- 7. Stop being so pessimistic, we won today, we started out the season the way we wanted to. They're gonna look at game film, asses, correct and improve for little D and the Tuna. I think we're gonna give those girls a run for their money

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Portis needs to run like hell next week. We've got to beat Dallas, who just upset the Chargers.

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Is it possible that our offense isn't really that bad, and that Chicago, as much as we don't want to admit it, as a team isn't that bad either? Both of these teams will probably get better as the season wears on.

That being said I was disappointed with the lack of scoring today and the lack of defensive pass rush. But overall pleased with a win! Wins in the NFL are tough to come by and we just can't chalk up a win just because we think the other team just isn't as good as our home team. Ask Carolina, the Jets, and a few other teams that had horrible showings today.

I do think Brunell will get the nod next week, however. I think the only way Gibbs can truly remedy this thing hanging over this clubs' head is to trade either Ramsey or 'Scott' Brunell. hehehe

Oh, and I think we definitley got the best of the Moss/Coles deal. And Smoot and Co. didn't look so hot in Minnasota did they?

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i think smoot had an interception in his minnesota gamer.

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Well the Chargers struggled today as they did all last year to put up a pass rush, and that will be a key to our game next Monday, we gotta pressure Bledsoe.

I hate to say it but Dallas' D looked pretty good, Brees was under a lot of pressure.....
but you can also say the Chargers gave that game against Dallas away.......3 STUPID STUPID penalties in 3rd down situations that gave Dallas a first down each time....
we can't do the same thing.......gotta play smart
:dallas:

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The Chargers have a pretty good defense, but I think our defense will be better at frustrating Bledsoe. We like to give a lot of looks and I think Williams is smart enough to know that pressure kills Bledsoe. You can bet that Williams will be closely studying the Chargers-Cowboys game film and will adapt his scheme to keep the Cowboys from scoring fewer than 28 points.

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on the 3 and 6 they could have won the game with a first down a field goal would have beat us a win is a win beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas beat dallas go RAMSEY

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It was awesome to celebrate my b-day today with a Skins win, which u wouldn't think is what happened if u read a lot of posts today. Skins d-line definitely needs to create more pressure and unless fully cleared to play, I think Gibbs sticks with Brunnel cuz Ramsey took a seriously wicked shot that could have lingering effects for a week or so. I'm definitely excited by the big plays of Moss and seeing Portis break a couple of nice runs. And we could easily make some complaints about the officiating today, but I think the team should be pretty confident in their chances next week, especially on the defensive side and with the offense knowing that they can move the ball against a pretty good defense, but they need to develop that killer instinct when they close upon the redzone. :dallas:

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]It was awesome to celebrate my b-day today with a Skins win, which u wouldn't think is what happened if u read a lot of posts today. Skins d-line definitely needs to create more pressure and unless fully cleared to play, I think Gibbs sticks with Brunnel cuz Ramsey took a seriously wicked shot that could have lingering effects for a week or so. I'm definitely excited by the big plays of Moss and seeing Portis break a couple of nice runs. And we could easily make some complaints about the officiating today, but I think the team should be pretty confident in their chances next week, especially on the defensive side and with the offense knowing that they can move the ball against a pretty good defense, but they need to develop that killer instinct when they close upon the redzone. :dallas:[/QUOTE]

Happy B day Skinsfanthru&thru.........

:dallas:

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Undefeated!!!!

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I could careless about moving the ball. FDs aren't going to cut it...especially when facing good teams.

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[QUOTE=saden1]I could careless about moving the ball. FDs aren't going to cut it...especially when facing good teams.[/QUOTE]
amen to that

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The fact of the matter is we won, and that's great. The other fact is we will improve as the season progresses. I think the Cowboys D is worse than the Bears and their O is much, much better. So next week like every week after that we need to play better D, and better O. This is the first game of the season and if Gibbs is smart he will stick with Ramsey and let continuity set into place.

The bottom line is that we won an ugly game but a win is a win. If we win every game in an ugly fashion I will still be happy.

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Surprised by the HYPER negativity from some of the posts here. No one is saying that we looked good today on offense--if your offense gets no TDs, you don't look good, period. But the season didn't just end today beacuse of our O play. The O-line looks a lot better; Moss is a legit threat; and Portis ran for 121 on a very strong D that was stacking the run. Maybe, just maybe, those trends will continue and the points will come. I know your faith has been shaken by last year's play, so you assume we're just the same as we were. But I don't think that's the case.

Look, no one is happy with 9 points. But that was one game (a win, at that). Maybe we'll get better? I know--I'm seeing the glass as half full here. But y'all (and you know who I'm talking about in this thread) aren't even seeing it as half empty. You're seeing it as bone dry. And its way too early for that.

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[QUOTE=skinnyfan]Are you wanting to live in the past or the now....last year is last year. And we don't play Minnesota this year....did you see what Tampa did to them?? I hate this sh**. You guys prove me wrong somewhere down the road and we'll talk. We CAN"T SCORE POINTS. And this is no different than last year. Did you also see what KC did to the Jets offense.......oh yeah.....shut them out. If there is any way to make negative points, we would be able to do it.[/QUOTE]

uh, you said we couldn't hang with them, i answer by saying "well, judging by last year we can" and then you bring up some BS about living in the past?

Either you're not paying attention or you're being an a-hole.

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[QUOTE=JWsleep]Surprised by the HYPER negativity from some of the posts here. No one is saying that we looked good today on offense--if your offense gets no TDs, you don't look good, period. But the season didn't just end today beacuse of our O play. The O-line looks a lot better; Moss is a legit threat; and Portis ran for 121 on a very strong D that was stacking the run. Maybe, just maybe, those trends will continue and the points will come. I know your faith has been shaken by last year's play, so you assume we're just the same as we were. But I don't think that's the case.

Look, no one is happy with 9 points. But that was one game (a win, at that). Maybe we'll get better? I know--I'm seeing the glass as half full here. But y'all (and you know who I'm talking about in this thread) aren't even seeing it as half empty. You're seeing it as bone dry. And its way too early for that.[/QUOTE]

I agree.

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[QUOTE=saden1]I could careless about moving the ball. FDs aren't going to cut it...especially when facing good teams.[/QUOTE]

That goes without saying.

All I'm saying is there are some positives we can take away from this game. The scoreboard doesn't always tell the entire story.

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The scoreboard does tell the story for this one. This offense is pathetic and the D is good. Luckily the skins played a team with an equally pathetic O. This team is in big trouble when they play teams that actually have good offenses and defenses.

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Perhaps I'm looking too far into things, but the offense did pile up 323 yards. That's not exactly pathetic. We need to improve in the redzone, that's the key.

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9 points is pathetic yards dont mean anything.. The skins racked up lots of yards last year and Portis had good games early last season also. IMO this team looks just like last year's and that's not good.

I'll say that this was a W and if the skins get 12 of them nobody will care what happened yesterday but when I look at this game and ask 'does this team look like a playoff contender?' The answer after week 1 is 'no way'.

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[QUOTE=irish]9 points is pathetic yards dont mean anything.. The skins racked up lots of yards last year and Portis had good games early last season also. IMO this team looks just like last year's and that's not good.

I'll say that this was a W and if the skins get 12 of them nobody will care what happened yesterday but when I look at this game and ask 'does this team look like a playoff contender?' The answer after week 1 is 'no way'.[/QUOTE]

lol, that's just about what tony K said on 980 about 5 minutes ago :P

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I agree with Irish. While the offense looked updated and less predictable, I'm still curious if we can punch it into the endzone. After watching the SD Dal game, we're going to have to put up some points to beat all 3 of our division rivals. NYG, Dal, and the Eagles always can put up points.

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The summary The Post had on the front page said it all. 5 trips inside the 20 and onlly 9 points, although the last trip inside the 20 we ran out the clock. This is terrible. I don't think even Gibbs thinks the offense is that good. On the last field goal it was fourth and goal from inside the 1 and he still chose a field goal over a potential touchdown. It's scary to me that this is a supposed 're-tooled' offense. On the plus side there were less penalties and we did dominate time of possesion. If this offense doesn't ignite and score points soon then we're looking at 6-10 again.

DJDunick

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I DO agree we need to put up some points, I think however, if we can cut down on stupid penalties and turnovers, we will be on the winning side of a lot of 14-3, 17-10 ballgames. It's those penalties and turnovers that kill us. I have full reason to be believe the offense will get going, but if it doesn't I like our odds if we can play mistake-free football and let the defense win it for us.

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[QUOTE=djdunick]MattyK,

I wish I shared your enthusiasm for the offense. The summary The Post had on the front page said it all. 5 trips inside the 20 and onlly 9 points, although the last trip inside the 20 we ran out the clock. This is terrible. I don't think even Gibbs thinks the offense is that good. On the last field goal it was fourth and goal from inside the 1 and he still chose a field goal over a potential touchdown. It's scary to me that this is a supposed 're-tooled' offense. On the plus side there were less penalties and we did dominate time of possesion. If this offense doesn't ignite and score points soon then we're looking at 6-10 again.

DJDunick[/QUOTE]

I understand your concern about him kicking the field goal, but do you think we would have won if we hadn't? He was planning on letting the D win the game for us.

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I realize it wouldn't be football season unless the sky was falling, but I don't think the 9 points from yesterday will be indicative of our output this season.

We ended up playing with a QB that took few snaps in practice with the first team this year. He was also running a gameplan suited to the strengths of his predecesor - or do you think Brunell will be rolling right a lot if (God forbid) he starts this week?

If Brunell does have to start, let's hope it's clearly an injury thing, and not a confidence thing. After Ramsey's pick, the staff showed a lot of faith in him by calling four straight pass plays. Hopefully, that faith will carry over.

Bottom line, is we won a game with a backup QB - the stats shouldn't enter into the equation. Of course the passing game didn't look sharp - the QB for the majority of the snaps didn't practice well. Of course the running game wasn't as good as we'd hoped - the Bears D felt even more comfortable stacking the line after the switch.

My only real problem was with Brown's fumble. A kickoff fumble is a huge reaking deal when it's your only job. The next kickoff was Thrash and Betts. Brown ought to be either praying or packing right now.

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[QUOTE=djdunick]The summary The Post had on the front page said it all. 5 trips inside the 20 and onlly 9 points, although the last trip inside the 20 we ran out the clock. This is terrible. I don't think even Gibbs thinks the offense is that good. On the last field goal it was fourth and goal from inside the 1 and he still chose a field goal over a potential touchdown. It's scary to me that this is a supposed 're-tooled' offense. On the plus side there were less penalties and we did dominate time of possesion. If this offense doesn't ignite and score points soon then we're looking at 6-10 again.

DJDunick[/QUOTE]
Hey, Walt.

I would like to believe that if the field goal didn't give us the lead, we would have played that 4th and goal differently. It's better to be up two than down one, regardless of your opponent's field position - especially given the way our defense played.

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Gibbs said he didn't want to walk away from that 4th and 1 without the lead and I agree. Kicking the FG isn't the sexy decision but in the end it was the right call.

Yes the redzone offense needs to improve, but we are at least moving the ball which is something we couldn't say last year.

We also had 3 plays over 20 yards, that's just off the top of my head, the Portis 41 yard run, Moss's 52 yard catch and run, and Cooley's 23 yard grab. Could be more I'm forgetting.

We had two really good shots at TDs that went awry. Cooley got called for the PI, that was a call that could have gone either way, he got locked up with the defender, could have easily been called the other way. Later on Cooley makes the catch to set up the 4th and 1, if he pushes his route just a little deeper that's 6.

We could be talking about a 17-0 win today if those two situations worked out.

Unfortunately they didn't. We need improvement no doubt and a serious reduction of turnovers. Regardless, I'm still encouraged by the offense moving the ball and making big plays. We also saw multiple WR sets and a running game better suited for Portis. The improvements are there, now we just need the execution.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]uh, you said we couldn't hang with them, i answer by saying "well, judging by last year we can" and then you bring up some BS about living in the past?

Either you're not paying attention or you're being an a-hole.[/QUOTE]

Not sure I care what you are saying? We suck....bottom line. And you keep coming up with excuses as to why we are going to be good and keep getting disappointed......don't call me an a hole again.

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What happened to the head-hunting rule or the horse-collar rule in the NFL. Where were the officials when Ramsey got clocked. That was the most fragrant hit I've seen in years. That just supports my theory that the Skins do not get the calls. Ramsey was off to a decent start before he got his bell rung. Also, the offensive pass interference call on the touchdown that was called back was bogus.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Because this is the NFL not Madden. Why kick a FG... just to rub it in?

As for running the ball with 2 min left, you do that to make the Bears burn their timeouts.[/QUOTE]

I think they only had like 1 td left and I disagree with that play call, that would have been the perfect oportunity for a playaction that stretched the field and got the 1st

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on that fourth and 1 on the goalline i believe we should've gone for it. as for cooley's pi call, i think that was the right choice. either way, we won.

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[QUOTE=skinnyfan]Not sure I care what you are saying? We suck....bottom line. And you keep coming up with excuses as to why we are going to be good and keep getting disappointed......don't call me an a hole again.[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen, please keep it civil.

If you're going to make statements like 'We suck' at least post proof or substantiate to some degree. 'We suck' brings nothing to the forum.

Thank you for your kind attention in this matter.

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Any of you guys notice that after A. Brown fumbled that Ladell Betts returned the next Kick Off. I would Let Ladell return them from now on. A. Brown even scares me on Punt Returns, because he doesn't call Fair Catch when guys are all over him. That is really scary! He may have speed, but he can't break a tackle at all. The first guy that makes the least bit of contact on him, knocks him down. I want Ramsey against the Cowboys like the rest of you guys posting on this thread, but Gibbs may go with Brunell and try to win ugly again next week. One more thing, WE NEED TURNOVERS!!! Especially against Dallas if we hope to win on the road. Our beloved Skins are not good enough to beat Dallas if we don't win the turnover ratio next Monday.

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I think that Brown had enough of a learning experience to stay with him for a while. He's a great return man, like Hall in KC. Just you watch.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]I think that Brown had enough of a learning experience to stay with him for a while. He's a great return man, like Hall in KC. Just you watch.[/QUOTE]

I think return men have to have a mentality similar to cornerbacks. They have to be able to forget everything that has happened on bad plays and focus on the next play. Just like a cornerback, if a return man's confidence is shaken, he's going to fall apart quickly. You see it at least once a year in the NFL - a formerly solid return man fumbles a kickoff or punt, and suddenly he has hands like feet for the rest of the game.

The coaches will have to determine Brown's confidence level and make a decision based on that.

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If A Brown puts the ball on the ground again, he's toast. That's 2 in close games (Dallas and Chicago)--it cannot happen.

Here's a dissapoiting thing about yesterday--and I know this is pissing off Gibbs big time. We tried over the offseason to fix (among other things) 3 glaring problems--TOs, stupid penalties, and special teams. Yesterday, we lost the TO battle, had a TD taken away on a penalty, and had a special teams fumble and a 2 pnealties that completly altered the field position situation. When you stress things, you'd like to see improvment! Gibbs said something in his press conference like, "we're going to consider some different ways to get these points across." Hope they figure it out, because this is the difference (along with the redzone stuff). Still, these are fixable things in our own hands, so there's hope yet.