Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

You know, I'll bet there's about a million fans out there accross america that would like him to stay. I could spare ten bucks...

If everyone else could... it may be worth his while! I just don't want to see all of the hard work that gibbs, buges, breaux, and williams, and the players have been putting in over the last couple of years be for nothing. As fans we've been buying and spending our money on all of the goddamn merchandise, and tickets and stadium beer for years to see our team get our hopes up and fall short... and now we're possibly on the verge of another dominant term among the NFC's best and I don't want anything to start over.

Belickeck (spelling?) had his big O and D coordinators leave and he's doing all right, but our D has been our backbone while the offense is up and down. Our coaching staff right now other than williams, blanche, etc.. is primarily geared for offense, and I'm not sure how much of the intensity and planning would remain if he left.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

THere is a good article about all this by Wise at the Post: [URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/19/AR2005121901784.html]A Williams Exit Would Be Well Planned[/URL]

My bet is Williams will go, because he is going to be offered a "whatever you want" deal somewhere. He's got something to prove: that's he's not just a great coordinator, but a great head coach on the NFL. It's only if he's already decided to give it a serious SB run with Gibbs, come what may, that he'll stay.

I agree that the real question is about Blache and the assistants.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

i have a sinking feeling he'll leave. and it won't be about money.

one of the things he was asked on 60 seconds w/Gregg Williams was to describe Gibbs in one word. he might've just had an argument with him but he said "Prideful" right away, in a kind of bad way. "Proud" is the good way to say it.

Williams is a much more aggressive personality than Gibbs, they keep their sides so separate, not necessarily a bad thing - and who could blame him after last year - but there might be some actual division there.

Williams is not a shy guy, he doesn't want to be a coordinator for long. who knows maybe his title Head Coach - Defense was his idea. He's a proud man too and i think a guy like him would want his legacy to be like Marvin Lewis's; take a whole new team to a whole new level.

i dont think he'd be happy headcoaching to the superbowl with "Joe Gibbs's Offense". sorta like Gruden winning with "Tony Dungy's team", even though this is totally HIS defense. i hope i'm 100% wrong, but you can just tell he's bottled up a bit here.

hope the team, the fans, Snyder and Gibbs do everything they can to make him stay, and i hope its enough.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

My gut says he stays one more year to see if he can finish what he started here.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

I think if we won the Super Bowl this year, he'd probably leave. Something tells me that until that happens, he'd probably not get the "right" deal as a head coach at this point right now.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]My gut says he stays one more year to see if he can finish what he started here.[/QUOTE]

While we understand GWs importance to the teams success I'm not sure the average fan does and any success this team does have this year will be credited to Gibbs with GW and Bugel getting mentions as helping out. So I think most people see everything realted to this team as what Gibbs started not what GW started for the simple reason Gibbs is head coach.

GW is from MO and if either of those teams offers him the head coach job he will take it to go back home.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

Here is what I would like to see, and I cant think of any reason why it would be against league policies.

Snyder should sign Williams to a contract paying head coach money (lord knows he can afford it, and it has no cap effect) that explicitly states that Williams will immediately become head coach upon Gibbs' retirement (cant be more than 5 or so years down the line).

That way Williams gets to keep learning under a hall of fame coach, keep putting together his team (with an owner who will spend the money), and take over a team that is in great shape that he has 3-5 years of his fingerprints on.

Why would any party to this agreement (Williams, Snyder or Gibbs) NOT want to do this?

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

[QUOTE=amorentz]Here is what I would like to see, and I cant think of any reason why it would be against league policies.

Snyder should sign Williams to a contract paying head coach money (lord knows he can afford it, and it has no cap effect) that explicitly states that Williams will immediately become head coach upon Gibbs' retirement (cant be more than 5 or so years down the line).

That way Williams gets to keep learning under a hall of fame coach, keep putting together his team (with an owner who will spend the money), and take over a team that is in great shape that he has 3-5 years of his fingerprints on.

Why would any party to this agreement (Williams, Snyder or Gibbs) NOT want to do this?[/QUOTE]

He's already being paid HC type money. Not sure what the #'s are exactly, but the word is he's very well compensated here.

As far as an agreement to take over for Gibbs that's fine and dandy, but you can't realistically expect Williams to wait another 3 years.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

[QUOTE=irish]While we understand GWs importance to the teams success I'm not sure the average fan does and any success this team does have this year will be credited to Gibbs with GW and Bugel getting mentions as helping out. So I think most people see everything realted to this team as what Gibbs started not what GW started for the simple reason Gibbs is head coach.

GW is from MO and if either of those teams offers him the head coach job he will take it to go back home.[/QUOTE]

Like I said, just a gut feeling.

I don't think any of us know what's going to happen, only GW knows and right now I'm sure he's focused on the task at hand.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

I think he stays for one more. After that all bets are off.

I would like to see Blache and Lindsay stay if he left, however.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

Yeah, Matty. He's paid more than a majority of the head coaches in the league. There's going to be a point (probably in the very near future) where the organization has to decide if it's going to keep going with Gibbs or if it will hand the reins to Williams or watch him walk. No person wants to bea coordinator when the glory jobs are out there. There will be lots of teams, even some with some talent (Detroits defense could be pretty nasty under a Williams defense and a couple changes) that he could take over.

I bet he's gone after this year.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

[QUOTE=12thMan]I think he stays for one more. After that all bets are off.

I would like to see Blache and Lindsay stay if he left, however.[/QUOTE]

Blache would be the logical successor to Williams and a very fine one at that... as long as GW doesn't steal him away that is. But like the Wise article in the WP said, GW probably wouldn't do that to Gibbs. But then again, it is a business so who knows.

Blache will likely be a HC in this league someday too.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

Alot of this could depend on if we make the playoffs, and how far into the playoffs we go. If we can get to the Divisional or conference championship rounds, alot of vacancies could be filled by then. That was a big reason Charlie Wies and Romeo Cronell had to wait so long to get head coaching jobs.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

[QUOTE=Daseal]Yeah, Matty. He's paid more than a majority of the head coaches in the league. There's going to be a point (probably in the very near future) where the organization has to decide if it's going to keep going with Gibbs or if it will hand the reins to Williams or watch him walk. No person wants to bea coordinator when the glory jobs are out there. There will be lots of teams, even some with some talent (Detroits defense could be pretty nasty under a Williams defense and a couple changes) that he could take over.

I bet he's gone after this year.[/QUOTE]

I have a feeling the organization won't be making the decision on when Gibbs leaves his head coaching post, and would not boot 'em out for the sake of keeping GW.

Re: Greg Williams
 

[QUOTE=NFLNetwork]Do you guys think Greg Williams is going to leave after this year? A lot of people say he is, please tell me no!![/QUOTE]

For the answer to your question, please use the little gray scrollbar to your right and scroll on up to read the entire damn thread.

Re: Greg Williams
 

[QUOTE=mheisig]For the answer to your question, please use the little gray scrollbar to your right and scroll on up to read the entire damn thread.[/QUOTE]

His post was a new thread that was merged into this one.

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

We win the Super bowl next season, Gibbs retires like Wyle E. Coyote (super-genius). GW takes the team. It has been pre-arranged and pre-ordained

Re: (Merged Thread) Greg Williams Gone After 2005?
 

I really hope GW stays next year.

Luckily we still have other things to worry about this year.