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Here's some news about Bradford for all of you that have a boner for him...

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[quote=Dirtbag359;663269]Read this and tell me thats not spot on. To me it's scary how accurate this is. From the positives with accuracy on short to intermediate routes to the problems with deep ball accuracy.[/quote]As a four year college starter, you wouldn't expect them to miss much. That's pretty much the principle that all rookie QB projection systems are built on.

He's a lot quicker in his reads than he was under Saunders. The offense Saunders had him running though was not Jason Campbell. His rate statistics make him look like a completely different player in that offense.

The Zorn-era Campbell is pretty much consistent with his college projection. Of course, Auburn could handle a three man rush, and Ronnie Brown/Carnell Williams weren't exactly no-production prima donas. If nothing else, Zorn certainly didn't scale anything back for him (which I certainly wouldn't say about ThomasKelly).

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[quote=GTripp0012;664627]The Zorn-era Campbell is pretty much consistent with his college projection.[/quote]

You know what i found impressive about JC's senior year?

He had a 10 yard per [I]attempt[/I] not per completion per [I]attempt[/I] i'm not a historian but that's pretty sick and he maintained 69% completion.
I know the scouting report said deep ball issues but he must have been money on the deep intermediate routes because you're doing something right when you have 10 YPA and 69% comp.

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[quote=53Fan;664633]Stay The Course: Thursday And Long-Redskins Shouldn't Be Drafting A QB

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Good article...nothing new but still pretty convincing. Honestly my best case scenario, the thing I'd like to see, is JC have a Pro-Bowl season in the B & G this year behind a totally revamped line.

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[quote=The Goat;664694]Good article...nothing new but still pretty convincing. Honestly my best case scenario, the thing I'd like to see, is JC have a [B]Pro-Bowl season [/B]in the B & G this year behind a totally revamped line.[/quote]

Won't happen, if he were behind the Jets OL :smashfrea

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[quote=CultBrennan59;664746]Won't happen, if he were behind the Jets OL :smashfrea[/quote]

The Jets offensive line could make YOU look like a good QB if you play behind them.

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[quote=Ruhskins;664749]The Jets offensive line could make YOU look like a good QB if you play behind them.[/quote]

No, and they couldn't make Campbell either...by the way Russell Okung from Oklahoma State has been getting strong comparisons to D'Brickashaw Ferguson, would that be a good enough OLineman for a Zone blocking shanahan offense?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;664753][B]No, and they couldn't make Campbell either[/B]...by the way Russell Okung from Oklahoma State has been getting strong comparisons to D'Brickashaw Ferguson, would that be a good enough OLineman for a Zone blocking shanahan offense?[/quote]

Really? How are you so sure? Okung is the best tackle out there, and even we don't draft Okung, Davis could be another option. You do know that Left Tackle is right up there with QB as one the most important positions for a team, and one that is worth drafting in the top 5?

Are you so obsessed with Bradford that you would pass on the best tackle of the draft? In case you haven't noticed, the last time the Redskins drafted a first round tackle, I think it worked out fine.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;664753]No, and they couldn't make Campbell either...by the way Russell Okung from Oklahoma State has been getting strong comparisons to D'Brickashaw Ferguson, would that be a good enough OLineman for a Zone blocking shanahan offense?[/quote]

Sanchez threw 20 INTs behind the best line in the NFL and with only having to throw 10-15 times a game.

Campbell threw half that many behind the worst line in the league and being relied on completely because we were always losing and couldn't run the ball.

Switch places and Campbell would have been a Pro Bowler easily and Sanchez would be a vegetable after Week 8's 35th INT.

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[quote=Buster;664846]Sanchez threw 20 INTs behind the best line in the NFL and with only having to throw 10-15 times a game.

Campbell threw half that many behind the worst line in the league and being relied on completely because we were always losing and couldn't run the ball.

Switch places and Campbell would have been a Pro Bowler easily and Sanchez would be a vegetable after Week 8's 35th INT.[/quote]

The Bradford camp doesn't believe in offensive lines. They just get in the way of QBs. :doh:

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[quote=Ruhskins;664849]The Bradford camp doesn't believe in offensive lines. They just get in the way of QBs. :doh:[/quote]

You're right. You're 100% right. I'm really hoping we don't make any trades, don't sign any free agents, simply skip out on making any other selections during the draft and that we just pick Bradford at #4 and go home. It would totally piss me off if we sign Ben Hamilton as a FA, draft an LT like Brown, Campbell, or Fox at the top of the 2nd round, trade into the 3rd and pick up an RT like Calloway, spend a 4th on an interior lineman...that would really grind my gears. Because all I want is Sam Bradford and nothing else. After all, the off-season is all about the 1st round pick and nothing else, isn't it?

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[quote=SmootSmack;664860]You're right. You're 100% right. I'm really hoping we don't make any trades, don't sign any free agents, simply skip out on making any other selections during the draft and that we just pick Bradford at #4 and go home. It would totally piss me off if we sign Ben Hamilton as a FA, draft an LT like Brown, Campbell, or Fox at the top of the 2nd round, trade into the 3rd and pick up an RT like Calloway, spend a 4th on an interior lineman...that would really grind my gears. Because all I want is Sam Bradford and nothing else. After all, the off-season is all about the 1st round pick and nothing else, isn't it?[/quote]

Yeah, but they could also pick up Okung with the #4, and a solid RT with #2 or in the later rounds, and you have your tackles for the next 10 years (if everything works out).

While I get what you are doing, you're one of the few people in the Bradford camp that actually makes an argument on how to build the line and drafting Bradford, without saying "Shanahan is know to build offensive lines with just about anyone."

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[quote=Ruhskins;664864]Yeah, but they could also pick up Okung with the #4, and a solid RT with #2 or in the later rounds, and you have your tackles for the next 10 years (if everything works out).

While I get what you are doing, you're one of the few people in the Bradford camp that actually makes an argument on how to build the line and drafting Bradford, [B]without saying "Shanahan is know to build offensive lines with just about anyone."[/B][/quote]

I agree with you about that reasoning. We keep hearing that Shanahan can turn any lineman (or back) into a solid performer. If that were true, Denver would have been #1 in offense every single year. I'm willing to give Shanahan somewhat of a pass in respect to his expertise but the "he can turn anyone..." arguments are dangerous and mistaken.

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[quote=Ruhskins;664864]Yeah, but they could also pick up Okung with the #4, and a solid RT with #2 or in the later rounds, and you have your tackles for the next 10 years (if everything works out). [/quote]When do we get the elite QB to get us to a SB contention level? If we get the OL this draft and our D performs in the top half of the league, we're a .500 team. It's extremely unlikey an elite QB hits FA. If we're at .500 we're picking in the 14-18 range, no elite QB prospects there for 2011. So do we continue to have average QB play and try to build a dominant D and run game (Ravens/Jets/2000 Ravens/2002 Bucs)? How do we get past .500 to SB contention level without an elite QB?