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[quote=NLC1054;810147]Or Devin Thomas. Or Marko Mitchell. Or Brandon Lloyd...[/quote]

How are you just gonna dis Anthony Mix like that?

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Moss will go up for a ball and is pretty good in the red zone when things start to get physical, he just isn't afforded the option very often

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[quote=SBXVII;810164]I think it has more to do with the opponants CB's and how tall they are. If they are taller then our WR's then balls will get batted away or intercepted. We would be forced to run slants and curls. So it is nice to have tall WR's since most CB's are starting to come out 6' plus.[/quote]

I think it has everything to do with how good the corners are at covering and how good the receivers are at separating and catching. 10 out of 10 times I'll put a shorter corner on a bigger man in the red zone if he can cover better. Same thing with the receivers. At 5-11 Greg Jennings came in 2nd in TDs in the league with 12. Also at 5-11 theres Darelle Revis, need more be said about him. If skill/speed/hands are the same, height helps, but a shorter better guy is the better option no matter where you are.

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[quote=skinster;810183]I think it has everything to do with how good the corners are at covering and how good the receivers are at separating and catching. 10 out of 10 times I'll put a shorter corner on a bigger man in the red zone if he can cover better. Same thing with the receivers. At 5-11 Greg Jennings came in 2nd in TDs in the league with 12. Also at 5-11 theres Darelle Revis, need more be said about him. If skill/speed/hands are the same, height helps, but a shorter better guy is the better option no matter where you are.[/quote]

I somewhat agree with you.... I mean look at D.Green, he was short, but he was smart enough to bat the ball or fight for it as the WR was coming down with the ball because of his hight. As long as he stayed close through out the route running he had a chance but your absolutely right it's all about seperation. Short guys would need to stay close in order to knock the ball away where as taller guys can afford to lose a step so long as they can out jump their opponant.

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I really hope that we don't sign Braylon Edwards;
- We don't have a QB, so it's going to be a similar situation as AH
- He gets in trouble with the law (drunk driving, club fights)
- He drops too many catchable balls
- There are better or just as good options out there on the market (Malcolm Floyd)

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This makes me want nnamdi even more..
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8209ba7d/article/cb2k-bailey-asomugha-shut-down-receivers-differently]NFL.com news: CB2K: Bailey, Asomugha shut down receivers differently[/url]

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[quote=SkinzWin;810094]EW. Old. Pass. I guarantee you we aren't throwing away money or players to trade for old washed up vet QB's. They only guy I would ever consider trading for is Kyle Orton, and I don't think that will happen. Build our other areas of need this off season and get a good QB in the draft this year. We aren't going to fix the whole team in one go.

Don't sign a washed up vet just to say you did, sign someone who will have a great impact down the road and wait until you can get a QB with good value and hopefully longevity. It's not like we would sign a vet QB to groom a young guy we already have for the future. I doubt anyone we have here will be a long term solution for our team at the QB position for years to come.[/quote]

I'm just saying..he's got a chance if you get some guys around him.

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They said Warner was washed up when he went to Arizona... just sayin

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I thought skinsfan69 was all about not signing any FAs at all and advocating a Suck for Luck campaign?

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[quote=SmootSmack;810207]I thought skinsfan69 was all about not signing any FAs at all and advocating a Suck for Luck campaign?[/quote]

You might be thinking of undercover Cowboys fan CultBrennan59.

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[quote=Ruhskins;810219]You might be thinking of undercover Cowboys fan CultBrennan59.[/quote]

You're not funny.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;810231]You're not funny.[/quote]

I must say that if you truly were a proponent of the "Suck for Luck" idea, you wouldn't have the FA wishlist that you have on your sig.

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^exactly

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[quote=Ruhskins;810219]You might be thinking of undercover Cowboys fan CultBrennan59.[/quote]

LOL. No I'm pretty sure Skinsfan69 has talked of not going after anyone at all

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[quote=CultBrennan59;810234]^exactly[/quote]

So you may want to change your FA wishlist then? LOL. I kid, I kid.


[quote=SmootSmack;810238]LOL. No I'm pretty sure Skinsfan69 has talked of not going after anyone at all[/quote]

Ah, didn't catch that one.

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[quote=Ruhskins;810219]You might be thinking of undercover Cowboys fan CultBrennan59.[/quote]

That would explain a lot about his posts. :rofl:

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[quote=Ruhskins;810232]I must say that if you truly were a proponent of the "Suck for Luck" idea, you wouldn't have the FA wishlist that you have on your sig.[/quote]

With the upcoming salary floor, I think we can sign some talent to benefit for the future while still somehow obtaining Luck. Signing free agents and being a bad team aren't mutally exclusive, especially when all teams are forced to pay a minimum amount, other teams competing for Luck will also be signing free agents.

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[quote=skinster;810250]With the upcoming salary floor, I think we can sign some talent to benefit for the future while still somehow obtaining Luck. [B]Signing free agents and being a bad team aren't mutally exclusive[/B], especially when all teams are forced to pay a minimum amount, other teams competing for Luck will also be signing free agents.[/quote]

No, they aren't mutually exclusive. We've been doing that for years.

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It sounds like Posluszny might be open to a departure from Buffalo:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110712_bills_posluzny_interested_in_giants]Bills' Posluzny interested in Giants - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Notice in that story he talks about "several teams," not just the Giants.

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[quote=Lotus;810481]It sounds like Posluszny might be open to a departure from Buffalo:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110712_bills_posluzny_interested_in_giants]Bills' Posluzny interested in Giants - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Notice in that story he talks about "several teams," not just the Giants.[/quote]

Yeah that's great and all...... But it doesn't say he's interested in the redskins.

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If buf let's this guy go he's not that good folks. Fletch was older that's y he came to us

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[quote=Lotus;810481]It sounds like Posluszny might be open to a departure from Buffalo:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110712_bills_posluzny_interested_in_giants]Bills' Posluzny interested in Giants - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Notice in that story he talks about "several teams," not just the Giants.[/quote]

I mean his first preference is to return to Buffalo but he was asked about the Giants because of Fewell so what is he going to say really? I can't imagine any free agent saying flat out no to many teams, if any at all, when asked about a specific team.

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[url=http://realredskins.com/2011/07/report-redskins-will-target-jenkins-brothers-holmes-in-free-agency/]Report: Redskins will target Jenkins brothers, Holmes in free agency | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

First I'd really heard Holmes' name mentioned for us. Cullen and Kris have been on our radar for several years actually. And I see Yanda as a longshot personally. Ravens will do anything they can to keep him.

Help on the lines is priority #1 in FA

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[quote=SmootSmack;810503][url=http://realredskins.com/2011/07/report-redskins-will-target-jenkins-brothers-holmes-in-free-agency/]Report: Redskins will target Jenkins brothers, Holmes in free agency | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

First I'd really heard Holmes' name mentioned for us. Cullen and Kris have been on our radar for several years actually. And I see Yanda as a longshot personally. Ravens will do anything they can to keep him.

Help on the lines is priority #1 in FA[/quote]

I'd like to see the Skins FO accept that they are in the process of building a team and, accordingly, draw a line in the sand in terms of the age, injury risk, and knucklehead risk that is acceptable in the players they pursue in Free Agency.

To be more specific about the age limit, I would like them to stay away from players who will be older than 28 at the start of the season.

Based on the above and his ability, I think that Yanda, who turns 27 on 9/15, would be perfect.

Holmes is a very good player who is only 27 but he fails the knucklehead test. The risk of his being suspended for one year due to a second substance abuse policy violation is worrisome to me. Still, he is a very good player and he's only 27. I'm torn on this one.

Cullen Jenkins, at age 30, is a little older than I'd prefer but I think he's a good fit for our defense at RDE. I think I might make an exception to the age limit and go after him.

Kris Jenkins is a very good football player who plays a position of great need for the Redskins. Unfortunately, he fails both the age and injury tests for me, so I hope they pass on him.

I would definitely re-sign Jammal Brown and Rex Grossman.

I think we need an ILB, so I'd like to see the Skins go after Kevin Burnett (age 28).

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I'll take the entire list in that article EXCEPT Holmes.

1. We do not need him at WR, a deep position.
2. We do not want someone like him on the team.

Just sign Moss.

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[quote=SmootSmack;810503][URL="http://realredskins.com/2011/07/report-redskins-will-target-jenkins-brothers-holmes-in-free-agency/"]Report: Redskins will target Jenkins brothers, Holmes in free agency | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/URL]

First I'd really heard Holmes' name mentioned for us. Cullen and Kris have been on our radar for several years actually. And I see Yanda as a longshot personally. Ravens will do anything they can to keep him.

Help on the lines is priority #1 in FA[/quote]

I wonder what happened to make this news public? Redskins FO have been tight-lipped about what they are doing and plan to do.. On other hand, the list seems pretty good, I have no complains except for Kris Jenkins. Kris have history of injuries, but perhaps playing beside with his brother will motivate Kris to play hard and throughout injuries if it comes up.. I really hope we will be able to resign Brown and Moss - the veterans are essential to our offense.

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So there is a chance we can have 3 Jenkins on our Dline at once. Kris, Cullen and Jarvis. Woah...

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[quote=Monkeydad;810520]I'll take the entire list in that article EXCEPT Holmes.

1. We do not need him at WR, a deep position.
2. We do not want someone like him on the team.

Just sign Moss.[/quote]


Holmes is better than Moss IMO

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[quote=skinsfaninok;810537]Holmes is better than Moss IMO[/quote]

No question, but Moss knows the offense better than Holmes.. Beside if we actually sign both, I would think they play different spots - Holmes as #1 and Moss as #2 or slot WR.

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I'm a believer of "you can't have too many targets" So I'd take Holmes or Edwards right now

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I'd definitely take Holmes, pass on Edwards.

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What if the only way to get Cullen Jenkins was to sign his brother? Is he worth that?

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I've got no problem with bringing in Kris Jenkins. Yeah the injuries are a bit of a concern but in a rotation I think he can still be productive.

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[quote=SmootSmack;810503][url=http://realredskins.com/2011/07/report-redskins-will-target-jenkins-brothers-holmes-in-free-agency/]Report: Redskins will target Jenkins brothers, Holmes in free agency | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

First I'd really heard Holmes' name mentioned for us. Cullen and Kris have been on our radar for several years actually. And I see Yanda as a longshot personally. Ravens will do anything they can to keep him.

Help on the lines is priority #1 in FA[/quote]

And no where in this article is there a mention of us getting a CB. We have to have one, thats more important than signing beat up kris jenkins or santonio holmes.

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Yeah we need a CB bad

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[quote=SmootSmack;810552]What if the only way to get Cullen Jenkins was to sign his brother? Is he worth that?[/quote]

I'm okay bringing in Kris Jenkins for a reasonable contract. From what I saw on Hard Knocks, he seems to be a good locker room guy. Plus he's got good experience at the NT position on a very good defensive team. He could be an asset to help bring up the young D-linemen we drafted.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;810567]And no where in this article is there a mention of us getting a CB. We have to have one, thats more important than signing beat up kris jenkins or santonio holmes.[/quote]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820be464/article/redskins-prepared-to-make-run-on-big-free-agents-after-lockout?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Redskins prepared to make run on big free agents after lockout[/url]

In this article, JLC said that Redskins plans to pursue to resign Philip Buchanon.. I think it's starting to look obvious that Redskins like Kevin Barnes as a replacement .

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[quote=GridIron26;810573][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820be464/article/redskins-prepared-to-make-run-on-big-free-agents-after-lockout?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Redskins prepared to make run on big free agents after lockout[/url]

In this article, JLC said that Redskins plans to pursue to resign Philip Buchanon.. I think it's starting to look obvious that Redskins like Kevin Barnes as a replacement .[/quote]

eehh...alright, but I think we should definitely make Nnamdi, JJ, and Ike Taylor offers and see if any of them will accept. If not then I guess I'm fine with Barnes starting at CB.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;810576]eehh...alright, but I think we should definitely make Nnamdi, JJ, and Ike Taylor offers and see if any of them will accept. If not then I guess I'm fine with Barnes starting at CB.[/quote]

I want Barnes to have a chance to start, after sitting for 2 years.. I like Joseph out of those three.. Well, of course I would love to have Nnamdi but I expect him to be well out of our budget range, which leaves to Joseph and Taylor. Arizona traded Taylor back to Steelers for a reason and then Steelers apparently won't resign him for a reason. I do not want to find out what the reason is.

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[quote=GridIron26;810592]I want Barnes to have a chance to start, after sitting for 2 years.. I like Joseph out of those three.. Well, of course I would love to have Nnamdi but I expect him to be well out of our budget range, which leaves to Joseph and Taylor. [B]Arizona traded Taylor back to Steelers for a reason and then Steelers apparently won't resign him for a reason. I do not want to find out what the reason is.[/B][/quote]

You're thinking of Bryant McFadden. And McFadden is nowhere near the caliber of a player like Ike Taylor. Ikes fast, really fast, tall, and physical, he has better hands than Carlos Rodgers (then again who doesn't). He gets some picks, he knows this defense, the negative is that he'll be 31 opening day.