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Remember BB coughed up a couple last preseason too.

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But AR was not just bad, he was really bad, and made some very poor decisions. He was as off as a Shayne Graham field goal attempt.

I say give Austin a chance.

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I hope Beck gets to play the whole first half. I'm really curious to see how he does for an entire half.

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New Tight End...

"Grant Paulsen
The #Redskins have signed TE Tony Curtis. He last played in the regular season with the #Cowboys in 2008."

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;823889]I hope Beck gets to play the whole first half. I'm really curious to see how he does for an entire half.[/QUOTE]

I would have liked to see Beck against the Steelers first-team instead of the Colts.

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AR has to learn to look the ball all the way into his hands before he looks up field.

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James Davis placed on reserved/left squad list...damn, you don't mess with Shanahan I guess

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[quote=Ruhskins;823891]New Tight End...

"Grant Paulsen
The #Redskins have signed TE Tony Curtis. He last played in the regular season with the #Cowboys in 2008."



I would have liked to see Beck against the Steelers first-team instead of the Colts.[/quote]

His daughter was awesome in True Lies.

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[quote=SmootSmack;823897]James Davis placed on [B]reserved/left squad list[/B]...damn, you don't mess with Shanahan I guess[/quote]

What is the "reserved/left squad" list?

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Basically they say we're not paying you, but you still belong to us. And they can do that in perpetuity if I recall correctly. Though I'm not positive under the new CBA

Ultimately, some agreement I'm sure it would be reached. But it's the Redskins way of saying if you're thinking of retiring on going to another team we're not going to make it easy for you

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Per Rich Campbell: Ryan Torain (broken left hand) is now cleared to take handoffs in RB drills, a team official said. Limited contact on his hand for now, tho

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[quote=Chico23231;823862]Id like to see Austin or Paul returning ko and punts.[/quote]

I'd like to see Austin get more reps on offense. He looked pretty good out there.

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[quote=Chico23231;823862]Id like to see Austin or Paul returning ko and punts.[/quote]

Pretty sure Austin will be the #1 returner for Friday

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[quote=CultBrennan59;823629][URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/chris-neild-working-for-smooth-transition/2011/08/15/gIQAG7ZPHJ_blog.html#pagebreak"]Chris Neild working for smooth transition - The Insider - The Washington Post[/URL]

so there is a chance that we don't keep 3 NT on our depth chart this year. I really think/thought that we would have Barry Cofield, Anthony Bryant, and Chris Neild.[/quote]Even Cofield is only going to play 60% of the snaps. A third NT would never be active but in case of injury to the starter. And even then, this team can get through a game with just one active NT.

Neild should keep working hard just in case the Anthony Bryant project doesn't work out and there is a spot for him on the active roster, but he has basically no chance to make the team out of camp.

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[quote=Chico23231;823862]Id like to see Austin or Paul returning ko and punts.[/quote]

Personally, I don't like the new rule governing KO's. The rule change is going to be devastating for teams with good return men. I understand the league's purpose for the change, but for teams like us with a good return man the rule change is a downer.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/belichick-says-nfl-wants-to-eliminate-kickoffs-nfl-disagrees/2011/08/16/gIQAn9qUJJ_blog.html]Belichick says NFL wants to eliminate kickoffs; NFL disagrees - The Early Lead - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=Longtimefan;823949]Personally, I don't like the new rule governing KO's. The rule change is going to be devastating for teams with good return men. I understand the league's purpose for the change, but for teams like us with a good return man the rule change is a downer.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/belichick-says-nfl-wants-to-eliminate-kickoffs-nfl-disagrees/2011/08/16/gIQAn9qUJJ_blog.html]Belichick says NFL wants to eliminate kickoffs; NFL disagrees - The Early Lead - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

And offenses which can sustain drives are more at a premium than ever. The 80 yard drive is now king.

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The thing I don't like about Beck getting his shot against the Colts is the fact that the Colts are notroriously bad in preseason play (Colt Brenan anyone?). Grossman's performance at least in the scope of these first two games should probably be weighted much heavier. Then again we have a whole preseason to determine who should start the season.

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[quote=Lotus;823972]And offenses which can sustain drives are more at a premium than ever. The 80 yard drive is now king.[/quote]

You're right!...and while it's not my intention to h/j this thread with this particular comment, I feel the new rule strips the game of one of it's most exciting elements, the KO return. This topic itself should be thread worthy.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;823986]The thing I don't like about Beck getting his shot against the Colts is the fact that the Colts are notroriously bad in preseason play (Colt Brenan anyone?). Grossman's performance at least in the scope of these first two games should probably be weighted much heavier. Then again we have a whole preseason to determine who should start the season.[/quote]

Well, he has to play at some point.

Not sure you can weigh the first game more than the 2nd just based on the fact starters' playing time typically increases going from games 1-3. So Beck should see more time against the Colts' starters vs Rex seeing only 2 series from the Steelers starters.

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[quote=Longtimefan;824044]You're right!...and while it's not my intention to h/j this thread with this particular comment, I feel the new rule strips the game of one of it's most exciting elements, the KO return. This topic itself should be thread worthy.[/quote]

KO line was the 35 prior to 94 when they moved it to 30 to try to increase scoring.

Ever think about how arbitrary these lines are? Why is a touchback to the 20? What if field position started at the goal line, e.g. kickoffs were from there?

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Not so arbitrary.

- Average kickoff return in NFL: 22 yards
- Average kickoff started at 6.5 yard line last season [URL="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14845220/kickoff-change-means-more-touchbacks-less-electricity"]link[/URL]

Now move it back 5 yards this season. Means little less than 50% of kicks will be in endzone. The returner will on average get to the 20 yard line. If the touchback was the 15 yard line, I'd say go for it EVERY time - you'd get more yards. If it was the 25 or 30 yard line, I'd say kneel it EVERY time.

Since it's at the 20, it's just right -> gives the returner a decision to make.

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[quote=freddyg12;824137]KO line was the 35 prior to 94 when they moved it to 30 to try to increase scoring.
[/quote]

I've been thinking about this kickoff thing too...thinking it sucks for us since we have Banks....but lets look at this realistically and historically....there were no issues prior to 94...its just that now the average kicker has superior distance vs back then.

I really think it is a break even for the skins because we have a great kick returner and a kicker that can force touchbacks the majority of the time...if you get rid our our kicker...well...thats a different story.

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OJ Atogwe's been having a good camp, but is rehabbing a hammy right now, but I heard that he's dating Mike Singletary's daughter. Looked her up, and she isn't that bad looking

[IMG]http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1426/singles.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=12thMan;823913]Per Rich Campbell: Ryan Torain (broken left hand) is now cleared to take handoffs in RB drills, a team official said. Limited contact on his hand for now, tho[/quote]

Good to see Torain can now begin working his way back. The NFL has now become a multi-back league and has been for some time. It doesn't matter much who starts between Torain and Hightower, both, if healthy, will get plenty of playing time. I'm glad we have two RBs who both gained over 725 yards last year. Maybe they could do the same as a combo this year.

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[quote=Longtimefan;824292]Good to see Torain can now begin working his way back. The NFL has now become a multi-back league and has been for some time. It doesn't matter much who starts between Torain and Hightower, both, if healthy, will get plenty of playing time. I'm glad we have two RBs who both gained over 725 yards last year. Maybe they could do the same as a combo this year.[/quote]

Who's this Torain fellow is he any good? Why do we need him, we already have 3 good backs.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;824285]OJ Atogwe's been having a good camp, but is rehabbing a hammy right now, but I heard that he's dating Mike Singletary's daughter. Looked her up, and she isn't that bad looking

[IMG]http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1426/singles.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

They got married this spring. That's why he missed some of the player led workouts.

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Not sure if this is the right forum but ...

[url=http://sports.bodog.eu/sports-betting/football-futures.jsp]Football Futures Betting, 2011 Super Bowl Odds at Bodog Sportsbook[/url]

It's kind of comical how little the sports world thinks of the Redskins -- we finished with the same record as the Cowboys last season and beat the eventual champs (packers) but for some reason we are 100/1 favorites to win the SB but the cowturds are 18/1. God I hope we surprise some people this year.

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Josh Wilson will not be playing Friday night (washingtonpost.com)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;824285]OJ Atogwe's been having a good camp, but is rehabbing a hammy right now, but I heard that he's dating Mike Singletary's daughter. Looked her up, and she isn't that bad looking

[IMG]http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1426/singles.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I can't date a woman who is that blurry. I prefer my women to be in focus.

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[quote=Lotus;824688]I can't date a woman who is that blurry. I prefer my women to be in focus.[/quote]

Ahh, in addition to photos, do you also date rubber doll women?

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;823879]You've got to try AR again could be first game jitters or the NFL is just to BIG for him we need to find out. IMO.[/quote]


Totally agree, I need to see him at least return the ball a couple of times before I can form an opinion....

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[quote=JoeRedskin;824699]Ahh, in addition to photos, do you also date rubber doll women?[/quote]

Lol

Have you ever seen the funny Robin Williams segment from Deconstructing Harry? Daddy's out of focus!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0FSYKcV2Mk]Out of focus - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;824293]Who's this Torain fellow is he any good? Why do we need him, we already have 3 good backs.[/quote]

He's the guy we all thought was a pretty-good RB (when healthy) and produced to the extent where he was projected the starter at the position going into the 2011 season.....that lasted until the names Hightower, Helu and Royster emerged. I would not have known that DB had it not been for the great video work you did. :)

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Rookie notes, particularly Hankerson at the #4 receiver spot.

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/08/redskins-rookie-report-0]Redskins rookie report | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;824782]Rookie notes, particularly Hankerson at the #4 receiver spot.

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/08/redskins-rookie-report-0]Redskins rookie report | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url][/quote]

Like what im hearing on Markus White and Gomes.

Really disappointed with the rookie NT

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I think people had way too high expectations of Nield. 7th round pick and we were talking about him fighting for possibly a starting spot.

That said, I am disappointed in Capers and Cook. Not sure either makes the team. So those are two young OL that potentially flopped for us.

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[quote=Chico23231;824785][B]Like what im hearing on Markus White[/B] and Gomes.

Really disappointed with the rookie NT[/quote]

We're gonna have some tough decisions to make at LB. Markus White has looked very good.

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[quote=SmootSmack;824795]I think people had way too high expectations of Nield. 7th round pick and we were talking about him fighting for possibly a starting spot.

That said, I am disappointed in Capers and Cook. Not sure either makes the team. So those are two young OL that potentially flopped for us.[/quote]

I'll admit I had high hopes for Nield, but that was before we brought in Bowen and before we all realized that Jarvis Jenkins is a freaking animal. Looks like Neild will end up on the practice squad, so at least we can work on developing him into solid, young depth.

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Neild is practice squad at best, and that's not a knock on him, just no room for him.

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So I didn't catch much of the first preseason game, how did Jenkins look? I know he's had a really good camp, but what's the chances of him starting opening day?

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[quote=12thMan;824827]So I didn't catch much of the first preseason game, how did Jenkins look? I know he's had a really good camp, but what's the chances of him starting opening day?[/quote]

Zero...unless Carriker or Bowen get hurt...but he'll play. Give him some time and he could be starting by year's end. He needs to learn the various techniques that he's never had to use before because of his natural abilities but it is only a matter of time. He is going to be a good starting quality lineman.