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[quote=GMScud;877143]According to Redskins president of operations Dennis Greene, the Redskins new QB has been chosen, and "fans will be elated." Huh...

[URL="http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/people/capitalcomment/22403.html"]Heard at Lunch: The Redskins Have Chosen a New Quarterback - Capital Comment Blog (washingtonian.com)[/URL][/quote]

This seems a bit strange to me. If they have an agreement and a decision has been made, why not release the information? When do season ticket sales/renewals take place? Hate to appear cynical, but this seems like some kind of marketing ploy to keep fans on the hook for next season.

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[quote=redskin29633;877224]This seems a bit strange to me. If they have an agreement and a decision has been made, why not release the information? When do season ticket sales/renewals take place? Hate to appear cynical, but this seems like some kind of marketing ploy to keep fans on the hook for next season.[/quote]

it's both, actually.

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Hmmm, from the sound of it my best guess would be a free agent QB. It doesn't make sense to say that about a QB we would have to draft.

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[quote=bsteinel;877244]Go for Peyton. Period.[/quote]

Ummm..... No.

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[quote=bsteinel;877244]Go for Peyton. Period.[/quote]

I wish someone would just delete all your posts. Period. If only someone had that kind of power around here....

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[quote=diehardskin2982;877218]^ no name, gee thanks... lol[/quote]

Sometimes my clues are cleverly hidden in my posts...other times they're staring you right in the face.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;877243]Hmmm, from the sound of it my best guess would be a free agent QB. It doesn't make sense to say that about a QB we would have to draft.[/quote]

Well let's put some common sense into the equation. If its a FA more then likely the team will have already gone after and have had the individual sign a contract a whole month before the draft which means we all should already know.

If we won't know until the draft that would more then Likely mean a drafted QB. Unless its a trade involving draft picks. Which would mean the QB is not a FA. So either look at non FA's the Skins would be interested in or guess which QB in the draft it is.

Could it be that they will be or are working with Weeden they like what they see? Is there already a trade scenario in place to get RGIII? Or are we trading for someone else's hand me down?

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[quote=SmootSmack;877253]Sometimes my clues are cleverly hidden in my posts...other times they're staring you right in the face.[/quote]

You must mean "[B]Luck[/B]-y" then.

If a deal with Indy for Luck is in place, which I doubt because they need a young QB to rebuild around as much as we do, then it could not be announced until the start of the league year in mid-March, at the earliest. I know the article said it would be announced at the Draft. I'm just stating the earliest a trade could be announced.

I certainly hope that we're not going to acquire Peyton Manning in a trade, as great as he is, because his neck injury makes me way too nervous for that.

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if its Luck, it would be best case scenario for us. Skins need to get Lucky for once, we are due

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Matty's post under the News:

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2012/01/throwing-around-ideas/2114936#ixzz1k0W7aU9a]Throwing around ideas for the Redskins in the NFL Draft | John Keim | Cheers & Jeers | Washington Examiner[/url]


I personally thought the article was way to short, and didn't id needs, other scenarios, and other possible later picks. I'm not hiding the fact I want the B&G to trade back for more picks.

The following article says nothing as well. Unless we signed someone to the squad already that no one has heard of. The assumption is we already have this QB onboard.

[url=http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/people/capitalcomment/22403.html]Heard at Lunch: The Redskins Have Chosen a New Quarterback - Capital Comment Blog (washingtonian.com)[/url]

It's all conjecture, speculation, and guessing. Just like looking at SS's posts. :confused:

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The Redskins should just name Andrew Luck their starter for the 2012 season, and then just see what happens.

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[quote=GTripp0012;877280]The Redskins should just name Andrew Luck their starter for the 2012 season, and then just see what happens.[/quote]
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I thought it was interesting in the Irsay interview yesterday with ESPN that he said they would pick Luck or Griffin. I'm wondering if there is a plan afoot where Manning is healthy so they pick Griffin who may benefit from sitting behind Manning for a couple of yrs and also a plan to do the obvious and draft Luck if Manning is cut.

Scenario that was alluded to may be a deal with St. Louis to go up to get Luck if Griffin is off the board at 1.

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i dont see how we could already have an agreement in place with the colts for the #1 overall pick. Even if the colts were open to trading the pick, theyd be fools to do so this far in advance of the draft.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;877258]You must mean "[B]Luck[/B]-y" then.

If a deal with Indy for Luck is in place, which I doubt because they need a young QB to rebuild around as much as we do, then it could not be announced until the start of the league year in mid-March, at the earliest. I know the article said it would be announced at the Draft. I'm just stating the earliest a trade could be announced.

I certainly hope that we're not going to acquire Peyton Manning in a trade, as great as he is, because his neck injury makes me way too nervous for that.[/quote]

Well we might not need to trade up too far folks...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/20/irsay-plans-to-draft-luck-or-griffin-even-if-peyton-is-healthy/]Irsay plans to draft Luck or Griffin, even if Peyton is healthy | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Irsay said he knows from personal experience with [URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning"][B][COLOR=#000000]Peyton Manning[/COLOR][/B][/URL] that if you have a chance to draft a great quarterback first overall you take it. And he sounded like a man who already knows he’s drafting a quarterback and needs to decide only whether that quarterback will be Stanford’s [URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6439/andrew-luck"][B][COLOR=#000000]Andrew Luck[/COLOR][/B][/URL] or Baylor’s [URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406/robert-griffin-iii"][B][COLOR=#000000]Robert Griffin III[/COLOR][/B][/URL].
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Maybe the Colts take RGIII because his stock rises by, during, and after the combine or maybe their new HC will like RGIII better. Which means Luck will fall... and with all the attention RGIII has been getting because everyone just assumes the Colts will take Luck, I can see the Colts listening to all the talk of RGIII.

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[quote=Paintrain;877283]
Scenario that was alluded to[B] may be a deal with[/B] [B]St. Louis[/B] to go up to get Luck if Griffin is off the board at 1.[/quote]

This may very well be what will happen. Many people here have speculated that the Rams will take perhaps a WR weapon for Bradford but I could swear I heard that not only do they need a weapon but they will need a Tackle because their's is retiring. I was pretty sure I heard that. they might be thinking that they could let someone like the Skins trade up so they get more picks and yet still get the OL they want in the draft or the next best if there are two pretty close in talent.

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[QUOTE]"Washington Redskins president of operations Dennis Greene was overheard telling people at a Washington Economic Club luncheon today that [B]a new quarterback has been chosen,[/B][B] 'and fans will be elated,'"[/B] Carol Ross Joynt of the Washingtonian relayed. "Greene said the mystery player's name won't be revealed until [B]April, when the NFL draft occurs."[/B]
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Elated fans, revealed on draft day, sounds like RGIII to me. Possibly Luck as well but RGIII seems much more obtainable at this point. I'm not sure fans would be elated about Ryan Tannehill.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;877305]Elated fans, revealed on draft day, sounds like RGIII to me. Possibly Luck as well but RGIII seems much more obtainable at this point. [B]I'm not sure fans would be elated about Ryan Tannehill[/B].[/quote]

Wouldn't even be pleased much less elated.

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There's no inside basis for this, I'm just sayin that a three way trade would make tons of sense:

- We get the 1st Overall from the Colts
- Colts get the 2nd overall from the Rams plus some stuff from us
- Rams get the 6th overall from us plus some stuff from us

That way we pay a fortune but land Luck. Colts would still get RGIII to sit behind Manning. And the Rams, who don't need a QB, cash in on the #2 spot and slide down and stockpile picks.

Seems like it'd make sense for all involved, even though this is all manufactured in my mind.

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i just really dont wanna end up giving up picks that we NEED, to try and get solid talent/depth...

i really am high on Nick Foles AZ, but I could deal with Tannenhil... and I'm still hoping that Manning gets cut and we sign him, even if it is for 3 years or 4 till he gets hurt or just hangs it up.. let a kid come in here and learn under one of the best ever. and while he's learning Manning would hopefully have this team competing much better than we are used to.

if No maning. I still say u draft Blackmon if available at 6...

wait and see who falls to u at 6.... i'd even be happy with trading back if we couldnt get someone we need at 6... but get foles/tannenhil later (3) ... we have needs IMO more pressing than GIVING AWAY our draft. Keep Rex as a 2 or 3 or even to start regardless...
i know he's not great but he's not awful either, he at least gives us a chance, and for all we know could improve givin a new deal of 3 years or so, however the circumstance ACTUALLY play out, we will see.

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i laugh every time i hear people say i want a top QB, but don't want to give up any picks. i get the part about the skins having a bunch of holes to fill. but this is a QB driven league. and im sick of all the nasty QB play we have had in DC the last 20 years. well i do not want to mortgage the future, i all but want the skins to do what it takes to secure a starting NFL calibre QB. i don't want Flynn, but can understand why the front office would sign him. lets face it, anyone not named Grossman or Beck will be a big improvement

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this team is waiting for Matt Barkley, i will say thats how i feel... i wouldn't expect any crazy trades for Luck or RG3, i honestly think if something like that were to happen...... it will be with Matt Barkley if his level of play stays where it was this year...

but i think Luck and RG3 will be better in the NFL than Barkley.. so I dont like this feeling LOL.

I want a first and second round pick this, and next year. point blank for me.

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Only IF the Redskins had ended the season with an 8-8 or a 9-7 record would they be willing to wait it out another season before drafting/getting THE franchise QB of the future. I think after 5-11, there is just so much pressure on the Redskins to have a new QB under center this fall, that I don't think they can wait on Matt Barkley.

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My two cents on the QB situation. With a 5-11 season and having Grossman and Beck as our QB's they need to address the QB position this offseason. So here we go, we are in a bad spot in the draft to get one of the top 2 QB's. Usually to move up in the draft is done on draft day, to me that is too late to have notaddress the QB position.

So with all these rumors floating about a multitude of QB's we could get. I think if we either sign Flynn or trade for Hoyer or Sanchez then we wont attempt to trade up for RG3. Manning is not coming here. If we trade for Clausen or sign one of the other FA Qb's then i can see us still attempting to trade up.

IMO i think we have to either sign Flynn or trade for Hoyer, because if we take a chance with the other options of the other available or traded for QB's and cant trade up to get RG3, the Shanahans will be feeling the pressure from fans and Dan Synder IMO.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;877258]You must mean "[B]Luck[/B]-y" then.

If a deal with Indy for Luck is in place, which I doubt because they need a young QB to rebuild around as much as we do, then it could not be announced until the start of the league year in mid-March, at the earliest. I know the article said it would be announced at the Draft. I'm just stating the earliest a trade could be announced.

I certainly hope that we're not going to acquire Peyton Manning in a trade, as great as he is, because his neck injury makes me way too nervous for that.[/quote]

We're not going to acquire Peyton Manning in a trade

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[quote=SmootSmack;877359]We're not going to acquire Peyton Manning in a trade[/quote]

I don't have any idea how that rumor got started. There was never any talk of "if Peyton is healthy the Colts might be willing to trade him." None. All the talk centered around how the Colts probably won't want to pay him the 28 mil bonus and the only way to avoid that is to release him, not trade him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;877359]We're not going to acquire Peyton Manning in a trade[/quote]


You still left the door open to us acquiring him.

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[quote=Schneed10;877307]There's no inside basis for this, I'm just sayin that a three way trade would make tons of sense:

- We get the 1st Overall from the Colts
- Colts get the 2nd overall from the Rams plus some stuff from us
- Rams get the 6th overall from us plus some stuff from us

That way we pay a fortune but land Luck. Colts would still get RGIII to sit behind Manning. And the Rams, who don't need a QB, cash in on the #2 spot and slide down and stockpile picks.

Seems like it'd make sense for all involved, even though this is all manufactured in my mind.[/quote]

You are right, this scenario would make sense. But I refuse to even think about it more because it would be too unbelievably cool and I don't want to be let down.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;877157]Lotus?

#HTTR[/quote]

Yes. I live in Mississippi, wear wranglers, and am the new franchise QB of the Skins. Now you know.

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[quote=Meks;877336]i just really dont wanna end up giving up picks that we NEED, to try and get solid talent/depth...

i really am high on Nick Foles AZ, but I could deal with Tannenhil... and I'm still hoping that Manning gets cut and we sign him, even if it is for 3 years or 4 till he gets hurt or just hangs it up.. let a kid come in here and learn under one of the best ever. and while he's learning Manning would hopefully have this team competing much better than we are used to.

if No maning. I still say u draft Blackmon if available at 6...

wait and see who falls to u at 6.... i'd even be happy with trading back if we couldnt get someone we need at 6... but get foles/tannenhil later (3) ... we have needs IMO more pressing than GIVING AWAY our draft. Keep Rex as a 2 or 3 or even to start regardless...
[B]i know he's not great but he's not awful either, he at least gives us a chance, [/B]and for all we know could improve givin a new deal of 3 years or so, however the circumstance ACTUALLY play out, we will see.[/quote]
Did you just emerge from a coma? Seriously? He was the worst starting QB in the league other than the Painter/Orlovsky duo in Indy.

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[quote=mredskins;877363]You still left the door open to us acquiring him.[/quote]

LOL. Sorry. If we get him in any fashion I would be somewhat surprised quite honestly.

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[quote=SmootSmack;877369]LOL. Sorry. If we get him in any fashion I would be somewhat surprised quite honestly.[/quote]

I hope we don't get him nor do I think he wants to come here.

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[quote=Paintrain;877368]Did you just emerge from a coma? Seriously? He was the worst starting QB in the league other than the Painter/Orlovsky duo in Indy.[/quote]

I really can't believe anyone would still support Rex after seeing him the past season +. Heck, just look at his entire career. Turnover machine.

He's a lock for 2 turnovers a game, at the least. You just can't win in this league when you're giving the ball up like that.

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[quote=Paintrain;877368]Did you just emerge from a coma? Seriously? He was the worst starting QB in the league other than the Painter/Orlovsky duo in Indy.[/quote]

Ur talking about BECK right? yea i thought he was alot worse than painter and orv :) .... Especially Orv... he was actually scoring and shit.

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[quote=Mattyk;877379]I really can't believe anyone would still support Rex after seeing him the past season +. Heck, just look at his entire career. Turnover machine.

He's a lock for 2 turnovers a game, at the least. You just can't win in this league when you're giving the ball up like that.[/quote]

If he starts, i have to support him. i just said hes not as awful as some ppl... and in reference to keeping him? as a backup who knows the offense hopefully that would be the extent of his role.
I want foles and thats the for me.

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We're done with Rex as a starter. There's just no way we can go into another season with him and expect to win games.

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[quote=Mattyk;877384]We're done with Rex as a starter. There's just no way we can go into another season with him and expect to win games.[/quote][SIZE=2]
If Rex is the starter next season, I would conclude that Shanny is tanking games to get in position to draft Barkley.
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I really can't take another season of hearing about "tanking"

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i second that... and i dont think he will be the starter, back up yes, but starter no so ur safe there

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[quote=Meks;877381]Ur talking about BECK right? yea i thought he was alot worse than painter and orv :) .... Especially Orv... he was actually scoring and shit.[/quote]

Make no mistake, I'm talking about Rex. Beck was a backup. He showed in 3 games why he was considered as such and returned to his regular place. Grossman was our starting QB and was the worst in the league outside of Indy.

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The teams needs to clean house at QB. I don't hate Rex but it's time to move on completely