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[quote=Paintrain;901197]I agree, the myth of us having a horrible offensive line that needs an overhaul is greatly exaggerated. If healthy our full OL is probably in the middle of the pack across the NFL. The big question is Jamaal Brown, what will he have left in 2012 to bring to RT. While he still has a long ways to go to be considered an unquestioned starter, I saw enough of Willie Smith to give him starter reps in the OTA's and training camp at RT. The interior is ok, not great but not horrible either. Having RGIII will make them look better, [B]Grossman was a sitting duck back there[/B].[/quote]

...he certainly waddles like a duck.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;901178]I recently read an interesting perspective in regards to our O-Line but right now I'm having trouble placing it.

Anyhow, basically it goes that in 2011 we gave up 5 less sacks then we did in 2010. Now 5 sacks might not seem like that great a drop but when you consider that we lost Kory L for the season, Trent Williams for 6 games, Tim Hightower for the season (aka our top pass protection back), and Jammal Brown for 4 games well safe to say a 5 sack drop looks all the more impressive.

The fact of the matter is we might not necessarily need starters but rather we need to focus on finding better backups or at least focus more on improving the ones we have.

*Shamless plug for Florida State tackle Andrew Datko[/quote]

Beck didn't do anything in his starts to help the sack numbers either. A lot of those sacks were his fault.

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[quote=Mattyk;901202]Beck didn't do anything in his starts to help the sack numbers either. A lot of those sacks were his fault.[/quote]

10 of them in one game. Normally, 4 sacks is indicative of a bad sack day, so let's just say 6-8 of them were Beck's fault.

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[quote=GTripp0012;900883]True 30 defenses, like the Steelers and the Redskins are already pretty multiple as it is. Our sub package is a 40 front (as you mentioned) and typically involves both OLBs with their hands in the [B][I][U]dird[/U][/I][/B].

I would like to see them get more multiple with that sub package. What they do a lot of is they will overload one side with an SS pressure to force the offense to adjust their protection/go hot with the football. But the fact that we pretty much have to wait for a passing down to use that wrinkle suggests that we're missing opportunities to get our best personnel on the field in earlier downs.

Ever since the first six games Haslett was coordinator, we haven't seen much interior pass rush. Sure, Fletcher or McIntosh will come with delayed A-gap pressure a lot, but we live and die with straight four man rushes and defensive overloads. I feel like if we were more multiple, we could acquire more useful personnel that creates favorable match-ups for our rushers.

That's the opportunity we are missing on defense right now. In our sub packages, we should be attacking the weak links of the opponent's pass protection. Instead, we're trying to isolate the tackles on the edge, and/or get a free rusher. Nothing wrong with that, just missing opportunities to be even better.[/quote]

New word for the list. Called it!!!

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[quote=Dirtbag59;901178]I recently read an interesting perspective in regards to our O-Line but right now I'm having trouble placing it.

Anyhow, basically it goes that in 2011 we gave up 5 less sacks then we did in 2010. Now 5 sacks might not seem like that great a drop but when you consider that we lost Kory L for the season, Trent Williams for 6 games, Tim Hightower for the season (aka our top pass protection back), and Jammal Brown for 4 games well safe to say a 5 sack drop looks all the more impressive.

The fact of the matter is we might not necessarily need starters but rather we need to focus on finding better backups or at least focus more on improving the ones we have.

*Shamless plug for Florida State tackle Andrew Datko[/quote]

You could also attribute that to the stronger running game with Royster and Helu and Hightower, as well as a better grasping of the offensive scheme by the line, even though it was definitely decimated by injuries. Very optimistic though. Love to go back down 5 more this season, or even more!!

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Where are the rest of the Redskins' FA signings? Is anyone else visiting us? Is Bruce Allen napping?

Wake up, Bruce! We need you to get us more players.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;901257]Where are the rest of the Redskins' FA signings? Is anyone else visiting us? Is Bruce Allen napping?

Wake up, Bruce! We need you to get us more players.[/quote]

We're broke and who's out there that you would want? Besides Fletch.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;901257]Where are the rest of the Redskins' FA signings? Is anyone else visiting us? Is Bruce Allen napping?

Wake up, Bruce! We need you to get us more players.[/quote]

Wow, really? It amazes me how desperate this fan base gets around this time. We have a young core group, lets build them up, use the draft (yes we still have 7 picks in it) and develop this team.
(unless you were being sarcastic, in which case i agree as well)

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Lets build this ship through the draft! LETS GOO

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;901269]Wow, really? It amazes me how desperate this fan base gets around this time. We have a young core group, lets build them up, use the draft (yes we still have 7 picks in it) and develop this team.
(unless you were being sarcastic, in which case i agree as well)[/QUOTE]

All we need is RGIII

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[quote=chrisl13;901266]We're broke and who's out there that you would want? Besides Fletch.[/quote]

London Fletcher, Demetrius Bell, and Tim Hightower. Maybe Brandon Jacobs as a short yardage back.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;901279]London Fletcher, Demetrius Bell, and Tim Hightower. Maybe [B]Brandon Jacobs as a short yardage back[/B].[/quote]


HELL NO he thinks he's a 3rd down back.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;901279]London Fletcher, Demetrius Bell, and Tim Hightower. Maybe Brandon Jacobs as a short yardage back.[/quote]

all for Vet min and its a deal. lol

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[quote=chrisl13;901266]We're broke and who's out there that you would want? Besides Fletch.[/quote] Arron Ross, D bell, Fletcher.

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[quote=chrisl13;901266]We're broke and who's out there that you would want? Besides Fletch.[/quote]

Fletch, Collins, Porter, and versatile young bargain guard.

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[quote=NAVY CHIEF;901287]Arron Ross, D bell, Fletcher.[/quote]

Yeah thats what I want but in reverse order.

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So Demetrius Bell has an offer from the bills, Aaron Ross has several offers. No word on London.

Yehrima Bell the FS for the dolphins just got cut.

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[quote=Chico23231;901290]Fletch, Collins, Porter, and versatile young bargain guard.[/quote]

What are the first names on Collin and Porter?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;901294]So Demetrius Bell has an offer from the bills, Aaron Ross has several offers. No word on London.

Yehrima Bell the FS for the dolphins just got cut.[/quote]

Add Yeremiah Bell to my list. I think he could help us.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;901297]What are the first names on Collin and Porter?[/quote]
I think he means Anthony collins and Tracy porter

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[quote=Chico23231;901290]Fletch, Collins, Porter, and versatile young bargain guard.[/quote]

I love versatile young bargain guard. He's been a solid yet unspectacular player for a couple seasons now.

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[quote=mooby;901308]I love versatile young bargain guard. He's been a solid yet unspectacular player for a couple seasons now.[/quote]

true, Ive always been a fan of his. I think he might end up at the NFL thrift store.

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[quote=mooby;901308]I love versatile young bargain guard. He's been a solid yet unspectacular player for a couple seasons now.[/quote]
But he is so full of potential, you could say he has a very high cieling.

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Fletcher, D. Bell, and Porter in that order... Singning Fletcher and T. Porter or Aaron Ross would be enoughto fill our needs at ILB and CB; RT can wait until the 3rd round, and a slot WR that can return punts and kickoffs (T.Y. Hilton, FIU) can be addressed in the 4th, same goes for the FS position.

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[quote=mooby;901308]I love versatile young bargain guard. He's been a solid yet unspectacular player for a couple seasons now.[/quote]

I'm totally stoked to get his jersey. From Walmart.

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[quote=mooby;901308]I love versatile young bargain guard. He's been a solid yet unspectacular player for a couple seasons now.[/quote]

Versatile young bargain QB as well. Maybe a two for one blue light special? You know how Bruce can be...

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;901302]Add Yeremiah Bell to my list. I think he could help us.[/quote]

He's 34 but has been very consistent, I would offer him a 1 year deal.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;901350]He's 34 but has been very consistent, I would offer him a 1 year deal.[/quote]

This.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;901350]He's 34 but has been very consistent, I would offer him a 1 year deal.[/QUOTE]

It seems that Bell's release caught a lot of ppl by surprise.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;901350]He's 34 but has been very consistent, I would offer him a 1 year deal.[/quote]

he's better than Reed

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[quote=skinsfaninok;901356]he's better than Reed[/quote]

Who isn't better than Reed?

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So what in the world is going on with London Fletcher? Is he coming back or what?! My guess, BOLD guess is that maybe were moving on without him and continuing on with youth movement.

So much for aaron ross:

CB Aaron Ross agrees to 3 Year deal in Jacksonville, deal worth up to $15.3M. #freeagency

Per JLC

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[quote=iRepDMV;901399]So what in the world is going on with London Fletcher? Is he coming back or what?! My guess, BOLD guess is that maybe were moving on without him and continuing on with youth movement.[/quote]

It would make sense with the rest of the moves. As much as I want him back it would be puzzling if he was resigned with the direction they have gone in so far.
But I guess there is still a spot for a veteran with Fletchs type of leadership on a young team.

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[quote=iRepDMV;901399]So what in the world is going on with London Fletcher? Is he coming back or what?! My guess, BOLD guess is that maybe were moving on without him and continuing on with youth movement.[/quote]

I hope Bruce Allen sat down with him, thanked him for being what the Skins look for, showed him a Very Good offer sheet, told him we really want him back, but understand his desire to look at other teams, and now we(the Skins) are letting him come to his own decision. I hope he comes back here, but you have to be able to let older players decide their own end.

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[quote=steveherrin;901405]So much for aaron ross:

CB Aaron Ross agrees to 3 Year deal in Jacksonville, deal worth up to $15.3M. #freeagency

Per JLC

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I, for one, am glad he didn't sign here

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I'm surprised Ross got a three year deal.

He would have been a decent pickup for us and he is a better pickup for Jacksonville, but if you had made me guess, I would have predicted that 2/6 would have been about the ceiling on his earnings. That's not to suggest Jacksonville overpaid, but it's a longer contract that I thought he'd get.

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3yr 15 mil for Ross, a 30 yr old CB is just [B]too[/B] much... glad we didn't overpay, but it would've been nice had he signed here...

Tracy Porter is still available, which to me is surprising.

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I saw on Twitter that Kory L. signed his tender. Are there any other RFAs left to sign? I know one of them was Gano.

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;901416]I hope Bruce Allen sat down with him, thanked him for being what the Skins look for, showed him a Very Good offer sheet, told him we really want him back, but understand his desire to look at other teams, and now we(the Skins) are letting him come to his own decision. I hope he comes back here, but you have to be able to let older players decide their own end.[/QUOTE]

I think this is exactly what is happening. Eventually I see Fletch realizing the Skins offering as the best he will get.