Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1156391]So, Dan buys the franchise. He makes one bad FO and HC hiring decision after another. He tries to be his own GM and makes one historically bad player personnel decision after another. And he does this for [U]twenty[/U] [U]years[/U]!

Then it seems that he finally realizes the error of his ways when he hires Scot McCloughan, one of the best GM's in the business. And now, you're telling me he is still pushing his GM to make poor decisions on critical player personnel just when the franchise is about to turn the corner on the field? It's damn near unbelievable that he would do that, yet I do believe it. Hubris. Pure hubris.[/quote]

I don't think he's exactly Rosy about Cousins being our QB and possible franchise quarterback, but at the end of the day I believe that he will let Scott M make the big time decisions. I do wonder now which way he is leaning about Cousins. I'm with the opinion of some of the other posters here, when or IF we let Cousins go, it could really haunt us tremendously because i think too, that this team is about ready to turn the corner and become again one of the NFL's consistently best teams....

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1156391]So, Dan buys the franchise. He makes one bad FO and HC hiring decision after another. He tries to be his own GM and makes one historically bad player personnel decision after another. And he does this for [U]twenty[/U] [U]years[/U]!

Then it seems that he finally realizes the error of his ways when he hires Scot McCloughan, one of the best GM's in the business. And now, you're telling me he is still pushing his GM to make poor decisions on critical player personnel just when the franchise is about to turn the corner on the field? It's damn near unbelievable that he would do that, yet I do believe it. Hubris. Pure hubris.[/quote]

I think the timeline would go something like this:

2015 offseason: Jay Gruden comes out and says RG3 is the guy and we are going to fully support him. Kirk is nothing more than an afterthought.

2015 training camp: Gruden/McC are slowly realizing RG3 is still garbage, especially around the time when we are holding simultaneous TC with the Pats (and the post camp reports that the Pats thought Cousins was better.)

2015 preseason: RG3 gets injured with the concussion, which lets Gruden/McC make their move to establish Cousins as the starter. Snyder is furious, prob still bitter that RG3 sucks years after giving up a bounty for him. Snyder dislikes Cousins because he really hasn't done anything during the regular season so far.

2015 games 1-8: Snyder sees Cousins looking weak out of the gate, with each passing game tries to figure out a way to get rid of Cousins and possibly non-Bruce Allen management for dissing his boy RG3.

2015 games 9-16: Begrudgingly admits the greatest comeback in Redskins history was semi-cool, tries not to get too hyped about it. Cousins then goes on to have an excellent second half but Snyder still isn't 100% sold. Cousins doesn't say anything but clearly the McC vote of confidence helped him step his game up.

2016 offseason: Cousins gets tagged, we play the wait-and-see game.

2016 first two games: Cousins looks mediocre out of the gate, Snyder is either furiously overreacting or at least mildly panicking that 2015 season pt.2 was a fluke, starts wondering if Cousins has any trade value left.

2016 - current: Cousins making Snyder look dumb again. Maybe Snyder has learned to just sign the checks and let McC make football decisions. Not putting my money on that though.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1156420]I don't think he's exactly Rosy about Cousins being our QB and possible franchise quarterback, but at the end of the day I believe that he will let Scott M make the big time decisions. I do wonder now which way he is leaning about Cousins. I'm with the opinion of some of the other posters here, when or IF we let Cousins go, it could really haunt us tremendously because i think too, that this team is about ready to turn the corner and become again one of the NFL's consistently best teams....[/quote]

16 td's and 4 picks since week 2 and we really have to sit here and think there's a chance he walks? I think having all this good qb play has made people forget how much garbage we had to sift through to find this gem. Just so you guys don't forget:

Almost 15 wasted years of:
RG "broken" 3
John "can't complete forward passes" Beck!
Sexy Rexy Grossman
Donovan "coasting" Mcnabb
Jason "meh" Campbell/Todd "career backup" Collins
Mark "ancient" Brunell
Patrick "shellshocked" Ramsey
Shane "gunslinger" Matthews!
Danny "college brah" Wuerffel!
Tony "can't remember" Banks
Jeff "get off the stage Ralphie" George!

The last time we had a qb this competent, we let him go to TB and win a Superbowl. Stop trying to fuck this good thing up.

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Snyder is on board with winning, period. This bologna about him possibly not wanting Cousins is totally ridiculous and completely unfounded. Did you see him in the booth last night? He looked like a kid on Christmas FFS.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1156426]Snyder is on board with winning, period. This bologna about him possibly not wanting Cousins is totally ridiculous and completely unfounded. Did you see him in the booth last night? He looked like a kid on Christmas FFS.[/quote]

I was dancing too

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1156427]I was dancing too[/QUOTE]



I can only assume with more rhythm than Snyder. Which is to say any at all.


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Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1156393]In the real world sure, I wouldn't yell in my boss's ear and ruffle his hair. Just like I wouldn't pat my coworkers on the ass or jump on them if they did something good.

Sports are not a typical work environment needless to say.[/QUOTE]



Totally, when you are in the business of talent you can get away with more. When you cannot be replaced easily thru a stack of resumes it is a little different. Lol. Like Stern and his "bosses" before he went on Sirius.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1156420]I don't think he's exactly Rosy about Cousins being our QB and possible franchise quarterback, but at the end of the day I believe that he will let Scott M make the big time decisions. I do wonder now which way he is leaning about Cousins. I'm with the opinion of some of the other posters here, when or IF we let Cousins go, it could really haunt us tremendously because i think too, that this team is about ready to turn the corner and become again one of the NFL's consistently best teams....[/QUOTE]



There just aint no when or "if" we let KC go anymore. Dan Snyder is about as he thrilled as he could be right now with this team, that he would root for even if he were a postman, and you know who is at the heart of that excitement? Yes. KC.
You can stop suggesting that we "might" let him go now. After every game that "might" just gets more ridiculous.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Cousins isn't going anywhere for along time

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Watching the Raiders vs Texans and realizing how fortunate we are to have Cousins instead of Carr and Osweiler. Carr is very good, Osweiler is average at best. At least Shanahan did 2 things right, getting Cousins and Reed.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I have seen Osweiler play a couple of times and, from what I have seen, last night was his best performance by far. I saw one game (don't remember which) where he was just horrible - absolutely no accuracy at all and just not comfortable in the pocket even when not under duress.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1156491]I have seen Osweiler play a couple of times and, from what I have seen, last night was his best performance by far. I saw one game (don't remember which) where he was just horrible - absolutely no accuracy at all and just not comfortable in the pocket even when not under duress.[/quote]

To be fair Brock Osweiler has started 17 regular season games in his entire career. He lacks experience. I am not saying he will be a star or that he will fail. But not to long ago when we had QB's that lacked experience, we had the same issues. Even with KC.
Not all QB's can jump for college to NFL and play well. A few can.

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[quote=mooby;1156423]

Almost 15 wasted years of:
RG "broken" 3
John "can't complete forward passes" Beck!
Sexy Rexy Grossman
Donovan "coasting" Mcnabb
Jason "meh" Campbell/Todd "career backup" Collins
Mark "ancient" Brunell
Patrick "shellshocked" Ramsey
Shane "gunslinger" Matthews!
Danny "college brah" Wuerffel!
Tony "can't remember" Banks
Jeff "get off the stage Ralphie" George!
[/quote]


Oh My God Please Make It Stop!!!!!!!

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1156491]I have seen Osweiler play a couple of times and, from what I have seen, last night was his best performance by far. I saw one game (don't remember which) where he was just horrible - absolutely no accuracy at all and just not comfortable in the pocket even when not under duress.[/quote]

Who would you rather have, Cousins or Carr?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Cousins!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=J. Falcon;1156525]Who would you rather have, Cousins or Carr?[/quote]

Not 100% sure not watching tons of film on Carr, but to me it looks like Cousins has the better arm and a very quick release. When Cousins is in rhythm he gets the ball off almost immediately. Like i said haven't seen tons of Carr, but I believe that Cousins is the better QB

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

NFC Offensive player of the week for Kirk, I like that

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[quote=mtk;1156555]nfc offensive player of the week for kirk, i like that[/quote]

nice!!!

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[url]https://youtu.be/uvAT14KUst0[/url]

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[quote=Bucket;1156569][url]https://youtu.be/uvAT14KUst0[/url][/quote]

I almost cried. This is beautiful.

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[quote=Bucket;1156569][url]https://youtu.be/uvAT14KUst0[/url][/quote]

:laughing-



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New @KirkCousins8 Mix: Kirk Moe Dee "How Ya Like Me Now"
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2:38 PM - 21 Nov 2016

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=Bucket;1156569][url]https://youtu.be/uvAT14KUst0[/url][/QUOTE]



That is awesome. Hahahaha.

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Best fucking quarterback in the league at this particular moment.
His deep ball has become deadly. So accurate. Not making mistakes. Rarely takes a sack. Code red mother lovin trap evading baller. Give the man money and a defense and he can win you a championship.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

yea.....he was pretty good today...that is a quote from Gruden! I got news for you Gruden he was a lot better than you . Cousins is the best QB we have had maybe since Joe T. there is somebody inside this organization that is not sold on Cousins..not sure who it is. Hard to believe its Gruden..maybe Scott?? The redzone breakdown is all play calling. the whole RZ playbook needs a overhaul. remember the cornerFade that didn't work? Gruden trying to defend Fuller..what the heck is Fuller doing on DEZ anyway? another coach issue..the fact that they tried the onside kick tells me Gruden knows we could not stop Dallas so they just sped up the TD..so the question is whats going to happen to shore up this D ??

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Nobody that is anybody important is not sold on Cousins. They may be sold on some dumb idea that you do not need a top tier qb to win. You cannot watch this guy over the last 20 games and see anything other than a qb coming into his prime in a big way.

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Cousins will be here for a long time. Stop making up drama.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1156986]Cousins will be here for a long time. Stop making up drama.[/QUOTE]



But i saw a meme that said that Scot and him don't like each other?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1156977]Best fucking quarterback in the league at this particular moment.
His deep ball has become deadly. So accurate. Not making mistakes. Rarely takes a sack. Code red mother lovin trap evading baller. Give the man money and a defense and he can win you a championship.[/quote]

He will get paid, Scot won't let anything happen don't worry.

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NBC Sports - ProFootballTalk: Report: Washington will tag Kirk Cousins again if they have to
[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/24/report-washington-will-tag-kirk-cousins-again-if-they-have-to/[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1156992]He will get paid, Scot won't let anything happen don't worry.[/QUOTE]



And for that reason I couldn't be happier after a loss to the cowdicks on turkey day. Honestly we got a stud at qb. A straight up assassin.
We will bolster our d. We have Doctson in the waiting room. We have a shit ton of weapons on offense. We just need a few playmakers on the other side. Two? Three? Whatever your feelings are about our staff it would win a shit ton of games with just a few pieces on D. The future is very bright.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1156994]And for that reason I couldn't be happier after a loss to the cowdicks on turkey day. Honestly we got a stud at qb. A straight up assassin.
We will bolster our d. We have Doctson in the waiting room. We have a shit ton of weapons on offense. We just need a few playmakers on the other side. Two? Three? Whatever your feelings are about our staff it would win a shit ton of games with just a few pieces on D. The future is very bright.[/quote]

hardest thing to find is a QB, we have a good one now. He's 28 in his prime for another 6-7 years. We r fine

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

This kid is very impressive. We finally found a franchise QB.

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I do not think this is all about KC. I think it's about the tandem. As long as Gruden is the coach, KC will be our QB. KC is a good QB, but he excels in Gruden's system. While I think it is a little pass happy, it is still a good system.

If the wheels fell off the wagon this year, and the Redskins had to find a new coach, would KC fit the new scheme? If they signed him to a long-term deal last year, they would have had to bring a new coach that runs a version of the west coast offense. Maybe that was part of the reason they brought in Callahan?

Norv Turner is the last coach to make it more than fours years. In today's a lot of coaches do not make it more than 4 years. Jay is 16 in tenure, and I could see him moving up to 13th by the end of the season. It was a smart move not to sign KC to a long-term deal last year. They need to lock up Jay and Kirk and end the drama.

The bigger question is Scot M and Jay. Do they mesh? Jay is about big boy smash mouth football and Jay is a complex passing offense. Can they mesh and work together for 4, 5, or 6 more years?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

That TAG story came out before the game i was baffled by it honestly... starting the drama!

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Per Twitter.

Kirk Cousins put up 41 completions, 449 yards, 3 TD, and no INT. He's the first QB in NFL history to reach those numbers in a single game.

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If you haven't been in awe the last couple of weeks you just don't appreciate great QB play. Kirk has moved his game to an even higher level than where he was in the last 9 games last year.

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He's on pace for 5152 yards [emoji15]

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[quote=MTK;1157043]He's on pace for 5152 yards [emoji15][/quote]

Please remember those numbers do not count because they are inflated. They happened between the 20's and those numbers do not count in football.

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[QUOTE=Bucket;1157022]Per Twitter.

Kirk Cousins put up 41 completions, 449 yards, 3 TD, and no INT. He's the first QB in NFL history to reach those numbers in a single game.[/QUOTE]
Wow

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Gruden/McVay need to scrap the red zone play book and build a brand new one from scratch. I don't think the coaches are putting Cousins in a good position to be successful in the red zone. Its really our only weakness on offense. We fix that, we are a top 3 offense in the NFL.