Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

Yes! Rodgers will probably get $35m a year when it's his turn.

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[quote=Schneed10;1165963]I completely agree and this is how I see it going.

I think the team is either a) playing this as poorly as possible (Snyder is meddling and doesn't want him) or b) playing this as absolutely perfectly as possible by not budging an inch until July 15 when they will have waited out Kirk's leverage and then come up with a reasonable deal as you suggest.

I still think it's B.[/quote]

Agreed.

What would you say the choice of the exclusive tag is telling us on the will of the team to keep or trade KC, as opposed to choosing the non-exclusive tag?

Right now, without a lot of time to think about it, I kind of see it as a sign they would want to negotiate a long term deal:

-they don't want him to approach and be approached by many teams and get crazy offers that turn his head upside down, they want him to be here, to still consider himself a Redskin (even if it's because he doesn't have a choice),

-maybe they also want to have the upper hand to work out a trade with the niners or another team, BUT had they trading KC as the first option in their mind, the non-exclusive tag would have been a better option, let KC work several teams, and statistically increase your chances one would actually want to give up 2 first rounders!



Any way we most probably won't know until July 15th if they played it perfectly or screwed it all the way.

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I’m thrilled about this move. We know we have Kirk for at least one more year. I lot can happen in a year. Winning changes everything. Now if we can keep either Jackson or Garcon, and Doctson makes it onto the field and contributes. We fix some holes in the defense, and the new defensive coordinator is more aggressive. That should put us in a position to do better than we did last season. And hell I didn’t even mention Jordan Reed. He’s the fu-#%$-en man. I’m excited.

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I think the exclusive tag was all about the team trying to keep leverage. Allowing him to talk to teams would likely only drive up the price.

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JP Finlay says the real deadline for a long term deal is the day of the draft. Good point, if they cannot get a long term deal they must trade KC. And find another QB to compete with Colt for the job.

If KC plays the season under the tag, he is gone and they get nothing. (except a compensatory pick). A tag in 2018 would be $30+ million

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I don't necessarily believe a word Bruce Allen says, but if he happens to be telling the truth that the Redskins have no plans whatsoever in trading Kirk Cousins, then the exclusive tag just reassures us that he's a Redskin for 2017. After that? Who knows?

What I'm hoping for is some sort of deal where the brunt of the money happens toward the tail end of the contract so that we're able to get some defensive guys signed and at least Garcon or Jackson.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165980]so you want to pay KC more than Aaron Rodgers ?

[url]https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/[/url][/quote]

Assuming he plays on the tag this year, we already have paid him 44Million in guaranteed cash. At this point only Andrew Luck and Aaron Rodgers had more in their current contracts.

At some point it's about getting a deal in place and saying we have this position finished and done. You can't give him less, it just doesn't work that way with the timing of his rookie contract and the franchise tag policy in place.

Ideally he would take a long term pay that recognizes he's already locked in a tremendous amount of cash, but he is treating it like a business and he is crushing it.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165980]so you want to pay KC more than Aaron Rodgers ?

[url]https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/[/url][/quote]

Yes. I also want to pay Pierre Garcon more than Jerry Rice.

[url=http://articles.latimes.com/1996-08-29/sports/sp-38600_1_jerry-rice]New Rice Contract Worth $32 Million - latimes[/url]

Crazy huh?

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165985]JP Finlay says the real deadline for a long term deal is the day of the draft. Good point, if they cannot get a long term deal they must trade KC. And find another QB to compete with Colt for the job.

If KC plays the season under the tag, he is gone and they get nothing. (except a compensatory pick). A tag in 2018 would be $30+ million[/quote]

I think I read the 2018 transition tag would be just under 30, but would give us right of first refusal. That is likely what will happen if he doesn't sign long term this year.

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[quote=MTK;1165984]I think the exclusive tag was all about the team trying to keep leverage. Allowing him to talk to teams would likely only drive up the price.[/quote]

Right, what little leverage they have. Yesterday's news doesn't really change much in my opinion. Slightly reduces chance he gets traded but I still think that's most likely.

As far as a transition tag next year, highly doubtful

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I'm hoping for a long term contract, but I do see the reason for hesitation. At times, I'm sitting there watching Kirk Cousins play and thinking to myself, "This guy is the real deal! Haven't seen this since the glory years!" At other times, I'm sitting there watching Kirk Cousins and thinking, "He's so close, but he just can't seem to ever make that big play that would define him as a championship caliber quarterback."

So, I'm glad we have him for 2017, but I do expect big things with this team this year, or I can totally see letting him go next season.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1165990]Right, what little leverage they have. Yesterday's news doesn't really change much in my opinion. Slightly reduces chance he gets traded but I still think that's most likely.

As far as a transition tag next year, highly doubtful[/quote]

I highly question you on the trading being likely. Just doesn't make sense unless they get swept off their feet by an offer they can't refuse. I don't think any of us believe that's coming.

It's a stare down till July 15, at which point they'll meet somewhere in the middle. Probably closer to Cousins' number than the Redskins number. But they're going to come up on their offers.

The leaks to the media about Cousins wanting to play elsewhere are just too conveniently timed. I never question what you're hearing, I just question the motive for why we're hearing it.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1165989]I think I read the 2018 transition tag would be just under 30, but would give us right of first refusal. That is likely what will happen if he doesn't sign long term this year.[/quote]

I believe the rules are different if you tag players for 3 years in a row....not sure of the exact number, but it was over $30 million

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[quote=Irrefutable;1165994]I believe the rules are different if you tag players for 3 years in a row....not sure of the exact number, but it was over $30 million[/quote]

That's if you franchise him for a 3rd year in a row - the number would be $34M. CRed is suggesting the Transition Tag, not the franchise tag. It's an entirely different thing.

The number for that would be $28M.

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Good read:

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18793866]Kirk Cousins' trade value and the NFL-wide impact of the drama in D.C. - 2017 NFL offseason[/url]

A swap of first-rounders makes more sense, with Washington exchanging the 17th pick for the second selection. Chase Stuart's draft value chart measures that swap as worth 13.6 points of draft capital, roughly equivalent to the 27th selection in a typical draft. The 49ers have two fourth-round picks after picking up a compensatory selection for Alex Boone; maybe they send the 109th selection to Washington and get the fifth-round pick Washington grabbed from the Saints (154) in return. Now we're up to 15.8 points of draft capital, roughly equivalent to the 19th pick.

The 49ers could finish out the deal by including Eric Reid, who has been an excellent safety at times while struggling with various injuries. Washington has been a mess at safety over the past several seasons, and Reid -- in the fifth-year option of his rookie deal -- would be a massive upgrade on DeAngelo Hall and Donte Whitner in the defensive backfield. This wouldn't be fair market value for Cousins, but picking up Reid and what amounts to a mid-first round pick for a player who doesn't want to be in town and is likely to leave after the season would make sense.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1165990]Right, what little leverage they have. Yesterday's news doesn't really change much in my opinion. Slightly reduces chance he gets traded but I still think that's most likely.

As far as a transition tag next year, highly doubtful[/quote]

Smoot we all value your input, and I hesitate to ask to much because it must get annoying, but (always ignore everything before the but...) If the holdup really is in the Skins high front office, how much influence or job cred do SM and JG have to use up to get a deal pushed through. Asked another way, do you have any idea how dug in are DSBA against a long term deal?

Thanks as always for your insight.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1165990]Right, what little leverage they have. Yesterday's news doesn't really change much in my opinion. Slightly reduces chance he gets traded but I still think that's most likely.

As far as a transition tag next year, highly doubtful[/quote]

I think the tag really wasn't news...

But was that a purposeful leak late yesterday? "Redskins would have to be blown away with a trade offer to move Cousins"

Was that speculation or a leak...if you know. That will tell me/us a lot.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1165997]Good read:

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18793866]Kirk Cousins' trade value and the NFL-wide impact of the drama in D.C. - 2017 NFL offseason[/url]

A swap of first-rounders makes more sense, with Washington exchanging the 17th pick for the second selection. Chase Stuart's draft value chart measures that swap as worth 13.6 points of draft capital, roughly equivalent to the 27th selection in a typical draft. The 49ers have two fourth-round picks after picking up a compensatory selection for Alex Boone; maybe they send the 109th selection to Washington and get the fifth-round pick Washington grabbed from the Saints (154) in return. Now we're up to 15.8 points of draft capital, roughly equivalent to the 19th pick.

The 49ers could finish out the deal by including Eric Reid, who has been an excellent safety at times while struggling with various injuries. Washington has been a mess at safety over the past several seasons, and Reid -- in the fifth-year option of his rookie deal -- would be a massive upgrade on DeAngelo Hall and Donte Whitner in the defensive backfield. This wouldn't be fair market value for Cousins, but picking up Reid and what amounts to a mid-first round pick for a player who doesn't want to be in town and is likely to leave after the season would make sense.[/quote]

Meh. Let's just pick out a trade scenario that would give the Redskins the equivalent of a first round pick and call it reasonable. Nevermind that it's not at all grounded in reality. You call it a good read, I call it mental masturbation.

Every action taken by the team so far suggests they intend to negotiate with Cousins to reach a long term deal. They hit him with the exclusive tag so nobody can talk with him. It also makes sure nobody can sign him to an offer sheet, meaning the Redskins wouldn't even be happy with two first round picks in return.

And who the hell is going to do all this work to offer the Redskins trade compensation without first being able to speak with Cousins about terms on a long term deal? John Lynch is not going to do that. He's already busy making other plans at QB.

Until you see the team actually grant permission to Cousins to talk with other teams, he's a Redskin. They clearly intend to take it down to the wire and get him for the best deal they can in July.

Don't be swayed by media rumors and dumbass conjecture like the crap linked in this piece. Rap Sheet said it: the Skins are not trading Cousins. War game this thing yourself, you can see where it's inevitably headed. It's a high stakes wrestling match to keep the $ figures reasonable.

I can't understand why more people can't see it.

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Actions speak louder than words. Leaks to the media should not be trusted when they just so happen to come out at critical inflection points.

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I am going to take so much joy on July 15 in making fun of all the sheep who bit on Daniel Jeremiah's bullshit.

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[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/61983/Sources--Patriots-not-planning-to-trade-Garoppolo/Default.aspx]Sources: Patriots not planning to trade Garoppolo[/url]

If this is true it will ratchet up Kirkys trade value.

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Get your asses in the barn, sheep.

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18796371/washington-redskins-coach-jay-gruden-confident-team-come-agreement-kirk-cousins]Washington Redskins coach Jay Gruden confident team will come to agreement with Kirk Cousins[/url]

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[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-cousins-agent-will-meet-nfl-combine]Redskins, Cousins agent will meet at the NFL Combine | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;1166000]Meh. Let's just pick out a trade scenario that would give the Redskins the equivalent of a first round pick and call it reasonable. Nevermind that it's not at all grounded in reality. You call it a good read, I call it mental masturbation.

Every action taken by the team so far suggests they intend to negotiate with Cousins to reach a long term deal. They hit him with the exclusive tag so nobody can talk with him. It also makes sure nobody can sign him to an offer sheet, meaning the Redskins wouldn't even be happy with two first round picks in return.

And who the hell is going to do all this work to offer the Redskins trade compensation without first being able to speak with Cousins about terms on a long term deal? John Lynch is not going to do that. He's already busy making other plans at QB.

Until you see the team actually grant permission to Cousins to talk with other teams, he's a Redskin. They clearly intend to take it down to the wire and get him for the best deal they can in July.

Don't be swayed by media rumors and dumbass conjecture like the crap linked in this piece. Rap Sheet said it: the Skins are not trading Cousins. War game this thing yourself, you can see where it's inevitably headed. [B]It's a high stakes wrestling match to keep the $ figures reasonable.[/B]

I can't understand why more people can't see it.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, we're talking about more money than most of us will make in a lifetime, that kind of negotiation just takes time, I'd say about as much time as it's allowed to last...

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1165997]Good read:

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18793866]Kirk Cousins' trade value and the NFL-wide impact of the drama in D.C. - 2017 NFL offseason[/url]

A swap of first-rounders makes more sense, with Washington exchanging the 17th pick for the second selection. Chase Stuart's draft value chart measures that swap as worth 13.6 points of draft capital, roughly equivalent to the 27th selection in a typical draft. The 49ers have two fourth-round picks after picking up a compensatory selection for Alex Boone; maybe they send the 109th selection to Washington and get the fifth-round pick Washington grabbed from the Saints (154) in return. Now we're up to 15.8 points of draft capital, roughly equivalent to the 19th pick.

The 49ers could finish out the deal by including Eric Reid, who has been an excellent safety at times while struggling with various injuries. Washington has been a mess at safety over the past several seasons, and Reid -- in the fifth-year option of his rookie deal -- would be a massive upgrade on DeAngelo Hall and Donte Whitner in the defensive backfield. This wouldn't be fair market value for Cousins, but picking up Reid and what amounts to a mid-first round pick for a player who doesn't want to be in town and is likely to leave after the season would make sense.[/quote]

Why would you look at draft chart values for a trade like this? It just doesn't apply. Picture a Redskin as having the last bottle of water in the desert (Kirk) when a dying 49er crawls over the dune willing to pay anything for it. Then determine what the Skins might ask for Kirk.

First of all, we don't need to trade Kirk. Personally, I wouldn't do it.

Secondly, who cares if Kirk doesn't want to be here? Tough luck for him. He's tagged. It's his job. Also, he's not involved in any discussion of trade pieces. So, that's not a factor.

Third, who says he's likely to leave after this season? A long-term deal can still get done.

Fourth, as I suggested with the trite water in the desert analogy, Kirk is worth way more to SF than to any other trade partner. SF has been a vast wasteland for QB play for some time now. Kirk has played and played well in Kyle Shanahan's system. The time required for Kirk to learn and become proficient in Kyle's offense is virtually nil. Kyle loves Kirk and knows that he can and will win with Kirk as his QB. Kyle's GM, John Lynch, also is a big fan of Kirk as an NFL QB. And I could go on...

As I said, you need to recalculate what SF would be willing to pay.

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[quote=Schneed10;1166007][url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-cousins-agent-will-meet-nfl-combine]Redskins, Cousins agent will meet at the NFL Combine | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url][/quote]

[I]McCartney strongly hinted that their position would start with making Cousins one of the highest-paid quarterbacks in the game.[/I]

And that right there is what makes this contract a pain in the ass.
The Redskins have to believe that Cousins is a top ten QB.
Cause then hes gonna get feck you Hollywood money.
We did not make the playoffs last year.
I think if we had a real pass rush we would have and then he would [I]look like[/I] a top 10.
Top 12 for sure.

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[quote=Schneed10;1166007][url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-cousins-agent-will-meet-nfl-combine]Redskins, Cousins agent will meet at the NFL Combine | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url][/quote]

[I]“Eric Schaffer, [B]who’s a great guy and works hard for the Redskins[/B], and I are going to get together this week,” McCartney told Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on SiriusXM NFL Radio on Tuesday, just a few hours after the Redskins announced that they had placed the exclusive franchise tag on Cousins.[/I]

It sure does sound like the two sides are getting closer to that long-term deal that most of us want. I'm starting to get excited about it.

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[quote=Schneed10;1166006]Get your asses in the barn, sheep.

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18796371/washington-redskins-coach-jay-gruden-confident-team-come-agreement-kirk-cousins]Washington Redskins coach Jay Gruden confident team will come to agreement with Kirk Cousins[/url][/quote]

I was as optimistic as you are now, but this is a quote from your link:

[quote]"Both parties have to come up with something," Gruden said. "We can offer him the world, but if he doesn't want to sign it, he doesn't have to sign it. And then we have to do maybe a better job."[/quote]

If KC simply doesn't want to play long term here, than a deal isn't going to get done. I hope that he and his agent are simply using their advantage to maximize the contract. But we won't know till it's signed sealed and done.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1166011][I]“Eric Schaffer, [B]who’s a great guy and works hard for the Redskins[/B], and I are going to get together this week,” McCartney told Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on SiriusXM NFL Radio on Tuesday, just a few hours after the Redskins announced that they had placed the exclusive franchise tag on Cousins.[/I]

It sure does sound like the two sides are getting closer to that long-term deal that most of us want. I'm starting to get excited about it.[/quote]

Make no mistake, they are still quite far apart, but they're going to meet.

My guess, they won't make much progress at the combine. Why? Because they don't have to. The Redskins know that as long as the 49ers don't have a QB, they'll remain a possibility in Kirk's mind. So they'll want to wait that out. The Redskins also know now whether they intend to bring their offers up to a reasonable place, or whether they don't. They're just not telling anybody.

The combine will end and they'll be apart, and we'll hear shit, and we'll all get worried. But all the while the Redskins will know that they plan to increase their offer in July.

Either that, or we'll eventually hear that the Redskins granted Cousins permission to seek a trade. Every action the team has taken thus far has been contrary to that being the case. But I guess it's possible.

Regardless, don't freak out if the progress doesn't come as fast as you'd like. As long as you don't hear that they're actually speaking with other teams or have given Cousins permission to do so, and I mean from a very reputable media source like Schefter or Rap Sheet, then take it as a good thing. It means they continue the dance until July 15 when shit gets real and they all put their cards on the table.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1166012]I was as optimistic as you are now, but this is a quote from your link:



If KC simply doesn't want to play long term here, than a deal isn't going to get done. I hope that he and his agent are simply using their advantage to maximize the contract. But we won't know till it's signed sealed and done.[/quote]

You're right. But that doesn't make sense given what we know about Kirk:

- He loves familiarity
- He's had great success here
- He's well protected behind this line
- He wants to be wanted. Once the team shows its cards and ups its offer into the low $20Ms per year, he'll feel wanted.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1165998]Smoot we all value your input, and I hesitate to ask to much because it must get annoying, but (always ignore everything before the but...) If the holdup really is in the Skins high front office, how much influence or job cred do SM and JG have to use up to get a deal pushed through. Asked another way, do you have any idea how dug in are DSBA against a long term deal?

Thanks as always for your insight.[/quote]

I don't honestly know. I just know that they (Skins and Cousins) are far apart and the Redskins have not been slowly moving their number up. Now, of course, push is coming to shove so that may accelerate things

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[quote=Schneed10;1165993]I highly question you on the trading being likely. Just doesn't make sense unless they get swept off their feet by an offer they can't refuse. I don't think any of us believe that's coming.

It's a stare down till July 15, at which point they'll meet somewhere in the middle. Probably closer to Cousins' number than the Redskins number. But they're going to come up on their offers.

The leaks to the media about Cousins wanting to play elsewhere are just too conveniently timed. I never question what you're hearing, I just question the motive for why we're hearing it.[/quote]

Well, if you have no intention of signing him to a long term deal then you need to take whatever you can get because you'll end up losing him for nothing come next year. At this point KC has all the leverage really, and I doubt he signs anything less than 22-24mil/year.

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[quote=Schneed10;1166014]You're right. But that doesn't make sense given what we know about Kirk:

- He loves familiarity
- He's had great success here
- He's well protected behind this line
[B]- He wants to be wanted. Once the team shows its cards and ups its offer into the low $20Ms per year, he'll feel wanted.[/B][/quote]

I get that last year their numbers felt slighted, but I take a [B]huge[/B] exception to him needing any more evidence of feeling wanted. The Skins have staked $44M to his being the qb with NO guarantee from him that he will sign a long term deal. Just to clarify, and I know you know this, without a long term deal to offset the guarantees, that will have been 44M off the top of the Skins Salary cap. Hell we were all griping when the league took 36M over 2 years. I know that 44M now is not equal to 36M then, but the point is that is a huge commitment (even the 20M was last year).

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[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18793866/kirk-cousins-trade-value-nfl-wide-impact-drama-dc-2017-nfl-offseason]Kirk Cousins' trade value and the NFL-wide impact of the drama in D.C. - 2017 NFL offseason[/url]

Good read, kind of puts all in perspective.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1166016]Well, if you have no intention of signing him to a long term deal then you need to take whatever you can get because you'll end up losing him for nothing come next year. [B]At this point KC has all the leverage really, and I doubt he signs anything less than 22-24mil/year.[/B][/quote]

I would agree, that is about the number I think they're headed to. On July 15 the cards will go on the table and they'll show pocket aces for Kirk and 7 2 unsuited for the Skins. They'll come up and it will get signed.

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Basically, I think they already know that they're planning on upping their offer eventually, they're just trying to wait the 49ers out and watch them make a move at QB.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1166015]I don't honestly know. I just know that they (Skins and Cousins) are far apart and the Redskins have not been slowly moving their number up. Now, of course, push is coming to shove so that may accelerate things[/QUOTE]
Yeah but do they value him as a top 5 QB? That's the Q

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If a trade happens, it's going to happen soon, obviously. I would think in the next couple of weeks. If it hasn't happened by the start of free agency, I think the 49ers will take a quarterback in free agency, even if he's a one year stop gap.

I'm just thinking one of two things will happen. Cousins is either traded or he signs a long term deal. I just don't think he plays 2017 under the tag.

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I'm starting to feel better: [url]http://m.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Allen-On-Cousins-Hes-Really-Proved-Himself/4282dc2c-4a3c-4936-bcc1-b86b6a5053f2[/url]


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1166021]Yeah but do they value him as a top 5 QB? That's the Q[/quote]

That's really not the question because the contract inflation rate for NFL QB's is astronomical. The contracts of the top QB's would somehow need to be converted into today's NFL QB contract dollars to make a comparison of their contracts with Kirk's projected contract numbers.

In addition, the Skins bucked convention by not negotiating a long-term contract with Kirk before he proved himself over more than one season. I can hardly blame Skins management for that because they must have been appalled by the big deals signed by unproven QB's turned turds like Kaepernick and Osweiler. Nevertheless, they could have had Kirk at a more reasonable price if they had signed him to a long-term deal prior to last season.

My primary point here is that the Skins have waited longer to sign Kirk to a long-term deal than others have done in the past and so, due to runaway inflation in the cost of NFL QB's, they necessarily opened themselves up to having to pay Kirk much more than they would have if they had taken the conventional approach. They had to know he would cost more this season and they must have decided that it was worth the cost of waiting to find out for certain whether or not Kirk was the right QB to lead this team into the future.

If Kirk had signed a long-term contract last season, how reasonable would that deal look right now, a year from now, two years from now?