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[quote=Jake2008;476975]Go back and look, Moss has to slow down to catch it. If the back wasn't burned so badly by Moss he could have knocked it down and came close to doing that anyway.[/quote]

It was still a great throw and a great play all around.

I think you're really nitpicking this.

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[quote=Mattyk72;477018]It was still a great throw and a great play all around.

I think you're really nitpicking this.[/quote]


Agree, again. Moss is like lightening out there.. he often has to slow down to catch balls. I don't think that means JC didn't throw it perfectly.

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Campbell is still catching heat? Unbelievable. I saw a lot of progress. Not bad for the 2nd game. I fully expect him to continue. Does'nt mean every game will be great but he is improving in this offense. Is'nt that what good quarterbacks do? Is'nt that what we were looking for? Underthrown to Moss? Get real dude. That was a great play all around.

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I am glad that Jason got a win yesterday and he was the one that got it done because I feel that people in this town are too tempermental and they want things done right away and want him to be great right off the bat. I am glad that he got the win and he delivered in great fashion. I do agree with Riggins that he can't let this get to his head because we don't want a let down at home against the Cardinals. We need to protect homefield advantage on this one.

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In addition, some fans need to back off and stop with this we need Colt Brennan now. It ain't going to happen unless Campbell and Collins go down and I don't see that happening. I am pleased for Jason Campbell and I think that he is going to be good and people need to show some patients because all the games won't be like yesterday. There are going to be some growing pains, but I think that this is going in the right direction.

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[quote=hesscl34;477019]Agree, again. Moss is like lightening out there.. he often has to slow down to catch balls. I don't think that means JC didn't throw it perfectly.[/quote]

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with JC's arm.

Did you see how far he threw it on the last TD? It was right on the money too.

A Collins throw would've been 15 yards shorter and an interception...not that he'd even attempt a pass that long. :D

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[quote=Angry;477011]For fuck sake I never said he was Vick. I was making a reference to his passing woes. Thats all.

GOOD JOB CAMPBELL

NOW DO IT NEXT WEEK![/quote]

It was an asinine reference. If you saw Campbell play at all last year then you would know that his struggles came more from the poor offensive line play (Thomas and Jansen gone and no LG until trade for Kendall) and piss poor wideout play. So don't get all pissy because you made a horrible comparison.

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[quote=memphisskin;477088]It was an asinine reference. If you saw Campbell play at all last year then you would know that his struggles came more from the poor offensive line play (Thomas and Jansen gone and no LG until trade for Kendall) and piss poor wideout play. So don't get all pissy because you made a horrible comparison.[/quote]

Whatever, agree to disagree, moving on. I'm done.

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[quote=memphisskin;477088]It was an asinine reference. If you saw Campbell play at all last year then you would know that his struggles came more from the poor offensive line play (Thomas and Jansen gone and no LG until trade for Kendall) and piss poor wideout play. So don't get all pissy because you made a horrible comparison.[/quote]

It was a horrible comparison but I do not agree that JC's poor play last year came from offensive line or piss poor wideout play. Sorry, I do not agree with that at all. Collins did just fine with that O line and the wideouts.

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Ignorance is bliss. To compare Jason to Vick is ridiculous. JC is a much better pocket passer. To say this is his first 300 yard game. Further proves my point. He has had more than one good game. But sometimes other things cause you to lose games. Dropped balls. Poor run defense and other variables. NO one is hyping JC up to be Montana or Elway.

Some fans are just tired of all the uneducated bashing. I can throw one game out there and a couple more but the Detroit game last year was one of his good performances also. But this is a team sport. For those bashing JC realize that even his last game wasn't as bad as people made it out to be (no turnovers - decent completion percentage) and he made signifigant improvement this game. Getting the ball out quicker and receivers were helping him by getting open and we had a better run game. Comparing him to Vick draws the conclusion of why you really hate him. Because they are nothing alike.

No one is blowing this win out of proportion. It just proves that all the haters don't know football. This thread is idiotic.

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[quote=hesscl34;477108]It was a horrible comparison but I do not agree that JC's poor play last year came from offensive line or piss poor wideout play. Sorry, I do not agree with that at all. Collins did just fine with that O line and the wideouts.[/quote]

Yeah after the O-line started playing better with time later in the year and the receivers were healthier also. They had just started to gel. I am not saying anything else. JC will make some people eat crow. Get yor hot sauce ready.

People can't be happy with the win. Even when he plays good people still hate him. Why?

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;477112]Yeah after the O-line started playing better with time later in the year and the receivers were healthier also. They had just started to gel. I am not saying anything else. JC will make some people eat crow. Get yor hot sauce ready.

People can't be happy with the win. Even when he plays good people still hate him. Why?[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I am one that will totally back him if he consistently does well. The use of the word hater and idiots around here is a bit over done. People want to see him play that well over and over again, and I don't blame them. If you are realistic you know that JC played many more games poorly then he has played like he did on Sunday, so of course you are going to have doubters. Just ask Riggo and the boys on 980. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I loved what I saw on Sunday and not because the O line and wideouts did their job. I saw confidence and I saw poise and I saw JC change what he's done before that wasn’t working. THAT is growth, and I'm all for it.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]OK, since we can't leave stuff alone. Here is what I was drawing the comparison from.

How many times did Vick miss a deep target?

How many times did Vicks receivers drop passes when he did hit them?

How many times was Vick accused of holding the ball too long?

Do any of the above questions seem familiar?

[B]I was never comparing the abilities of the two QB's, I was comparing the similar problems and scrutiny due to those problems.[/B]

Furthermore, when Vick had that one great game, he sat down at his press conference and told the press that his performance that day should shut up all of the critics because he had proved that he could pass in the pocket. (PARAPHRASING)

In reality he only shut them up for a week because the very next game, it was the same old Vick, missing the deep ones and having his WR's drop the rest.

[B]Campbell[/B][B] did an OUTSTANDING job this week. But can he do it again, and again, and again?[/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=hesscl34;477117][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I am one that will totally back him if he consistently does well. The use of the word hater and idiots around here is a bit over done. People want to see him play that well over and over again, and I don't blame them. If you are realistic you know that JC played many more games poorly then he has played like he did on Sunday, so of course you are going to have doubters. Just ask Riggo and the boys on 980. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I loved what I saw on Sunday and not because the O line and wideouts did their job. I saw confidence and I saw poise and I saw JC change what he's done before that wasn’t working. THAT is growth, and I'm all for it.[/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

Well what other word should be used besides hater when JC does good and people still want him to fail for some reason???? Exactly!

he is going to have good games and bad games. Who has perfect games every Sunday. Evening Peyton Manning has poor games. The O-line and wide outs do make a difference and if you have a o-line is protecting you you can gain more confidence because you have a chance to make throws.

As far as the Vick comparisions. There are other Qbs that have missed long passes and have had receivers drop balls. So the comparison is not a good one. Vick made his living running the ball. JC doesn't. Vick was a running QB. JC is more of a pocket passer by far. Be happy we won and stop trying to find things to criticize. Are you more about JC failing or us winning. Ponder that for a minute.

JC is not Ryan Leaf!! You have to give a QB a chance to grow. He will make mistakes but it only makes him better. I have seen far more horrible QBs. People have to be patient. He hasn't even had two full seasons yet. Eli Manning was given time to develop look at him now.

Imagine if we had Rex Grossman, Jon Kitna or someone like that. Then you would have vailidity to your arguement.

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[quote=53Fan;477033]Campbell is still catching heat? Unbelievable. I saw a lot of progress. Not bad for the 2nd game. I fully expect him to continue. Does'nt mean every game will be great but he is improving in this offense. Is'nt that what good quarterbacks do? Is'nt that what we were looking for? Underthrown to Moss? Get real dude. That was a great play all around.[/quote]

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