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He must be quite the magician to put up the numbers that he does with only 4 good passes per game. :doh:

He hasn't missed a significant amount of games since 2006.

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If Philly trades McNabb this is the biggest gamble I can remember in a long long time with a team getting rid of such a franchise player who really means so much to that team over the last decade with all those playoff appearances. Other examples: Farve to me not as much, sense Aaron Rodgers has really stepped up and been a beast the last couple years, Moss leaving the Vikings, they were rebuilding and obviously have done well. Bledsoe leaving the Pats and Brady taking the reigns was a great move. Of course its not all about the QB, and I think Andy Reid is an over acheiving coach and has been awesome for Philly, but I think this is an extremely risky move to lose McNabb at this point. I wouldnt be for it if I was a filthy fan...

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I just have to laugh at these Philly fans that are already booting McNabb out the door. They have no clue how lucky they've been to have a top notch QB all these years.

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[quote=Mattyk;679764]I just have to laugh at these Philly fans that are already booting McNabb out the door. They have no clue how lucky they've been to have a top notch QB all these years.[/quote]

yeah, McNabb has never really gotten the credit he deserves in Philly, probably would if they could've beaten NE in 05 super bowl. I think it's sad to see a player leave after being w/a team all of his 10+ years. Also think Philly is gambling a bit early on this.

Is Kolb a fa after this year? That would certainly put them in a dilemna a make more sense of trading McNabb if that's the case.

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If I'm not mistaken, I think this is the last year for all 3 qbs.

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[quote=Mattyk;679764]I just have to laugh at these Philly fans that are already booting McNabb out the door. They have no clue how lucky they've been to have a top notch QB all these years.[/quote]

ive been scratching my head at all the philly fans hate towards mcnabb. maybe my view on him is different b/c i can remember so many games where he led an inept eagles team to victory over the skins for so many years. compared to our qbs like banks, weurfel, matthews, brunell, etc.

but i do assume they watch their team closer than i and know the little things mcnabb does. i remember watching an eagles game with some eagles fans, they were constanty saying he throws to many into the ground. that day, it did seem like a noticeable bit of his throws were off target or in the ground.

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Seriously, they have no idea what it feels like to be searching for a QB for 15 years lol

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He's definitely scattershot, but he's got a cannon. Dude can whip the ball down field. But from 5-15 yds away, his inaccuracy can be brutal.

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McNabb was a no-show for their "voluntary" workouts yesterday.



I'd love to see him go to Oakland:

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[quote=over the mountain;679816]ive been scratching my head at all the philly fans hate towards mcnabb. maybe my view on him is different b/c i can remember so many games where he led an inept eagles team to victory over the skins for so many years. compared to our qbs like banks, weurfel, matthews, brunell, etc.

but i do assume they watch their team closer than i and know the little things mcnabb does. i remember watching an eagles game with some eagles fans, they were constanty saying he throws to many into the ground. that day, it did seem like a noticeable bit of his throws were off target or in the ground.[/quote]

i think philly fans just have different expectations. they've been a very very good team for a long time. they're frustrated they arent a great team and, as the face of the franchise, the QB takes the brunt of the criticism. By contrast, we've been putrid for decades. we just want to be respectable again.

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[quote=Mattyk;679764]I just have to laugh at these Philly fans that are already booting McNabb out the door. They have no clue how lucky they've been to have a top notch QB all these years.[/quote]I certainly think McNabb's better than many Philly fans want to give him credit for being, but I certainly wouldn't suggest that they've been any luckier at the Quarterback position than we have. They just simply know how to have a consistently successful passing game even with a Quarterback who makes a bunch of mistakes.

There's nothing Philly has done with their passing productivity that we should be jealous of or that we couldn't have replicated with the QBs we've had the last five or six years and a similar philosophy/attention to detail. It's the system they have in place that makes it obvious to point out that Kolb will likely be more successful than McNabb...the Steve Young to McNabb's Montana, if you will.

I mean, on one hand you can laugh at the Philly fans who don't understand that not every quarterback in the league can go in and provide what McNabb has for a decade, but speaking from a Redskins fans prospective doesn't exactly lend itself to credibility here. There's a sizable minority of Redskins fans that would be completely dumbstruck by the results of any objective analysis of Jason Campbell's career. Only three quarterbacks drafted since 2005 have accrued more passing DYAR than Campbell: Rodgers, Ryan, and Cutler, and none of those guys are more than a half season or so ahead of him at this point.

McNabb's been very good for a long time, but if he's not the future there, now is as good a time as any to make the switch.

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[quote=GTripp0012;679979]McNabb's been very good for a long time, but if he's not the future there, now is as good a time as any to make the switch.[/quote]

That's all you needed to say

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[quote=Mattyk;679744]He must be quite the magician to put up the numbers that he does with only 4 good passes per game. :doh:

He hasn't missed a significant amount of games since 2006.[/quote]


Ok, I apologize. I may have exagerated my opinion. I feel exactly as Gtripp put it but I will add that my "opinion" is he is not as good as he was a few yrs ago. I (my opinion) think his talents are waning. Obviously due to age he's not going to get better and due to his injuries in his past he's less mobile. I'll also add that I think the Reid found a decent way to accentuate the positives in McNabb.

I personally have seen since his injury a couple of years ago (knee I think) he is more skitish in the pocket. The longer he has to hold the ball in the pocket the more skitish he gets.

This is my sole opinion. I didn't mean to say he sucks. I simply said I wish he would stay in Philli cause we knew what we had to go up against in Philli and the last few yrs we have not done bad even though we lost. In other words we came up with a good game plan against him. Kolbe is an unknown. Kolbe may be more mobile. Maybe have a stronger arm for he long ball. Maybe more accurate. Thats all I'm saying.

and.... if I had to pick between McNabb of today or Campbell I'd pick Campbell simply due to his age and health. If you are comparing JC to McNabb of early yrs then it's obvious I'd pick McNabb.

But when it comes to Philli I think its their system. One in which they have been in for several yrs. Plus it's a good system Reid is running. I think Kolbe will have a good showing if given the chance. Thats all.

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Statistically:

McNabb;

TD's- 22
INT- 10
YRDS- 3,553
RTG- 92.9

JC;

TD's- 20
INT- 15
YRDS-3,618
RTG- 86.4

Funny, 2 less TD's and 5 more INT's gives you 6 more points in the ratings. :) JC even threw for more yrds. I guess the arguement is McNabb did better with less yrds. JC only threw for 65 more yrds though which could easily have been one play. Maybe two.

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[quote=SBXVII;680009]Statistically:

McNabb;

TD's- 22
INT- 10
YRDS- 3,553
RTG- 92.9

JC;

TD's- 20
INT- 15
YRDS-3,618
RTG- 86.4

Funny, 2 less TD's and 5 more INT's gives you 6 more points in the ratings. :) JC even threw for more yrds. I guess the arguement is McNabb did better with less yrds. JC only threw for 65 more yrds though which could easily have been one play. Maybe two.[/quote]

I like playing the stats game. :)


McNabb - 267/443, 60.3%, sacked 35 times, 140 rush yards
Campbell - 327/507, 64.5% sacked 43 times, 236 rush yards


JC - more accurate passer, better runner, despite having a far worse offensive line and no weapon like DeSean Jackson.