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Losing faith in Shanahan very quickly. He seems like a very egomanical control freak with all his game playing/ He says he is going to be honest with McNabb as he moves forward with the qb evaluation. When has Shanahan been honest with anyone this year? I am weary of the mess that is the Redskins.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;770106]Btw where has Aceinthehouse been?? He hasn't said much as of late[/quote]

Doesn't have much to say I suppose.

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Not usually a fan of Matt Mosley at espn but he said McNabb will be fine in either Minnesota or Arizona but with Shanahan at the helm of the Redskins we cannot be so sure we will be. I think he may be right on this point.

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I can live with Shanny's demotion of McNabb. He wants to see if Rex can run the offense and perhaps be a bridge to our next drafted QB. I get that. His style may rub players the wrong way but if he gets us into the playoffs by 2012-then that's fine by me. He is not a coach who is going to bend his system to his players. It's going to be the other way around. Time will tell if that philosophy works or not.

However, Shanny the GM needs to be held accountable for the 2nd and 4th that he gave up for a one year McNabb rental. That's a Cerratoesque mistake. With this team needing players in almost every position--he can't afford to have misses like this.

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[quote=NYCSkin;770114]I can live with Shanny's demotion of McNabb. He wants to see if Rex can run the offense and perhaps be a bridge to our next drafted QB. I get that. His style may rub players the wrong way but if he gets us into the playoffs by 2012-then that's fine by me. He is not a coach who is going to bend his system to his players. It's going to be the other way around. Time will tell if that philosophy works or not.

However, Shanny the GM needs to be held accountable for the 2nd and 4th that he gave up for a one year McNabb rental. That's a Cerratoesque mistake. With this team needing players in almost every position--he can't afford to have misses like this.[/quote]Best 150 word summary of the situation yet.

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I think what I am thinking is:

we havent had a real football [B]team[/B] in DC since Marty left. That was the last time I really felt good about the skins direction as an organization. What I remember from that season was - Darrell Green being called out in Training camp and unhappy vets.

Since then it has been the just a couple of players away mentality.

We havent been able to get a plan together and stick to it long enough to make progress. Saint Joe came back to save the franchise, not (and there is a HUGE difference) to be the best coach he could be. Not that he didnt try relly hard, he just wasnt as commited as he was the first time. OBC and Zorny were horrid and out of thier league...now we have a legit coach who is still very hungry after being canned in Denver. Not that different than Marty.

I guess what I am saying is - this might be the "breaking" we need. This might be the event that really starts to clear the roster and change the culture of the team. I know that right now it looks and effing feels like the same old BS we have lived with....except one thing; as far as I can tell this is based on performance. I am actually glad we are evaluating for next year.

I am however well aware and gunshy of our last 8 years of clownassery that has put us in this position. As the eternal skins optomist I am actually pleased. as a realist I am dreading what this will lead to.

This drivel is what being a skins fan has reduced me to

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If only we could have hired Harbaugh instead of Shanahan.

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[quote=Kope;770118]I think what I am thinking is:

we havent had a real football [B]team[/B] in DC since Marty left. That was the last time I really felt good about the skins direction as an organization. What I remember from that season was - Darrell Green being called out in Training camp and unhappy vets.

Since then it has been the just a couple of players away mentality.

We havent been able to get a plan together and stick to it long enough to make progress. Saint Joe came back to save the franchise, not (and there is a HUGE difference) to be the best coach he could be. Not that he didnt try relly hard, he just wasnt as commited as he was the first time. OBC and Zorny were horrid and out of thier league...now we have a legit coach who is still very hungry after being canned in Denver. Not that different than Marty.

I guess what I am saying is - this might be the "breaking" we need. This might be the event that really starts to clear the roster and change the culture of the team. I know that right now it looks and effing feels like the same old BS we have lived with....except one thing; as far as I can tell this is based on performance. I am actually glad we are evaluating for next year.

I am however well aware and gunshy of our last 8 years of clownassery that has put us in this position. As the eternal skins optomist I am actually pleased. as a realist I am dreading what this will lead to.

This drivel is what being a skins fan has reduced me to[/quote]

The only problem with this is that grabbing McNabb was the new FO's own prerogative.

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[quote=GMScud;769707]Between the week 8 benching in Detroit, the piss poor clock management, the Haynesworth ordeal, and now this, I'd say they already look like idiots. And according to Kelli Johnson, MS has lost the locker room.

Sweet. Our latest "savior" only took 13 weeks to lose the team.

I'm beside myself right now. This is just the cherry on top of a blunder-filled season.[/quote]

Don't worry about Shanny losing the locker room cause next year it wont be many of the same players coming back.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;769722]I don't like this move.

But.

If this is a lost season, and obviously it is. We might as well see what everyone brings to the table in live games. That said, Rabach ought not start either.

I am a Skins fan, but they sure make it hard to be.[/quote]

Don't worry about this qb move remember it's a business. I guess Philly got thhe better of the trade with a 2nd possible 3rd or 4th pick this season. Oh wait Philly gets a 3rd rd pick if McNabb meets a clause in the trade, could that be 1 reason we sit Mcnabb so Philly gets the 4th rd pick. The Saints would get our 3rd pick if Philly gets the 4th. Either way if McNabb does not come back next season what a waste of draft picks. Should have just sucked it up with JC 1 more year. Keep the faith it has to get better HTTR

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[quote=skins89moss;770122] Keep the faith it has to get better HTTR[/quote]

Amen brother. HTTR

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Many of the top coaches run their teams like Shanny is now. He is looking for the most prefessional and devotred players to play for his team.

Patriots
Steelers
Colts

All of these teams run the same way, and Shanny is doing no different in Washington. It's his way! To many times have we brought Vets in here to collect paychecks on the low end of their career.

We had a chance to bring a known great QB from our OWN division, and we made a move on him. We gave up some picks because what else did we have to offer that the eagles wanted? We have little talent on both sides of the ball, and are ina big rebuilding stage.

Shanny is looking for devoted players who are here to help build a TEAM. Not just a bunch of broken down vets. Mcnabb didn't work out, and now we move on.. Shit happens.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Rex does this week. It can't get any worse then what we've already seen? I was watching the breakdown of film on NFL.com and saw how many open WR Mcnabb has been missing all year. He missed a wide open Moss in the endzone last week and foreced a low pass into double coverage instead. He wasn't doing that shit in Philly.. He can't learn the offense, and Rex thinks he can.

Give Rex a shot, and let's see what he can do. We are 5-8... Not 8-5

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Maybe we will see this Rex on Sunday!


[YT][ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_B_yKbNSX0]YouTube - My Rex Grossman Tribute/Highlight Video[/ame][/YT]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;770106]Btw where has Aceinthehouse been?? He hasn't said much as of late[/quote]

I heard when the Skins started losing big in the second half of the season it made him take a step back and reevaluate his 14-2 prediction, and that once he did he realized his only course of action was to become a Buddhist Monk and join a monestary. He changed his name to mona-muananunana and devoted his life to Buddha.

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[quote=Bucket;770124]Many of the top coaches run their teams like Shanny is now. He is looking for the most prefessional and devotred players to play for his team.

Patriots
Steelers
Colts

[/quote]

Patriots I can kind of see the parallels. The Steelers to. However I have no idea how you came up with the Colts who up until recently have been run by mild mannered Tony Dungy and since then has been replaced by soft spoken Jim Caldwell.