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MTK 12-31-2012 03:52 PM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/47660/jim-haslett-as-redskins-mad-scientist]Jim Haslett as Redskins' 'mad scientist' - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

NC_Skins 12-31-2012 04:12 PM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
I'll eat some crow because I didn't think this guy was going to fix the issues with the defense. Granted, I didn't blame it all on him, but his scheme was lacking and he failed at in game adjustments. It seems to me that he stopped using that crappy zone defense and went more of a man to man. Last night's game plan was immaculate. I think the defense has (at times) outplayed the offense these past 7 games. There was only one play call (defensively) that pissed me off. That was the goal line defense where he decided to rush only 3 and drop the rest in coverage. Thereby giving Romo 8+ seconds to find a open Witten.


That said, I'm still not sold on Haslett, and feel that we can find a better 3-4 DC out there. I will say Jim has done a great job these past few weeks, and think that this defense could be better with upgrades in the secondary. I won't be mad if he's dismissed, nor will I be if he's brought back on.

SFREDSKIN 12-31-2012 04:17 PM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[quote=NC_Skins;982504]I'll eat some crow because I didn't think this guy was going to fix the issues with the defense. Granted, I didn't blame it all on him, but his scheme was lacking and he failed at in game adjustments. It seems to me that he stopped using that crappy zone defense and went more of a man to man. Last night's game plan was immaculate. I think the defense has (at times) outplayed the offense these past 7 games. There was only one play call (defensively) that pissed me off. That was the goal line defense where he decided to rush only 3 and drop the rest in coverage. Thereby giving Romo 8+ seconds to find a open Witten.


That said, I'm still not sold on Haslett, and feel that we can find a better 3-4 DC out there. I will say Jim has done a great job these past few weeks, and think that this defense could be better with upgrades in the secondary. I won't be mad if he's dismissed, nor will I be if he's brought back on.[/quote]

This pretty much sums up the way I feel. At one time I really liked Haslett as a player, coordinator and coach, after many failures due to the same reason I disliked him. I hope he's able to sustain what he's doing and not deviate from the plan like in the past.

HailGreen28 12-31-2012 04:18 PM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
Didn't think Haslett could pull this off. He's earned his job back if this good play by the D continues.

The Goat 01-01-2013 03:12 AM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[quote=irish;982298][B]The thing with defense is that in today's NFL you dont need a great D to win, you need a decent D combined with a good offense.[/B] The biggest difference with the Skins this year is that they can score points. The NFL is an offense first league and now the Skins have an offense that can put up points combined with a D that can get the job done. The Skins will be a dangerous team in the playoffs.[/quote]

Does reflect reality. The Giants and Steelers had elite defenses with above average offense, and beat teams with elite offense and lesser defenses. You could try to make your argument with the Packers, but that defense was playing elite for the SB run.

skinsfan69 01-01-2013 09:54 AM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[quote=NC_Skins;982504]I'll eat some crow because I didn't think this guy was going to fix the issues with the defense. Granted, I didn't blame it all on him, but his scheme was lacking and he failed at in game adjustments. It seems to me that he stopped using that crappy zone defense and went more of a man to man. Last night's game plan was immaculate. I think the defense has (at times) outplayed the offense these past 7 games. There was only one play call (defensively) that pissed me off. [B]That was the goal line defense where he decided to rush only 3 and drop the rest in coverage. Thereby giving Romo 8+ seconds to find a open Witten. [/B]


That said, I'm still not sold on Haslett, and feel that we can find a better 3-4 DC out there. I will say Jim has done a great job these past few weeks, and think that this defense could be better with upgrades in the secondary. I won't be mad if he's dismissed, nor will I be if he's brought back on.[/quote]

Yeah that call pissed me off too. You just can't give any QB that long to find an open guy and it's unfair to ask your guys to cover for that long. I didn't even blame Riley on the TD, that's on the coaches. But Haslett has earned the right to come back. Let's remember he's doing this without his best pash rusher and some serious question marks in the secondary.

GoSkins! 01-01-2013 12:47 PM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[quote=skinsfan69;982574]Yeah that call pissed me off too. You just can't give any QB that long to find an open guy and it's unfair to ask your guys to cover for that long. I didn't even blame Riley on the TD, that's on the coaches. But Haslett has earned the right to come back. Let's remember he's doing this without his best pash rusher and some serious question marks in the secondary.[/quote]

He learned from that call though. Don't think I saw another rush with less them 4 men for the rest of the game.

SBXVII 01-01-2013 01:47 PM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
We gotta finish the season, but the big question is are their any better coaches out their right now defense wise. Out of all the coaches fired/available? If that answer is no then we stick with Haslett. If there is I'd hope Haslett gets looked at for a HCing job or simply cut/fire him. However... MS is a loyal HC. Denver fired him cause he refused to fire his DC back then and replace him.

So unless Haslett gets offered a job as HC somewhere I don't see him going anywhere. Unfortunately.

SBXVII 01-01-2013 01:53 PM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[quote=skinsfan69;982574]Yeah that call pissed me off too. You just can't give any QB that long to find an open guy and it's unfair to ask your guys to cover for that long. I didn't even blame Riley on the TD, that's on the coaches. But Haslett has earned the right to come back. Let's [B]remember he's doing this without his best pash rusher[/B] and some serious question marks in the secondary.[/quote]

I'll give you the secondary issues. Best pass rusher must go to Kerrigan. I love Orakpo like every other fanatic fan but Kerrigan has played better and gotten more sacks. But if both were playing together this defense would be 100 X better.

MTK 01-01-2013 02:28 PM

re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[quote=SBXVII;982641]I'll give you the secondary issues. Best pass rusher must go to Kerrigan. I love Orakpo like every other fanatic fan [B]but Kerrigan has played better and gotten more sacks[/B]. But if both were playing together this defense would be 100 X better.[/quote]

Kerrigan has 16 sacks in his first two seasons, Orakpo had 19.5 in his first two.

Agreed our pass rush would be much better with them both in there.

Chief X_Phackter 01-01-2013 02:46 PM

Re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
I have the opinion that they should definitely bring him back. I think he has earned it. After a couple of years implementing the system, acquiring players through FA/draft, I am anxious to see how this defense grows and performs next year providing they stay relatively healthy.

I am expecting a deep run this year...I believe the Skins can match up against every team that made the playoffs. The only game that I think they would struggle in is GB in GB for the NFC Championship.

BUT next year could be even more special. Keep it all together...

SFREDSKIN 01-01-2013 03:01 PM

Re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
Jarvis Jenkins is starting to play better and I think it's helping Haslett.

Chief X_Phackter 01-01-2013 03:10 PM

Re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;982658]Jarvis Jenkins is starting to play better and I think it's helping Haslett.[/quote]

He is playing better, and that is nice...but that is just what he was expected to do - play at a high level and make an impact on the D-line.

I just think that after losing [I]arguably[/I] the best or most impactful player on all three levels of the defense to injury (Carriker, Orakpo, Merriweather), not to mention the absence of TJ and CG, Haslett has put together some nice games and deserves the credit.

REDSKINS4ever 01-01-2013 03:17 PM

Re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[quote=Mattyk;982497][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/47660/jim-haslett-as-redskins-mad-scientist]Jim Haslett as Redskins' 'mad scientist' - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

This is why people need to be careful before they criticize Coach Haz. He is one of the reasons why we made it to the post season. Regardless of where the Redskins ranked on defense this past season, I'm really glad that Bruce Allen extended Haslett before the season started.

44ever 01-01-2013 03:23 PM

Re: Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;982658]Jarvis Jenkins is starting to play better and I think it's helping Haslett.[/quote]

Having Coach Fletcher on the field doesn't hurt either...


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