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[quote=NC_Skins;994719]Does he mean like in the Seattle game? Ok...[/quote]

Have to learn your limitations somehow. Give the guy a break. This was his first season in the NFL. I believe he now understands what he can and can not do with regards to sacrificing his body. His knee is a result of what he can learn from. I think he will be much smarter with a season under his belt this year.

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[quote=Mattyk;994703]So why do you keep watching?

Those former players that are laughing at the rules as you say are also the ones trying to sue the league now because they didn't protect them enough.[/quote]

Guys I've heard critique the new rules....Deion Sanders, Warren Sapp, Rod Woodson, Tom Jackson, Lavar Arrington, Brian Mitchell, Darren Sharper and a wr from GB James Jones...to name a few. I could go on and on. None have lawsuits against the NFL.

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RG3 will be fine. I just sucks that this entire off season will be devoted to rehab. I wonder if he will get any reps in pre season.

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[quote=skinsfan69;994752]No one wants to see a 6-3 game. That's not what I'm saying. I just don't like that the rules weigh so heavily towards one side of the ball.[/quote]

I wasnt trying to disagree with you. I think what the majority of fans want ends up winning out. And as of now, that is shootouts. So protecting the QB and making it a pass happy QB/offense driven league wins out and thats the direction that the NFL is taking.

I wasnt meaning to say you wanted a 6-3 game with what I was talking about in that post. I was meaning it as if thats what the majority of fans wanted, the NFL would move that direction as best they could among the lawsuits and talk of player safety. If bringing back defense to make it fair for both sides of the ball actually brought in more money. The NFL would move that direction imo.

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[quote=skinsfan69;994766]RG3 will be fine. I just sucks that this entire off season will be devoted to rehab. I wonder if he will get any reps in pre season.[/quote]

Honestly, I hope not.

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[quote=Mattyk;994755]Recovering from a 2nd knee reconstruction with an entire season in front of him is a different story, I think he's going to approach it a bit more wisely.[/quote]


I hope for our sakes you are right. I personally don't trust the kid when it comes to his own health. I think he still feels he has to prove how "tough" he is, and that he'll readily rush out before being truly ready. You can't trust him, not after that fiasco. I have a feeling Shanny doesn't trust him either concerning his own health.

[quote=SkinzWin;994761]Have to learn your limitations somehow. Give the guy a break. This was his first season in the NFL. I believe he now understands what he can and can not do with regards to sacrificing his body. His knee is a result of what he can learn from. I think he will be much smarter with a season under his belt this year.[/quote]

I'll give the guy a break when he proves it, until then I'm going on by his actions so far. We can hope he's smarter than what he showed last year, but the proof is in the pudding. I'll remain skeptical until I see otherwise.

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[quote=NC_Skins;994779]I hope for our sakes you are right. I personally don't trust the kid when it comes to his own health. I think he still feels he has to prove how "tough" he is, and that he'll readily rush out before being truly ready. You can't trust him, not after that fiasco. I have a feeling Shanny doesn't trust him either concerning his own health.

I'll give the guy a break when he proves it, until then I'm going on by his actions so far. We can hope he's smarter than what he showed last year, but the proof is in the pudding. I'll remain skeptical until I see otherwise.[/quote]

Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? [URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/02/photos-how-brett-favres-ankle-and-hamstring-turned-purple-after-vikings-loss-to-saints/1#.USQp8KV4U5Q"]The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck[/URL]. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.

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Good point Matty.

It all falls back to the mentality of football and of the football player. The coach is responsible for removing player x, but at what point? Hindsight is 20/20. If he miraculously led us back in that game at the end and afterwards we were told he won the game with torn knee ligaments he would be even more of an icon. QBs have done it before.

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[quote=Mattyk;994780]Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? [URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/02/photos-how-brett-favres-ankle-and-hamstring-turned-purple-after-vikings-loss-to-saints/1#.USQp8KV4U5Q"]The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck[/URL]. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.[/quote]


He's not any different, and I never said I blame him. He's doing exactly what I would have done. I said I don't trust him concerning health issues.

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Keep in mind people that RG did this recent commercial for money, not to prove a point. Derrick Rose did the same thing, he was trying to sell stuff for Adidas. Samething for RG3 I know his ego and image is big, but he's a smart kid who knows that his 10+ year career of making money will end before year 5 if he rushes his major surgery and gets hurt again. I agree to an extent with NC Skins about RG trying to prove his toughness, but I also think his dad, his coach, his owner, his teammates, agent, girlfriend, Adidas, Gatorade, and so on are saying dont rush it.

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Chicks with kicks.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/32991/Female-kicker-will-compete-at-regional-combine-for-first-time/Default.aspx]Female kicker will compete at regional combine for first time[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;994780]Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? [URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/02/photos-how-brett-favres-ankle-and-hamstring-turned-purple-after-vikings-loss-to-saints/1#.USQp8KV4U5Q"]The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck[/URL]. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.[/quote]

I think the big difference between older, HOF quarterbacks and Griffin is mobility. Favre was not a huge run threat like Griffin was. If he got hit and bruised it was in the pocket. With Griffin on the run it lends him to put himself in more vulnerable positions to get himself injured. Favre can flop in the pocket and get hit easier than Griffin can on the run in a full sprint.

The issue here is Griffin running and going for that little bit extra instead of sliding and being protected from hits because of rules against hitting sliding quarterbacks. If Griffin would have slid instead of getting lit up by Haloti Ngata, his knee may never have been an issue. He just has to make better decisions finishing runs. If his tweet about not jeopardizing his career is serious, he needs to start with finishing runs smarter.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;994822]Chicks with kicks.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/32991/Female-kicker-will-compete-at-regional-combine-for-first-time/Default.aspx]Female kicker will compete at regional combine for first time[/url][/quote]

I hope it's not just to say, "I did it". Do it because you want to play and you're good at it.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/report-fred-davis-ahead-of-schedule-in-achilles-rehab/]Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;994853][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/report-fred-davis-ahead-of-schedule-in-achilles-rehab/"]Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

When does anyone say the player is behind schdeule? lol. Hope we get a long term deal done w/ Davis. I'd like to see this offense with everyone healthy and ready to go come Sept. I'd also like to see Robinson become a consistent complete wr. He's got the tools and he's got the speed. Hopefully he can take his game up a notch.