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KI Skins Fan 07-29-2016 08:03 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1145114]Can't find the link right now but I was listening to Redskins on the radio, and I BELIEVE that it was Cooley who said he thinks there is a less than 1% chance Cousins gets re-signed based on what he has seen and heard around Redskins park. I always felt like Cooley was a pretty sensible guy, ie - not saying crazy stuff generally..[/quote]

Relax, man. Everything is fine. Cousins isn't going anywhere. SM is in control and he is the real deal as GM. Cooley is so full of shit his eyes are brown.

MTK 07-29-2016 08:27 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
lol the Skins would have to be retarded to keep a guy for $20M if they had no interest in him as the long term answer. They could have went with McCoy and signed a couple more free agents with that money.

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-30-2016 08:39 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1145114]Can't find the link right now but I was listening to Redskins on the radio, and I BELIEVE that it was Cooley who said he thinks there is a less than 1% chance Cousins gets re-signed based on what he has seen and heard around Redskins park. I always felt like Cooley was a pretty sensible guy, ie - not saying crazy stuff generally..[/quote]

Was that to a long term deal this year or at the end of the year?

MTK 07-30-2016 10:54 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
If Cooley said anything like that, hard to believe someone like Florio wouldn't be all over it.

Evilgrin 07-30-2016 10:57 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Cooley also said Freeney was coming in this week.

mooby 07-31-2016 04:10 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1144754]Potentially they could load up on skill position players and feel comfortable enough with a trent dilfer type / game manager....[/quote]

That's right you heard it hear first. Dilfer is coming out of retirement so he can be the weak link on a championship Redskins squad, all because Dan Snyder feels like being cheap towards Kirk Cousins.

mooby 07-31-2016 04:19 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=MTK;1145085]Sudfeld is a project, hard to imagine him developing too quickly, if he does at all.[/quote]

Sudfeld is a beat up, rusted old classic car right now. He's a project car. They're going to keep him in the garage for 1-3 years, invest very little in him and then make a decision, which will be:

A. QB is a hole (sorry Kirk), they've seen enough out of Sudfeld to make him a starter and give him the beaucoup bucks.

B. Hopefully raised his trade value enough that we flip him for a solid pick.

C. Cut him loose because he's a still a rusted old piece of shit not worth investing in anymore.

skinsfaninok 07-31-2016 05:57 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Kirk will get a long deal, CC just wants to be relevant again.

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-31-2016 10:00 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Sudfield will be gone in a couple of years. He won't be worth much.

punch it in 08-01-2016 12:06 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1145114]Can't find the link right now but I was listening to Redskins on the radio, and I BELIEVE that it was Cooley who said he thinks there is a less than 1% chance Cousins gets re-signed based on what he has seen and heard around Redskins park. I always felt like Cooley was a pretty sensible guy, ie - not saying crazy stuff generally..[/QUOTE]



So someone of importance thinks that if Cousins goes out this year and is a top ten QB, and leads us to infinity and beyond that the Redskins do not care because they are already sure he is not coming back????
Wow.
I hope that said person is let go before Cousins. Its hard to even have this conversation because we have been in QB hell for two decades. Now we have what appears to be a potential star in the making - very early on in his career- and brass is letting Cooley know that there is almost no chance he comes back? All this before he even plays a pre season game in his first true year going into the season as the starter?

SolidSnake84 08-01-2016 07:16 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1145155]So someone of importance thinks that if Cousins goes out this year and is a top ten QB, and leads us to infinity and beyond that the Redskins do not care because they are already sure he is not coming back????
Wow.
I hope that said person is let go before Cousins. Its hard to even have this conversation because we have been in QB hell for two decades. Now we have what appears to be a potential star in the making - very early on in his career- and brass is letting Cooley know that there is almost no chance he comes back? All this before he even plays a pre season game in his first true year going into the season as the starter?[/quote]

I'm not 100% sure that it was Cooley, but it was a semi-relevant Redskin. I'm trying to go back and find the link so i can post it for you guys to give your thoughts on the piece. Numerous articles on Scott M - defending his thinking, and believing that they can find a "budget" QB that will be able to be "Just as good" as Cousins, while costing far less. Moneyball at the QB position, if you will.

IMO, Cousins' best chance for a big payday is that he plays well enough this year that someone wants to give him the long term deal with the security that he has been after. If he plays lights out and the skins go deep in the playoffs, that is really the worst case for the skins because he at that point would be in the neighborhood range of 22 - 24 million, which the Skins flat out won't pay. But somebody will. Ever since this whole story has been going on, here are the teams that I think have the best chance to get Cousins in 2017, and make sense.

Miami
Denver
San Francisco
New York Jets

CRedskinsRule 08-01-2016 07:33 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1145171]I'm not 100% sure that it was Cooley, but it was a semi-relevant Redskin. I'm trying to go back and find the link so i can post it for you guys to give your thoughts on the piece. Numerous articles on Scott M - defending his thinking, and believing that they can find a "budget" QB that will be able to be "Just as good" as Cousins, while costing far less. Moneyball at the QB position, if you will.

IMO, Cousins' best chance for a big payday is that he plays well enough this year that someone wants to give him the long term deal with the security that he has been after. If he plays lights out and the skins go deep in the playoffs, that is really the worst case for the skins because he at that point would be in the neighborhood range of 22 - 24 million, which the Skins flat out won't pay. But somebody will. Ever since this whole story has been going on, here are the teams that I think have the best chance to get Cousins in 2017, and make sense.

Miami
Denver
San Francisco
New York Jets[/quote]

If the Skins get deep in the playoffs, and KC is at all part of the solution, he will sign a contract here for at least 6 year, 150 million, 70 million guaranteed. Feel free to bookmark this if you need to.

MTK 08-01-2016 08:26 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Once again, why bother giving KC $20m this year if there's little chance of him being here long term? If SM wanted to play money ball, $20m could have shored up a few other positions. And if you're ok win paying him $20m this year, why wouldn't you be ok with paying him $24m next year as long as he earns it?

KI Skins Fan 08-02-2016 08:48 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1145171]I'm not 100% sure that it was Cooley, but it was a semi-relevant Redskin. I'm trying to go back and find the link so i can post it for you guys to give your thoughts on the piece. Numerous articles on Scott M - defending his thinking, and believing that they can find a "budget" QB that will be able to be "Just as good" as Cousins, while costing far less. Moneyball at the QB position, if you will.

IMO, Cousins' best chance for a big payday is that he plays well enough this year that someone wants to give him the long term deal with the security that he has been after. [B]If he plays lights out and the skins go deep in the playoffs, that is really the worst case for the skins because he at that point would be in the neighborhood range of 22 - 24 million, which the Skins flat out won't pay.[/B] But somebody will. Ever since this whole story has been going on, here are the teams that I think have the best chance to get Cousins in 2017, and make sense.

Miami
Denver
San Francisco
New York Jets[/quote]

The highlighted quote is truly the most ridiculous thing I can remember reading on this site.

MTK 08-02-2016 10:29 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
There isn't a coach or GM in the league that would prefer a game manager over a stud QB.


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