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[quote=mredskins;1349654]There is always a group of diehard current QB1 fans on here that can never just expect we have not found the next great thing at QB1

Same group rode Tyler H jock the whole time he was here

I swear if Elmo was under center they still worship him

“ but but he is so cute out and the fuzzy coat no else in the nfl has that “

This entire team needs to be flushed and restarted[/quote]


I'm on the side of Howell is not it right now, anyone that says otherwise is just hoping against hope and delusional

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1349666]This team is unprepared, undisciplined and lacks creativity. It's on the coaches. When you are getting beat left and right by the opposing DL, make some changes to the OL. Bench Wylie, replace him with Lucas, bench gates replace him with Larsen or Stromberg, even replace Charles with someone else.[/quote]

With all that being said, Sam played a bad game. It's ok to say it.

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[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1349660]Some of y'all are irrational if you believe most or the entire team will be or needs to be flushed. It can't nor won't happen. I'll continue to say part of it is personnel but a lot of it is coaching.

This is a bottom 5 coaching staff. The head coach, defensive coordinator, and offensive coordinator are garbage.[/QUOTE]


It is both personnel and coaching. There are maybe five guys on each side of the ball that are keepers. That isn’t good enough even if we had a better staff. Ron has failed at being a gm and a HC.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1349669]I'm on the side of Howell is not it right now, anyone that says otherwise is just hoping against hope and delusional[/quote]

I still feel like he is the guy for the rest of the year. w/ that being said I would have benched him and went w/ Jacoby 2nd half.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1349648]Of course, we're not a good team, but it is more due to coaching than overall personnel. The Giants did the same thing defensively the entire game and Bieneimy didn't much adjust.

Giving up only 14 points should be a win, but Bieneimy shitted the bed.[/quote]

Yeah should but we must remember the Giants missed a FG. We had one blocked (should have gone for it) gave up 242 yards in the first half to a backup QB, constant 3rd down defensive penalties.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1349669]I'm on the side of Howell is not it right now, anyone that says otherwise is just hoping against hope and delusional[/quote]

I guess that's me. Let's make some changes to the OL before put it all on Howell and EB start running the fucking ball.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1349673]I still feel like he is the guy for the rest of the year. w/ that being said I would have benched him and went w/ Jacoby 2nd half.[/quote]

He would have been worse with no time to do shit.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1349670]With all that being said, Sam played a bad game. It's ok to say it.[/quote]

He did, I said it earlier.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1349673]I still feel like he is the guy for the rest of the year. w/ that being said I would have benched him and went w/ Jacoby 2nd half.[/quote]

I'm fine with him playing the rest of the year, we aren't going anywhere anyway. I'm not fine with chicken shit Ron Rivera being the coach. The fact that the team was better with Jay Gruden and Mike Shanahan says something

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1349669]I'm on the side of Howell is not it right now, anyone that says otherwise is just hoping against hope and delusional[/quote]

I think he has the potential but he still needs to make the next step with progression/ timing

Still not there , may not got there

I will say give him the whole year , it’s a throw away year , we need to know is SH the guy or not

Next year Harris is really going sink his teeth in

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1349669]I'm on the side of Howell is not it right now, anyone that says otherwise is just hoping against hope and delusional[/quote]

His pocket presence or lack are or can be drive killers. That is holding him back.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1349683]His pocket presence or lack are or can be drive killers. That is holding him back.[/quote]

And it started on the first drive of the game, that 3rd down crossing pattern was there and he just held it like a buffoon

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[quote=mredskins;1349682]I think he has the potential but he still needs to make the next step with progression/ timing

Still not there , may not got there

I will say give him the whole year , it’s a throw away year , we need to know is SH the guy or not

Next year Harris is really going sink his teeth in[/quote]

I give him the year and yeah he has potential, but like Brian Billick said, potential will get you fired.

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Also remember some of SH success early may have been him being new, now Defenses have film on him and they are really dialing up on his weaknesses at this point

This game film isn’t going help him at all

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[quote=mredskins;1349686]Also remember some of SH success early may have been him being new, now Defenses have film on him and they are really dialing up on his weaknesses at this point

This game film isn’t going help him at all[/quote]

That is all standard for rookie QB's in the NFL. Here's a question for you: Do we have the coaching needed for Sam to get better?