[QUOTE=mredskins;1009772]There are some legit gripes to be had.[/QUOTE]

First world problems I guess.

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[quote=Mattyk;1009776]First world problems I guess.[/quote]

Obviously any of this is.

It just seems that this Xbox is moving away from it's core audience; actually gamers and trying to branch out into too many outlets. Which probably equates to more money but leaves the hard core gamer with a bad taste in his/her mouth.

They keep harping on the voice activation you can do that now with Kinect and you sound like a retard yelling at your TV telling it to do something.

[QUOTE=mredskins;1009778]Obviously any of this is.

It just seems that this Xbox is moving away from it's core audience; actually gamers and trying to branch out into too many outlets. Which probably equates to more money but leaves the hard core gamer with a bad taste in his/her mouth.

They keep harping on the voice activation you can do that now with Kinect and you sound like a retard yelling at your TV telling it to do something.[/QUOTE]

It's obvious with the way the 360 was heading that they were going to focus this next system on being an all in one entertainment box. Hardware wise it sounds powerful enough to appeal just fine to gamers too. I just think its silly to be complaining about things we haven't even gotten our hands on yet.

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[quote=Mattyk;1009781]It's obvious with the way the 360 was heading that they were going to focus this next system on being an all in one entertainment box. Hardware wise it sounds powerful enough to appeal just fine to gamers too. I just think its silly to be complaining about things we haven't even gotten our hands on yet.[/quote]

Fair enough.

to be honest I am kind of out of the video game world but like to keep tabs. I just simple don't have the time to dive into games anymore.

It will be a long time coming if ever I see a Xbox 1 or a PS4.

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[quote=Mattyk;1009781] I just think its silly to be complaining about things we haven't even gotten our hands on yet.[/quote]


That's how things are fixed prior to a products release. It's better the base complain now, and they adjust, than to put out the hardware without a way to change it and lose sales/reputation.

EA was told by many many groups and customers not to do a DRM online with Sim City 5. They didn't listen, the customer base responded by voting them the worst corporation in America for two years in a row. Needless to say, that CEO didn't last long after that.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1009774]This was awesome.

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Lol, WiiU. I guess he was right though about having a choice. Microsoft would be smart to kill off speculation ASAP of the 24 hour check in and the used game activation fee. Especially after the Windows 8 debacle. They've garnered a certain reputation of being the company that doesn't listen or rather the one that has to be dragged kicking and screaming before giving into what customers want.

Also LMAO at EA Sports. They virtually used a slightly upgraded version of the Madden 06 trailer to showcase their next gen lineup.
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Meh. The only thing that got me excited from that trailer is the UFC game. NBA Live has always been second fiddle to 2K's NBA game, and I doubt that's going to change. Also taking into account its been YEARS since EA has put out an NBA game simply because they never could get their ish together.

And we all know about Madden.

FIFA has always been a strong franchise, that should be interesting if you're into soccer.

Overall though, meh.

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It takes several years before developers are able to make great games for new systems. Plus they meaning the developers have to appeal to the masses and for the most part the masses have Xbox 360 and PS3. It is even more so true this go around because Ps3 and 360 have had the longest life spans of any console.

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what is the reasoning for needing a deadline to login? just curious

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Probably going to happen

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The interactive fantasy football aspects seem pretty legit.

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[quote=Mattyk;1009857]Probably going to happen[/quote]


I agree that it'll most likely happen. Most consumers don't keep up with their product until it comes available. Even Sim City 5 had very good sales, but the backlash after those sales are what got that CEO fired, and a reason Amazon stopped selling it at the time. If they would keep up with it, you'd have MS singing a different tune about Xbox One.

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I'll wait and see how the games look. I'm not a fanboy of either system. I was perfectly happy with my PS2 just like I am now with my 360. I'm also thinking a lot of these new features people are dismissing now could end up being pretty cool once you see them in action.

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lol that gif amuses me and horrifies me at the same time.

I think the always online thing for Xbox One is BS. I didn't have wifi for the longest time, simply because I didn't really need it. (Granted, my whole home life changed once I got it) So now, Microsoft is basically forcing people to buy a wireless router.

Not to mention, some of your computers are more than likely more (or comparably as) powerful than the Xbox's specs.

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Finally got my hands on Bioshock Infinite, just to state the obvious it's a brilliant game.

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[url=http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-21539_7-57588359-10391702/why-xbox-ones-used-games-policy-doesnt-need-to-be-the-end-of-gaming-as-we-know-it/]Why Xbox One's used games policy doesn't need to be the end of gaming as we know it | E3 - CNET Reviews[/url]

nice to read a rational view on this subject for a change

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[quote=NC_Skins;1011443][YT]Cmo-YYoHnGs[/YT][/quote]

Best news of the day by far.

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Last of Us comes out this Friday. While main stream reviewers get it wrong on occasion it's still ridiculously hard to post a 96 out of 100 (67 reviews) on [URL="http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us"]Metacritic[/URL].

This is a game I've been looking forward to for a while so it'll be interesting to see if it can live up to the hype.
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[quote=Mattyk;1011375][url=http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-21539_7-57588359-10391702/why-xbox-ones-used-games-policy-doesnt-need-to-be-the-end-of-gaming-as-we-know-it/]Why Xbox One's used games policy doesn't need to be the end of gaming as we know it | E3 - CNET Reviews[/url]

nice to read a rational view on this subject for a change[/quote]

This is the biggest wait and see for me.
[quote]Flexible pricing is what has made Steam a PC gaming haven. I recently bought every single Grand Theft Auto game ever made on Steam for under $15 -- total. That's spectacular. Sales and deals can revive catalog titles, and make them attractive to a new group of consumers. And publishers can get revenue they'd otherwise miss out on: 100,000 consumers paying $10 for an older game beats out 10,000 paying $60.
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I think I've said it before that I love getting games digitally. For example recently with the Last of Us I canceled my preorder on Amazon when I found out I could download it from the PSN Store on launch day. I also said that I would have gladly payed $60 for a digital copy of Halo 4 instead of the $40 I got it at in disc form.

With PC the adaption to digital gaming has been made easy with larger hard drives and cheap prices on Steam and Amazon. With the Xbox store and the PS Store the price up to this point rarely seems to go below the standard $60 price point. Plus most people aren't willing to upgrade their hard drives even though affordable and easy options exist for both consoles.

I think games have been heading towards digital copies anyway. The thing that companies need to do is be more flexible with their pricing. Having games like Madden sell for $60 digitally a month before the next one comes out is obviously not going to fly. Even now while typing this Madden 13 is selling for $40 retail and $60 digitally. Stubborn gamers like me might drop the extra $20 on games they really like but for the majority of gamers as well as people like me who are on the fence about any particular title it's probably not going to work.

Regardless if Microsoft and Sony remain committed to addressing the concerns gamers have over pricing and ease of access the transition will go seamlessly and everyone will win, except for maybe Gamestop. However if they put up road blocks and make games harder to play as well as more expensive then things will get ugly in a hurry.

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Xbox One is up for pre-order on Amazon. Anyone taking the day one plunge?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1011454]Last of Us comes out this Friday. While main stream reviewers get it wrong on occasion it's still ridiculously hard to post a 96 out of 100 (67 reviews) on [URL="http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us"]Metacritic[/URL].

This is a game I've been looking forward to for a while so it'll be interesting to see if it can live up to the hype.
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This is the biggest wait and see for me.


I think I've said it before that I love getting games digitally. For example recently with the Last of Us I canceled my preorder on Amazon when I found out I could download it from the PSN Store on launch day. I also said that I would have gladly payed $60 for a digital copy of Halo 4 instead of the $40 I got it at in disc form.

With PC the adaption to digital gaming has been made easy with larger hard drives and cheap prices on Steam and Amazon. With the Xbox store and the PS Store the price up to this point rarely seems to go below the standard $60 price point. Plus most people aren't willing to upgrade their hard drives even though affordable and easy options exist for both consoles.

I think games have been heading towards digital copies anyway. The thing that companies need to do is be more flexible with their pricing. Having games like Madden sell for $60 digitally a month before the next one comes out is obviously not going to fly. Even now while typing this Madden 13 is selling for $40 retail and $60 digitally. Stubborn gamers like me might drop the extra $20 on games they really like but for the majority of gamers as well as people like me who are on the fence about any particular title it's probably not going to work.

Regardless if Microsoft and Sony remain committed to addressing the concerns gamers have over pricing and ease of access the transition will go seamlessly and everyone will win, except for maybe Gamestop. However if they put up road blocks and make games harder to play as well as more expensive then things will get ugly in a hurry.[/quote]

It's certainly worth taking a wait and see approach. The consoles could either knock it out of the park if they follow in Steam's footsteps or they could really hurt themselves if they are greedy and stubborn in the transition to digital delivery. I think they'll end up somewhere in the middle.

In the end I don't think anyone can blame them for making this move. All media has been moving this way for years.

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E3 was today.

Seems like most people were still meh about the Xbox One. Sony is currently on stage right now.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1011475]Xbox One is up for pre-order on Amazon. Anyone taking the day one plunge?[/QUOTE]

What is the price points on these new consoles?

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[quote=mredskins;1011494]What is the price points on these new consoles?[/quote]

$499 for the Xbox

There was a rumor that PS4 could start at $399 (I'm assuming different memory levels) but that hasn't been confirmed yet.

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I'd guess if the PS4 is cheaper, it won't be by $100, more like $50

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No pre-owned game restrictions or always online needed for PS4.

Kingdom Hearts 3.

Shots fired.

Sony wins. Flawless victory.

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So u now need PS+ for multi-player? Did they just sneak that in there?

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I was wrong, PS4 will be $399 after all

Pretty aggressive move

I think I'm going to pre-order them both and make a final choice as November gets closer

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Unless Microsoft pulls an ace out of their sleeve further down the road, I think Sony may end up beating Microsoft in sales.

Now I just gotta figure out how to cough up $400 by the end of the year. Hm.

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[quote=Mattyk;1011499]So u now need PS+ for multi-player? Did they just sneak that in there?[/quote]

For online play. But on top of that you also get access to numerous free retail and indie games a month, betas and demos.

Suppose it's a fair trade.

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steam and gog are great for PC games. I think i have 60-something steam games and paid an average of $1 each for them. a lot were humble bundles, and most i've never or will never play for more than an hour, but it's cheap enough that it doesn't matter. every unreal game for $10? every GTA game for $15? all the spore stuff for $15?

can't be mad at that.

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The type of publicity that Xbox is receiving now is brutal. I'm still amazed how many of these "higher ups" even get to the position they are without understanding the concept of test markets or even listening to your customer base. The last MS guy making fun of the nerds got canned, and he was behind the crap that is currently in the Xbox one. Do they not understand this is NOT what the customer wants? /mind boggled



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[quote=Mattyk;1011501]I was wrong, PS4 will be $399 after all

Pretty aggressive move

I think I'm going to pre-order them both and make a final choice as November gets closer[/quote]


Some mad nerds....lol

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500 bucks get out of town!

I learned a hard lesson awhile ago always best to be a wave or two behind technology. If you buy the $500 first gen Xbox One you will be buying it's worst gen of that box for the most money. Same for PS4.

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[quote=mredskins;1011537]500 bucks get out of town!

I learned a hard lesson awhile ago always best to be a wave or two behind technology. If you buy the $500 first gen Xbox One you will be buying it's worst gen of that box for the most money. Same for PS4.[/quote]

It's not a bad way to go. My friend does the same thing. I'll most likely not be buying a new system this year.



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[quote=NC_Skins;1011540]It's not a bad way to go. My friend does the same thing. I'll most likely not be buying a new system this year.



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Think about the 360. I believe $400 when it first came out tons of issues the biggest one the ring of death. Now you can get the best built 360 with either kinect or more storage for under 300 bucks and a huge library games to choose from.

Xbox One will come out with a handful of exclusive games and I am sure plenty of bugs. Unless you have cash to burn I don't know why anyone would drop 500 bucks on that system. Wait a year or two when they finally bury the 360 get the bugs out of the One and it has a larger library. Not to mention developers need some time with a system before they start perfecting games for them.

The saddest part about the new consoles for hard core gamers especially the X1 is that now gaming is just part of what they do not solely what they do. Shot lose all the other stuff sell it for $200 bucks and just focus on gaming; I pay $80 for an awesome game vs. $500 for the box and $60 for a ok game.

The worst thing that happen to console gaming as far as the hardcore fans go was the Wii. IT showed developers that if they developed gimmicky games for a larger audience there was more money to be made in that market. How many great video game developer minds were pulled off awesome game designs to work on things like Wii Tennis, Kinect, Wii bowling, PS Eye, etc....just plain sad.

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Also to add:

Microsoft who gives a fawk that my gaming console can change my TV station. that is why I have a fawking cable box; dipshits! Plus no cable company is going to eliminate their box because that is revenue for them; DUH!

Also all the things the say the One can do with your TV; guess what? I can already do it with my 360/Kinect and it sucks! If you have FiOS it will link up with your 360 and you can watch live TV and tell it by voice to change the channel. Big freaking deal.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1011535]The type of publicity that Xbox is receiving now is brutal. I'm still amazed how many of these "higher ups" even get to the position they are without understanding the concept of test markets or even listening to your customer base. The last MS guy making fun of the nerds got canned, and he was behind the crap that is currently in the Xbox one. Do they not understand this is NOT what the customer wants? /mind boggled



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MS is taking a beating and rightfully so.

If they have some sort of trump card up their sleeve they better play it soon.

I think it's way to soon to declare a "winner" but Sony has definitely landed the first punch square to the jaw.

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/11/tech/gaming-gadgets/e3-sony-microsoft/index.html?hpt=hp_t3]Sony hammers Xbox over price, used games - CNN.com[/url]