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What a start to Free Agency 2010:

-Not surprised at all Peppers isn't here. Like I said all along, it was never serious

-Surprised we didn't at least get a visit from Dansby. Thought Dansby would make a few trips and we'd be one of them. But I'm glad Allen didn't bite on that deal. I like Dansby, but not sure I want him at that price

-Dunta Robinson was always a long shot so that doesn't surprise me that he's not here. But again, glad we didn't spend that kind of money on him. He's not worth that much

-I had never taken earlier Larry Foote rumors seriously, but they do make sense

-Glad we didn't sign Chad Clifton. I don't see him as much better than Levi Jones

-Haven't heard about Ben Hamilton lately, other than I think he was going to Seattle for a visit. I think he'll pay a visit here. But I could be wrong

-Campbell to the Browns rumors are dead at the moment (don't know about other Campbell rumors)

-We have mild, very mild, interest in Thomas Jones

-I'm hoping we sign Rex Grossman so I can change my username to SexyRexy

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[quote=SmootSmack;670451]What a start to Free Agency 2010:

-Not surprised at all Peppers isn't here. Like I said all along, it was never serious

-Surprised we didn't at least get a visit from Dansby. Thought Dansby would make a few trips and we'd be one of them. But I'm glad Allen didn't bite on that deal. I like Dansby, but not sure I want him at that price

-Dunta Robinson was always a long shot so that doesn't surprise me that he's not here. But again, glad we didn't spend that kind of money on him. He's not worth that much

-I had never taken earlier Larry Foote rumors seriously, but they do make sense

-Glad we didn't sign Chad Clifton. I don't see him as much better than Levi Jones

-Haven't heard about Ben Hamilton lately, other than I think he was going to Seattle for a visit. I think he'll pay a visit here. But I could be wrong

-Campbell to the Browns rumors are dead at the moment (don't know about other Campbell rumors)

-We have mild, very mild, interest in Thomas Jones

[B]-I'm hoping we sign Rex Grossman so I can change my username to SexyRexy[/B][/quote]

:laughing2

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Thanks for the update SS...Im very glad to hear interest, even if it is mild, in T. Jones...the ease Portis felt 2 days ago hearing Betts and Rock were cut would likely be much heighten if we did sign an over-achiever such as T. Jones. T. Jones is just a hard worker, keeps himself in shape, and plays hard....the reaction Portis would have would be extremely interesting...would we see the jackass Portis run his mouth again or would it light a fire? Arguement could be made either way it would help the team.

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[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2957]Willie Parker[/url]

Willeh Parker to visit Monday.

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Boy FA use to be alot more fun. LOL

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hopefully now the regular season is more fun!

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;670419]I am not nervous at all. We as fans are so used to having big names come in by the moment free agancy starts and then thinking all of our problems are solved.

There are still what about 170 days or so till training camp starts. We have still have trades to make, the draft, thier are players who will be let go here and there as well. There are plenty of ways to fill out the roster with quality NFL football players. I would not be surprised if we make a trade or 2 especially if we trade away a couple of our guys.[/quote]

Yeah this isn't going to be the end of cuts by any means. Rosters will have to be trimmed, draft picks will replace some vets or fringe roster young guys, etc.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;670456][url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2957]Willie Parker[/url]

Willeh Parker to visit Monday.[/quote]

ahh, Betts' replacement if we sign him

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It doesn't really mean much, but we did interview at least 8 running backs that I know of at the combine (though off-hand I can only name Matthews, Blount, Hardesty, Gerhart, and Spiller) so I would imagine a RB in the draft is on our radar.

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[quote=SmootSmack;670470]It doesn't really mean much, but we did interview at least 8 running backs that I know of at the combine (though off-hand I can only name Matthews, Blount, Hardesty, Gerhart, and Spiller) so I would imagine a RB in the draft is on our radar.[/quote]

I'd have to imagine so, especially with the roster blow up, can't see us replacing 2 spots in FA and going in with just Portis. I'm wondering who we're looking at in FA aside from the Sproles rumors.

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I don't know if anybody remembers how badly I wanted Ma'ake Kemoeatu back in 2006, but he's probably an even better scheme fit today.

Not as dominant of a player, but more capable of filling the "hole" we have up front. Quoted becuase a team with Haynesworth really doesn't have a hole up front.

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[quote=tryfuhl;670473]I'd have to imagine so, especially with the roster blow up, can't see us replacing 2 spots in FA and going in with just Portis. I'm wondering who we're looking at in FA aside from the Sproles rumors.[/quote]

Well seems like rumors have floated about Brian Westbrook, Willie Parker, LaDanian Tomlinson, and Thomas Jones. My understanding is that none of them are serious though. I mean I think what some of these guys are going for and what we're offering are pretty far apart. So something would have to give.

I have heard there's a running back who will probably be cut soon that we could be interested in. I'm still trying to figure out who that is.

Have heard Ryan Torain also

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[quote=SmootSmack;670477]Well seems like rumors have floated about Brian Westbrook, Willie Parker, LaDanian Tomlinson, and Thomas Jones. My understanding is that none of them are serious though. I mean I think what some of these guys are going for and what we're offering are pretty far apart. So something would have to give.

I have heard there's a running back who will probably be cut soon that we could be interested in. I'm still trying to figure out who that is.

Have heard Ryan Torain also[/quote]

Yeah those seem to be the popular throw around names, well other than Torain, seem mostly unsubstantiated, for the time at least though, other than the visit we have coming from Parker.

Interested in hearing who the soon cut RB is once you find out.

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Any reports that the Titans might be shopping Lendale after his play me or get rid of me comments?

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Torain was a big fantasy football sleeper Shanny's last year in Denver. The talk that whole off season was how much he loved him.

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I think it's funny how all this is transpiring. Normally the Skins are first to make noise and it's been that way for years now. Yes it's nice to see and hear that they have picked up a new toy to play with and have dreams of grandure but it has amounted to nill all those years. Meanwhile we watched teams like the Patriots be frugal with there spending and win championships.

When Cerrato was let go and Allen named a number of people were excited, including myself. Part of our problems had been solved. Then Shanahan was named and we knew the team would be in good hands. Simply put whether we spent money and brought in players like before or not didn't matter, we finally had something different then the status quo from the GM down. However there were a few of the fans who were still not on board. Refused to believe a new dawn had begun. Didn't want to throw faith in the wind for fear it would get blown away like before. It was even mentioned that depending on how the team handled the situation after FA started would depend if they were on board the bandwagon again or not. Basically you folks didn't want the same status quo when the bell sounded.

The FA bell came and went and they are not throwing money around as in the past. They have not signed the big named FA's in hopes they solve the problem. For once there is silence. It's nice not to be the team over spending and getting ridiculed about it. The big question is why would anyone need anymore proof that things have changed and this is a new beginning? Perhaps our thought process's were in full reverse with the mind set that by picking up the new shinny toy and putting it on the field was a "PLAN" when in reality it was not, it was chaos. The mere fact that they have not done those things that were status quo tells me they have a plan and executing it as expected.

Let the silence be defining with a smile on our faces. :)

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Here's a list on dcprosportsreport.com as to players supposedly visitin.

[url=http://www.dcprosportsreport.com/articles/washington-redskins/]Skins l DC Pro Sports Report[/url]

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Let's hope that Grossman rumor stays a rumor. He had his shot. Instead, he gave Mr. overhyped-and-terrible-in-the-playoffs Peyton Manning a ring and an inflated reputation.

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Hatin on Peyton out of nowhere

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[quote=tryfuhl;670496]Hatin on Peyton out of nowhere[/quote]

Yes, he's overhyped :doh:

Anyway, back to reality. I'd be fine with Grossman as a back up. Although if JC is not moved, and Grossman comes in as a backup, and with Shanny most likely drafting a QB somewhere in this draft, I can see you know who as the odd man out.

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[quote=tryfuhl;670496]Hatin on Peyton out of nowhere[/quote]

Nope, just the facts. He's a monster in regular season and average or worse in the postseason. Colts' O averages an abysmal amount of points in the postseason, and back then he had Marvin Harrison and stuff to throw to.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;670500]Nope, just the facts. He's a monster in regular season and average or worse in the postseason. Colts' O averages an abysmal amount of points in the postseason, and back then he had Marvin Harrison and stuff to throw to.[/quote]

He's .500 in the playoffs, for the earlier part of this record he had to go up against the likes of New England and very talented AFC playoff teams (i.e. Pittsburgh and San Diego). While he had top notch receivers, he always had a weak running and no defense. [B][SIZE="2"]But anyway, back to the subject of the thread.[/SIZE][/B]

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More news on Twitter.....

[url=http://twitter.com/john_keim]John Keim (john_keim) on Twitter[/url]

Allen has had a prelim talk with Barry Sims OT/OG

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Saw this on another site.... No link though.

[QUOTE]RT @Russellmania09: One last #Redskins #NFL Free Agency note for now, Casey Wiegmann & #Redskins have officially moved on.
[/QUOTE]

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From what I've read so far it seems like most of you are in denial about how "this new approach" to the offseason is going.

Let's do a quick recap on our team right now:

-We have a quarterback who everyone loves in the offseason untill about week 3 where we realize wow.. this kid just cannot make a proper decision.

-Then we have arguably the worst oline in the league and really with the retirement of Samuels and the decline of Thomas not one true olinemen that could spend atleast 3 years in our franchise at a high level.

-Oh and let's not forget our receivers who looked so promising in college that lack development to the next level.

-Let's not get into our current runningback situation since we only have one beat up "once good" rb on our roster at the moment.

-Then we have our "Hard-hitting, skilled" FS Laron Landry, who lost us a game against the Superbowl champs? I don't care what anyone says, if we'd have won that game we would have had a smile on our face all offseason. The need here is to get another FS, get Laron on SS and let him try to cause fumbles (very unlikely).

-Now for some reason we feel like we should try a 3-4 defence. Sure I like the idea, but it's too bad that would require atleast 2 skilled linebackers added on top of our current group. (Orakpo, Fletcher, Rocky, ?, ?) Let's not kid ourselves with this whole DE moving to OLB thing (Alexander), it just won't work.

-Basically our strong points are, the dline,corners and linebackers in a 4-3, but not 3-4.

So now let's think of how we could improve, well getting a guy like Karlos Dansby would have been a good idea, but that's gone. The addition of Larry Foote would be good, so let's hope this happens. A guy like Chad Clifton regardless of his age would have been good but that didn't work out, a guy like Ryan Clark would be a good addition, but we've made no move so far.
So that leaves us with this "deep" draft class and only 5 picks.
#1, Qb or LT
#2, RB
#4, OL **Likely wouldn't start
#5, LB **Likely wouldn't start
#7, Who really cares because they certainly won't start.

As you guys can see even with the draft all said and done that leaves us with 3 or 4 huge holes in our roster. Now I'm not really trying to go off on a rant which I'm sure I did but, the point is we need to sign free agents and we need to trade, the draft just won't cut it and it confuses me how some of you dont' understand that. Anyways go Redskins and let's hope that these two ex- superbowl winners (MS and BA) get their phones going much faster!

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[quote=Ruhskins;670504]He's .500 in the playoffs, for the earlier part of this record he had to go up against the likes of New England and very talented AFC playoff teams (i.e. Pittsburgh and San Diego). While he had top notch receivers, he always had a weak running and no defense. [B][SIZE="2"]But anyway, back to the subject of the thread.[/SIZE][/B][/quote]
Doesn't explain why the offense is what tanked when they lost. It's not like a lot of their playoff losses were because the opponents scored 28+ points.
Also, prior to 2008, their running game was adequate or better more often than not, especially when Edge was on a roll.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;670510]Doesn't explain why the offense is what tanked when they lost. It's not like a lot of their playoff losses were because the opponents scored 28+ points.
Also, prior to 2008, their running game was adequate or better more often than not, especially when Edge was on a roll.[/quote]

Like I said, [B][SIZE="3"]back to the subject of the thread[/SIZE][/B].

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Fine with me, but the facts speak for themselves. The GOAT, he is not.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;670510]Doesn't explain why the offense is what tanked when they lost. It's not like a lot of their playoff losses were because the opponents scored 28+ points.
Also, prior to 2008, their running game was adequate or better more often than not, especially when Edge was on a roll.[/quote]

Either way, Peyton is better than any quarterback we have or possibly ever had (in the modern era).

I wish we had a .500 playoff QB on our roster because that would mean we have been to at least 2 playoff games.

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[quote=SmootSmack;670451]What a start to Free Agency 2010:

-Not surprised at all Peppers isn't here. Like I said all along, it was never serious

-Surprised we didn't at least get a visit from Dansby. Thought Dansby would make a few trips and we'd be one of them. But I'm glad Allen didn't bite on that deal. I like Dansby, but not sure I want him at that price

-Dunta Robinson was always a long shot so that doesn't surprise me that he's not here. But again, glad we didn't spend that kind of money on him. He's not worth that much

-I had never taken earlier Larry Foote rumors seriously, but they do make sense

-Glad we didn't sign Chad Clifton. I don't see him as much better than Levi Jones

-Haven't heard about Ben Hamilton lately, other than I think he was going to Seattle for a visit. I think he'll pay a visit here. But I could be wrong

-Campbell to the Browns rumors are dead at the moment (don't know about other Campbell rumors)

-We have mild, very mild, interest in Thomas Jones

-I'm hoping we sign Rex Grossman so I can change my username to SexyRexy[/quote]

I'm gald we're taking a measured look at what's available and not just singning someone just because he's there. The right kind of player seems to be taking priority, Shanahan had pledged to make the players we have better and I look forward to him working with that challenge.

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[quote=IrMitchell;670509]From what I've read so far it seems like most of you are in denial about how "this new approach" to the offseason is going.


As you guys can see even with the draft all said and done that leaves us with 3 or 4 huge holes in our roster. Now I'm not really trying to go off on a rant which I'm sure I did but, the point is we need to sign free agents and we need to trade, the draft just won't cut it and it confuses me how some of you dont' understand that. Anyways go Redskins and let's hope that these two ex- superbowl winners (MS and BA) get their phones going much faster![/quote]


well the "old approach" surely didn't work.
you do realize it's only day 2 of free agency?

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[quote=wolfeskins;670529]well the "old approach" surely didn't work.
you do realize it's only day 2 of free agency?[/quote]

Lol you bet I realize it's only two days of free agency. What do you expect in the next days? You realize that withing 2-3 days from now there will be next to nothing as far as quality players goes. And the old approach didn't work either, but this is a whole different situation with and uncapped year. Previous years we could sign high quality tackles and quarterbacks, not in this case.

I just don't think I'm ready for another 5-11 ish season, We'll see though I don't expect Rocky and Carlos to hang around much longer, we could see two more picks coming our way.

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i trust bruce and shanny. i'm sure they know what they're doing.

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It really simple. Even if the Skins spend big bucks, they're not going to go better than 9-7, so why waste the money? The oppurtunity cost of passing on Peppers or Dansby is not so debilitating to the franchise that the FO has sent the team to the doldrums.

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[quote=IrMitchell;670531]Lol you bet I realize it's only two days of free agency. What do you expect in the next days? You realize that withing 2-3 days from now there will be next to nothing as far as quality players goes. And the old approach didn't work either, but this is a whole different situation with and uncapped year. Previous years we could sign high quality tackles and quarterbacks, not in this case.

I just don't think I'm ready for another 5-11 ish season, We'll see though I don't expect Rocky and Carlos to hang around much longer, we could see two more picks coming our way.[/quote]


Dont be so impatient

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[QUOTE=Pocket$ $traight;670335]I agree. We have plenty of time and every year a big name or two gets let go during the offseason.

Btw...IMO...
- Dansby was overpaid.
- Rolle was paid a lot more than we were willing to spend on a safety
- Peppers was definitely overpaid
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LOL............coming from the team that signed AH,that's pretty funny.

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[quote=IrMitchell;670531]Lol you bet I realize it's only two days of free agency. What do you expect in the next days? You realize that withing 2-3 days from now there will be next to nothing as far as quality players goes. And the old approach didn't work either, but this is a whole different situation with and uncapped year. Previous years we could sign high quality tackles and quarterbacks, not in this case.

I just don't think I'm ready for another 5-11 ish season, We'll see though I don't expect Rocky and Carlos to hang around much longer, we could see two more picks coming our way.[/quote]

I agree with many of your arguments about personnel. Dansby, for instance, would have been a quality addition.

But I would argue that it is more important to establish a team culture where players must earn their keep. The Skins have a reputation for being a Club Med where players can come and pick up large checks for not producing. By changing this team culture, we may positively affect on-field performance even without personnel changes. But this team culture will not change if we keep hiring overpriced folks.

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[quote=SBXVII;670485]I think it's funny how all this is transpiring. Normally the Skins are first to make noise and it's been that way for years now. Yes it's nice to see and hear that they have picked up a new toy to play with and have dreams of grandure but it has amounted to nill all those years. Meanwhile we watched teams like the Patriots be frugal with there spending and win championships.

When Cerrato was let go and Allen named a number of people were excited, including myself. Part of our problems had been solved. Then Shanahan was named and we knew the team would be in good hands. Simply put whether we spent money and brought in players like before or not didn't matter, we finally had something different then the status quo from the GM down. However there were a few of the fans who were still not on board. Refused to believe a new dawn had begun. Didn't want to throw faith in the wind for fear it would get blown away like before. It was even mentioned that depending on how the team handled the situation after FA started would depend if they were on board the bandwagon again or not. Basically you folks didn't want the same status quo when the bell sounded.

The FA bell came and went and they are not throwing money around as in the past. They have not signed the big named FA's in hopes they solve the problem. For once there is silence. It's nice not to be the team over spending and getting ridiculed about it. The big question is why would anyone need anymore proof that things have changed and this is a new beginning? Perhaps our thought process's were in full reverse with the mind set that by picking up the new shinny toy and putting it on the field was a "PLAN" when in reality it was not, it was chaos. The mere fact that they have not done those things that were status quo tells me they have a plan and executing it as expected.

Let the silence be defining with a smile on our faces. :)[/quote]

See what happens when you establish a reputation? When you deviate from the norm everyone is so astounded by what's happening and wondering what's going on. Old habits are hard to break even for those who swore they wanted to see them go away.

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[quote=wolfeskins;670535]i trust bruce and shanny. i'm sure they know what they're doing.[/quote]
What have they done in the last 3 years ?

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[quote=Giantone;670539][QUOTE=Pocket$ $traight;670335]I agree. We have plenty of time and every year a big name or two gets let go during the offseason.

Btw...IMO...
- Dansby was overpaid.
- Rolle was paid a lot more than we were willing to spend on a safety
- Peppers was definitely overpaid
QUOTE]

LOL............coming from the team that signed AH,that's pretty funny.[/quote]
So, is Rolle the second coming of Ronnie Lott, Ed Reed, etc to justify him surpassing our ArchDeluxe's contract?