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Nice, thanks. Yeah, I've been seeing the coaches saying he's a better pass rusher than the tape indicates. I would love to see our Dline jell and become dominant.

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[quote=SmootSmack;824795]I think people had way too high expectations of Nield. 7th round pick and we were talking about him fighting for possibly a starting spot.

That said, I am disappointed in Capers and Cook. Not sure either makes the team. So those are two young OL that potentially flopped for us.[/quote]Though our "line gurus" cut two guys last year who will at least be in the playing time discussion for other teams this year. At least we have our priorities right.

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[quote=12thMan;824835]Nice, thanks. Yeah, I've been seeing [B]the coaches saying he's a better pass rusher than the tape indicates[/B]. I would love to see our Dline jell and become dominant.[/quote]

What I saw in the Pitt game is that he needs to develop more NFL-ready pass rushing moves. And he seemed good but hardly dominant against the run. He's a work in progress with a bright future but not a day 1 starter.

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[quote=SmootSmack;824795]I think people had way too high expectations of Nield. 7th round pick and we were talking about him fighting for possibly a starting spot.

That said, I am disappointed in Capers and Cook. Not sure either makes the team. So those are two young OL that potentially flopped for us.[/quote]

Not sure how reliable or UTD ComcastSports depth chart is, but it has Cook listed #2 behind Will Montgomery at the C position. That could have changed of course.

[url=http://stats.csnwashington.com/fb/teamstats.asp?teamno=28&type=depthcharts]CSN Washington[/url]

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I think Cook is borderline.

I had higher hopes for Capers, but I can't see any way he makes it. Maybe practice squad at best

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its disappointing that our OL is still fairly weak.

D looks good (shaky CBs though), skill positions are depth'd out, QB is average, OL is eh.

next draft/offseason I imagine we'll be looking QB/OL/OL/CB. depth isn't the issue really, we just don't have a true #1 CB imho. OL still could use upgrades to the starters at OG/C/RT. ours are passible, and it's not going to doom the season, but this definitely isn't the hogs.

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[quote=That Guy;825245]its disappointing that our OL is still fairly weak.

D looks good (shaky CBs though), skill positions are depth'd out, QB is average, OL is eh.

next draft/offseason I imagine we'll be looking QB/OL/OL/CB. depth isn't the issue really, we just don't have a true #1 CB imho. OL still could use upgrades to the starters at OG/C/RT. ours are passible, and it's not going to doom the season, but this definitely isn't the hogs.[/quote]

are we talking about the draft already?

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825250]are we talking about the draft already?[/quote]

Why wait? That's what we have to look forward to next year. Besides, the analysts already started talking about next year's draft just as soon as this years' ended.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825250]are we talking about the draft already?[/quote]

well, if we don't find them in the roster cutdowns, that's the next chance to upgrade the roster. and roster cuts aren't going to give us great long term starting options in all likelyhood.

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Landry Hurt again.. Hamstring this time.

How can a guy that stacked, be so fragile? lol... I hope he can get some practices under his belt before the week 1 game

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Where did you get that?

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Yahoo sports , " NY GIANTS USING STRAP ON TECHNOLOGY "....[url=http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=At48qvVlC4CfUe48bOx88fBPfgM6?slug=capress-fbn_giants_camera_technology-7832283]Giants using strap-on camera to help young QB - NFL - Yahoo! Canada Sports[/url] , Nice headline :) I just had to post this .

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[quote=Hog1;825540]Where did you get that?[/quote]

I saw it reported too...either Paulsen or Chris Russell...while the team was playing Indy, I think? Not sure how that happened since he wasn't on the field.

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[quote=mooby;825259]Why wait? That's what we have to look forward to next year. Besides, the analysts already started talking about next year's draft just as soon as this years' ended.[/quote]

I usually like to wait the first half of the first regular season game before I give up on the season

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825549]I usually like to wait the first half of the first regular season game before I give up on the season[/quote]

Pretty strong words to call someone out for "giving up" on the season, especially when that wasn't how that comment wasn't intended at all. Just sayin' it's never to early to start looking at your team in the long term. Besides, if you've seen any of my posts on this board you'd know I'm not one of the doomsayers.

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[quote=12thMan;825548]I saw it reported too...either Paulsen or Chris Russell...while the team was playing Indy, I think? Not sure how that happened since he wasn't on the field.[/quote]

Skins had practice today. LL tweaked his hamstring and so he remains on the PUP list.

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I stand corrected as per MS, LL tweaked hamstring while working out in Indie.

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[quote=mooby;825551]Pretty strong words to call someone out for "giving up" on the season, especially when that wasn't how that comment wasn't intended at all. Just sayin' it's never to early to start looking at your team in the long term. Besides, if you've seen any of my posts on this board you'd know I'm not one of the doomsayers.[/quote]

Dude, this is what you said ad verbatim: "Why wait, that's what he have to look forward to next year" -- which can only suggest that this season is nothing to look forward to, only next year's draft. I'm not calling you out, just saying that is what it sounds like

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825560]Dude, this is what you said ad verbatim: "Why wait, that's what he have to look forward to next year" -- which can only suggest that this season is nothing to look forward to, only next year's draft. I'm not calling you out, just saying that is what it sounds like[/quote]

sounds like someone needs a lesson on inferred vs implied.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825560]Dude, this is what you said ad verbatim: "Why wait, that's what he have to look forward to next year" -- which can only suggest that this season is nothing to look forward to, only next year's draft. I'm not calling you out, just saying that is what it sounds like[/quote]

Bro, if I was going to say the season is hopeless, I'd come out and say the season is hopeless. I'm not one to mince words. You are just taking what I said the wrong way.

Do I think we have a chance to be successful this year? Yeah, I do. Do I think we could be like the Packers of last year, sneak into the playoffs, get into the big dance and pull off an upset over a team like the Steelers/Pats/Colts? No, I don't. But that's a far cry from the Saden's of the internet world, who have already come out and said it's going to be a long season with no hope with Beck at quarterback.

But as far as my original post goes, I'm probably excited about next year's draft as much as I am about this season, mainly because I have wanted the Redskins to build through the draft for years, and this year was an excellent start with what looks to be a strong draft class that we will build upon for years to come. I also think our long term quarterback of the future will be in next year's draft class, even if Beck or Grossman has success this season.

I don't know how old you are, or how long you've been a Redskins fan, but I want long term success more than anything. I've never witnessed the Redskins in a Super Bowl, the Redskins in an NFC Championship Game, hell, I've never even witnessed consecutive winning seasons by the Redskins. If I had to give up a year of success if it meant having 10+ straight years of success, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And that was the underlying theme behind my post above. I'm just as excited about next year's draft as I am about this season because I do believe this team is headed in the right direction for longer term success.

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[quote=mooby;825631]Bro, if I was going to say the season is hopeless, I'd come out and say the season is hopeless. I'm not one to mince words. You are just taking what I said the wrong way.

Do I think we have a chance to be successful this year? Yeah, I do. Do I think we could be like the Packers of last year, sneak into the playoffs, get into the big dance and pull off an upset over a team like the Steelers/Pats/Colts? No, I don't. But that's a far cry from the Saden's of the internet world, who have already come out and said it's going to be a long season with no hope with Beck at quarterback.

But as far as my original post goes, I'm probably excited about next year's draft as much as I am about this season, mainly because I have wanted the Redskins to build through the draft for years, and this year was an excellent start with what looks to be a strong draft class that we will build upon for years to come. I also think our long term quarterback of the future will be in next year's draft class, even if Beck or Grossman has success this season.

I don't know how old you are, or how long you've been a Redskins fan, but I want long term success more than anything. I've never witnessed the Redskins in a Super Bowl, the Redskins in an NFC Championship Game, hell, I've never even witnessed consecutive winning seasons by the Redskins. If I had to give up a year of success if it meant having 10+ straight years of success, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And that was the underlying theme behind my post above. I'm just as excited about next year's draft as I am about this season because I do believe this team is headed in the right direction for longer term success.[/quote]

Okay, enough -- I'm going to reiterate what I said in my post. I'm not calling you out, I just said that's what it sounded like to me. I'm 22 and I've liked the Redskins since I was 10 years old so I have experienced the ups and (mostly) downs. This is a forum for fans, I have absolutely no desire to start a flame war with someone on a message board b/c I personally think that is stupid as hell. Do I want the Skins to build through the draft? hell, yes. Bringing in aging, high priced FAs based on their previous body of work has not translated to success in any case I can think of for the skins. I was just commenting on how your original post sounded like to me so I appreciate the clarification.

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[quote=That Guy;825628]sounds like someone needs a lesson on inferred vs implied.[/quote]

wow, I explicitly said 'that is what it sounds like'. I guess I should have said ' that is what it sounds like [B]to me[/B]' to satisfy the diction police

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825636]wow, I explicitly said 'that is what it sounds like'. I guess I should have said ' that is what it sounds like [B]to me[/B]' to satisfy the diction police[/quote]

and you said that AFTER mooby already clarified himself once. everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but mooby isn't into flogging the team pre-snap, so to speak.

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[quote=That Guy;825694]and you said that AFTER mooby already clarified himself once. everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but mooby isn't into flogging the team pre-snap, so to speak.[/quote]

wtf are you talking about -- I was being sarcastic when I said I wait for the first game to give up. My post was making fun of the notion that you flog the team pre-snap.

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Anyway...

It looks like Torain expects to be in the lineup against Tampa.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Torain-Nearing-Return/d5479135-1a1e-4903-8762-1ed196ab1c06]Torain Nearing Return[/url]

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^ Good news. Although his hands are screwed. :)

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[quote=Lotus;825741]^ Good news. Although his hands are [B]screwed[/B]. :)[/quote]


Very funny.

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Landry tweaked his hammy and won't play Thursday. Damn.

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/08/redskins-notes-arrington-helps-alexander#ixzz1Vl0Y7WsV]Redskins notes: Landry tweaks leg; Arrington helps Alexander | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]

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Landry is turning into Malcolm Kelly.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;825822]Landry is turning into Malcolm Kelly.[/quote]

Don't put that evil on anyone!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP4k1Nm3jbM]Will Ferrell Ricky Bobby Wheelchair Scene - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825703]wtf are you talking about -- I was being sarcastic when I said I wait for the first game to give up. My post was making fun of the notion that you flog the team pre-snap.[/quote]

Man, we're all 'Skins fans here, and my intentions are not to get into a pissing contest on an internet forum about fandom or anything like that. In the end we all root for the same team. HTTR.

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[quote=mooby;825874]Man, we're all 'Skins fans here, and my intentions are not to get into a pissing contest on an internet forum about fandom or anything like that. In the end we all root for the same team. HTTR.[/quote]

Totally, I don't want to talk about this any more. Can we please discuss the fact that Landry can't stay healthy? Oh, and Devin Thomas ran a TD back for the Giants...

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d821a4493/article/titans-browns-have-reasons-for-hope-in-regular-season?module=HP11_content_stream]NFL.com news: Titans, Browns have reasons for hope in regular season[/url]

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What team should you root for (flowchart)

[url]http://www.interpretationbydesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/IBD-football-flowchart.jpg[/url]

Best is the cowboys IMO

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825916]What team should you root for (flowchart)

[url]http://www.interpretationbydesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/IBD-football-flowchart.jpg[/url]

Best is the cowboys IMO[/quote]

Hilarious! I like the Patriots one too "I'd rather be watching baseball"

Though that could apply to the New York teams. LOL.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825916]What team should you root for (flowchart)

[url]http://www.interpretationbydesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/IBD-football-flowchart.jpg[/url]

Best is the cowboys IMO[/quote]


Thats awesome...lol Thanks for sharing.

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Really encouraging stuff about Rak:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/jim-haslett-brian-orakpos-improvement-in-redskins-3-4-like-night-and-day/2011/08/23/gIQAtFP1XJ_blog.html?wprss=football-insider]Jim Haslett: Brian Orakpo’s improvement in Redskins’ 3-4 like ‘night and day’ - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

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Landry in no way shape or form is Bob Sanders as far as injury prone. But Were gonna have to baby him back into the lineup and not rush it.
Think about it... he's been out with the Achilles (a rough injury) and its common to come back when u haven't been using your legs like you normally would to find youself with another "smaller injury".
At this point I want him back to full speed before he even steps on the field because we want him down the stretch. Screw it, have em sit if he needs it and let him finish the season off the IR playing elite ball like he can.

And what's up with Atogwe being nicked up too? I hate our injurys in the secondary right now.
And Josh Wilsons groin pull scares me too.. that's one that heals and gets pulled again over and over which I hope doesn't happen. Other than that were doing fine heading into wk1.

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[quote=Skins4L;826064][B]Landry in no way shape or form is Bob Sanders as far as injury prone[/B]. But Were gonna have to baby him back into the lineup and not rush it.
Think about it... he's been out with the Achilles (a rough injury) and its common to come back when u haven't been using your legs like you normally would to find youself with another "smaller injury".
At this point I want him back to full speed before he even steps on the field because we want him down the stretch. Screw it, have em sit if he needs it and let him finish the season off the IR playing elite ball like he can.

And what's up with Atogwe being nicked up too? I hate our injurys in the secondary right now.
And Josh Wilsons groin pull scares me too.. that's one that heals and gets pulled again over and over which I hope doesn't happen. Other than that were doing fine heading into wk1.[/quote]

I have no idea who would be dumb enough to make that comparison. Bob Sanders has probably never played more than 1 full season in the NFL. Landry has had the Achilles injury and now a hamstring injury, and never had any problems injury wise before those came along. He's just in a rough stretch right now, I don't even think he qualifies to be called injury prone. Malcolm Kelly is injury prone, not LL.

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[quote=Skins4L;826064]Landry in no way shape or form is Bob Sanders as far as injury prone. But Were gonna have to baby him back into the lineup and not rush it.
Think about it... he's been out with the Achilles (a rough injury) and its common to come back when u haven't been using your legs like you normally would to find youself with another "smaller injury".
At this point I want him back to full speed before he even steps on the field because we want him down the stretch. Screw it, have em sit if he needs it and let him finish the season off the IR playing elite ball like he can.

And what's up with Atogwe being nicked up too? I hate our injurys in the secondary right now.
And Josh Wilsons groin pull scares me too.. that's one that heals and gets pulled again over and over which I hope doesn't happen. Other than that were doing fine heading into wk1.[/quote]

I use to freak about injuries all the time but yo urealize that ever team has this kinda of stuff and it is just stuff you have to work through. Look at GB last year, dropping like flies but still won it all.