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[quote=Monkeydad;940311]If President Obama loses the election...some people are making plans already:

[/quote]At least no one needs to worry about these clowns voting....they'll be too busy with the weed.

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what are the obstacles as far as drug testing for welfare recipients?

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[quote=Monkeydad;940311]If President Obama loses the election...some people are making plans already:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/XQV7D.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/icU6p.jpg[/IMG][/quote]



wow, you're not to racist are ya?

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[url=http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/nakedcity/philly-voter-fraud-voter-id.html]GOP trumpets rampant Philly voter fraud in a report that doesn't show it. | Philadelphia City Paper | 07/20/2012[/url]

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[quote=12thMan;940413][URL="http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/nakedcity/philly-voter-fraud-voter-id.html"]GOP trumpets rampant Philly voter fraud in a report that doesn't show it. | Philadelphia City Paper | 07/20/2012[/URL][/quote]Pennsylvania will provide a free ID to anyone who doesn’t already have one. The state even allows voters to cast a provisional ballot if they sign an affirmation that they can’t afford the supporting documentation needed to get an ID. There is simply no way that this law could prevent an eligible voter from casting a ballot

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[quote=Giantone;940396]wow, you're not to racist are ya?[/quote]slapping white people and raping white girls ISN'T racist, but pointing out folks talking about doing those things IS..... :Flush:

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;940433]slapping white people and raping white girls ISN'T racist, but pointing out folks talking about doing those things IS..... :Flush:[/quote]

Yup, when you can go and find just as many tweets from whites saying the same if not worse about Obama and his family, yet you only post the ones against whites, yeah it's racist.:smashfrea

[QUOTE=Giantone;940448]Yup, when you can go and find just as many tweets from whites saying the same if not worse about Obama and his family, yet you only post the ones against whites, yeah it's racist.:smashfrea[/QUOTE]

No its not. It is bringing a group of people's public comments into this dialogue. If you want to counter it by showing similar idiotic statements from the other side of the spectrum that's fine, but lets not shut down every dialogue as racist. If the poster of those tweet images had added some blatant racist remark like "look at what some ... wrote" then fine point that out, but that really wasn't the case.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;940449]No its not. It is bringing a group of people's public comments into this dialogue. If you want to counter it by showing similar idiotic statements from the other side of the spectrum that's fine, but lets not shut down every dialogue as racist. If the poster of those tweet images had added some blatant racist remark like "look at what some ... wrote" then fine point that out, but that really wasn't the case.[/quote]


Yeah it is,what would have been better is if the conversation was about the same action on both sides but since Monkeydad chose to show only one side ...yes it's racist and I would have said the same thing had he only put out tweets from whites about Obama.Look there are nut jobs and wackos on bothsides but this scare tatic BS has got to stop.Or do you really want me to post all of the dumb stuff Rush Limbaugh says?


[url=http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/rushlimbaugh/a/limbaughquotes.htm]Rush Limbaugh Quotes - Stupid Rush Limbaugh Quotes[/url]

[QUOTE=Giantone;940504]Yeah it is,what would have been better is if the conversation was about the same action on both sides but since Monkeydad chose to show only one side ...yes it's racist and I would have said the same thing had he only put out tweets from whites about Obama.Look there are nut jobs and wackos on bothsides but this scare tatic BS has got to stop.Or do you really want me to post all of the dumb stuff Rush Limbaugh says?


[url=http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/rushlimbaugh/a/limbaughquotes.htm]Rush Limbaugh Quotes - Stupid Rush Limbaugh Quotes[/url][/QUOTE]
is it partisan yes
racist no. again its the sad state of US political discourse that any representation made that is not all inclusive is suddenly berated or decried as a racist or sexist or elitist or whateverist, and thus whatever point might be made is lost or belittled.

regardless of other people's statement the tweet images represent what should be unacceptable sentiments of how to handle a political loss.

as for rush limbaughs dumbstuff its fine for you to do it if you feel it adds to your point. I won't decry you as a fat person hater, or weightist. :P

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[quote=firstdown;939242]The poor has no problem with producing an ID to get food stamps and well fair why is it such a problem to vote?[/quote]

It still provides additional hoops and costs that people have to go through in order to vote. It's a bigger burden on a poor person who might not have transportation to go get all these things or the money to spend on the other credentials just to get a "free" ID. That's the thing, it's not really free. It's like me saying, I'm giving a away a free trip, but you'll need to pay this processing fee of $5,000 to receive it.


[quote=Monkeydad;940311]If President Obama loses the election...some people are making plans already:

[url]http://i.imgur.com/XQV7D.jpg[/url]

[url]http://i.imgur.com/icU6p.jpg[/url][/quote]

I think those people are trying to be funny, and not really serious.

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[quote=los panda;940331]what are the obstacles as far as drug testing for welfare recipients?[/quote]

What is this preconceived notion that a good majority of people on welfare are on drugs? Do you understand the lifestyle these people have and exactly how poor they are? Also, it ended up costing the state of Florida MORE money in the long run. Put that in your fiscal pipe and smoke it.

Welfare and food stamps are not our main problem. It accounts for such a small percentage of the budget.


[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html?_r=1&hp[/url]


[quote] Because the Florida law requires that applicants who pass the test be reimbursed for the cost, an average of $30, the cost to the state was $118,140. This is more than would have been paid out in benefits to the people who failed the test, Mr. Newton said.

As a result, the testing cost the government an extra $45,780, he said. [/quote]

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Poor Mitt. Even his own electors would rather resign than vote for him...lol

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/gop-elector-wont-vote-romney-resigns-074113894--election.html]GOP elector won't vote for Romney and resigns - Yahoo! News[/url]

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Romney thinks middle class is $250,000 and below,does this guy ever think before he speaks?


[url=http://news.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/20120914mitt_romney_says_middle-income_250k_and_below/srvc=home&position=recent]Mitt Romney says middle-income’ $250k and below - BostonHerald.com[/url]

BOSTON — [URL="http://news.bostonherald.com/search/?topic=Mitt+Romney"][B][COLOR=#0066cc]Mitt Romney[/COLOR][/B][/URL] is promising to reduce taxes on middle-income Americans.
But how does he define "middle-income"? The Republican presidential nominee defined it as income of $200,000 to $250,000 a year.
Romney commented during an interview broadcast Friday on ABC’s "Good Morning America."

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[quote=NC_Skins;940511][QUOTE=Monkeydad;940311]If President Obama loses the election...some people are making plans already:
(snip images)[/quote]I think those people are trying to be funny, and not really serious.[/QUOTE]So random people get a pass of "trying to be funny", but a "shock" radio personality doesn't?

Of course, what definition of "funny" applies to either is also debatable, but I don't see how one can excuse either and not the other.

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[quote=HailGreen28;940565]So random people get a pass of "trying to be funny", but a "shock" radio personality doesn't?

Of course, what definition of "funny" applies to either is also debatable, but I don't see how one can excuse either and not the other.[/quote]Oh, so you think Rush is just a ..."shock" dj,bet ya he doesn't think so and I know his followers don't.

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[quote=Giantone;940567]Oh, so you think Rush is just a ..."shock" dj,bet ya he doesn't think so and I know his followers don't.[/quote]And the people who made those tweets do?

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The best way to stop voter fraud is to stop the manual process and put voting machines into place. This can be run relatively cheaply and it has far better capacity to ensure no votes have been double cast, etc. Enter SSN. Then have queries to check if deceased, felon, etc etc. I'm sure there's a more effective method out there as far as ensuring positive positives, but off the top of my head it's all I can think.

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[quote=HailGreen28;940569]And the people who made those tweets do?[/quote]


huh,do what?

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[quote=HailGreen28;940565]So random people get a pass of "trying to be funny", but a "shock" radio personality doesn't?

Of course, what definition of "funny" applies to either is also debatable, but I don't see how one can excuse either and not the other.[/quote]


Who says they are getting a pass? They are just as stupid as Limbaugh, but the difference is they are trying to be funny, Limbaugh is not. Limbaugh says things with racial tones and implications because he knows his base thinks those things.

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Unbelievable...talk about ignorant and delusional.

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Romney should just come out and said he thinks black people are poor and want handouts. It's no secret that's who he's talking about in that first video.



It keeps getting better and better for Romney. Elect this asshole and you can guarantee our country is plunged into another war.

[url=http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/romney-secret-video-israeli-palestinian-middle-east-peace]SECRET VIDEO: On Israel, Romney Trashes Two-State Solution | Mother Jones[/url]

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[quote=HailGreen28;936266]Where in that video did Romney say he was going after child labor? He was contrasting life in China with life in the US. How stupid can your spin get here?

Romney said we had it made here, compared to situations like the one he talked about in China. Show where Romney said he approved of it, instead of being surprised by it.

And you didn't even get minor details right. 18 to 23 is child labor?[/quote]


Want to respond to this. You know as well as I do that China has underage kids working in factories. Sure Mitt said the ages of 18-23 in his speech, but did he check all of their ID and documentation? I would bet my life on the fact there are underage workers at that particular factory he was at. Let's talk about the safety factor. Barbed wire fencing? What if the place burnt down? Think Mitt cares? **** no. As long as Mitt's pockets are getting lined, he doesn't care if they hire 13 year old girls and work them until they drop.

The video says more about him providing jobs in China as opposed to the US. Isn't he supposed to be this miracle "job creator" he's trying to boast? Yet, here we see him talking about his factory where his cheap labor force continues to make him bank. Mitt is going to do what's best for him and his cronies. Continue to cut taxes on his wealth class, leave open loop holes, and continue to allow jobs to be shipped overseas. It's what he does, and he's not going to change anytime soon. (if ever)

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CNN has a break down of those 47% he isn't going to worry about.

[IMG]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries/2012/pf/taxes/1203/gallery.election.moneymag/images/chart-how-many-pay-taxes.jpg[/IMG]




I really don't know how this man can be president at this point.

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[quote=NC_Skins;942033]Romney should just come out and said he thinks black people are poor and want handouts. It's no secret that's who he's talking about in that first video.



It keeps getting better and better for Romney. Elect this asshole and you can guarantee our country is plunged into another war.

[url=http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/romney-secret-video-israeli-palestinian-middle-east-peace]SECRET VIDEO: On Israel, Romney Trashes Two-State Solution | Mother Jones[/url]

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The idiot doesn't know the black population represents 13 percent of the total population...and apparently if you support Obama you don't like taking responsibility and are on the gov's tit.

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Huge gaffe by the dems.
:doh: :doh: :doh:

[url=http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/17/fighter-jets-in-democratic-conventions-military-montage-were-turkish-not-american/]Fighter jets shown at DNC were Turkish, not American | The Daily Caller[/url]

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PA Supreme Court ruled against voter ID law returning it to the lower courts for further review. PA supreme court also makes clear that the lower court must suspend the law if voter disenfranchisement will result in the 2012 election.

Basically if the Republican judges don't fix the law, the PA Supreme Court will strike it down before the election.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;942110]Huge gaffe by the dems.
:doh: :doh: :doh:

[url=http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/17/fighter-jets-in-democratic-conventions-military-montage-were-turkish-not-american/]Fighter jets shown at DNC were Turkish, not American | The Daily Caller[/url][/quote]


So is that what the Repubs are going to use going into the debates? A mere fact they use a image of somebody else's planes at a convention? Really? If that's the case, might as well look at the Republican convention and see how many foreign devices that were in place. (most electronics, most cloth made items, and probably most suits)

Talk about grasping at straws.

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Everywhere I look I see a hack, a hack to the left, a hack to the right, a hack on all my TVs....


[url=http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-september-17-2012/actual-democalypse-2012---conservatives-rethink-middle-eastern-democracy]Actual Democalypse 2012 - Conservatives Rethink Middle Eastern Democracy - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 09/17/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;942151]So is that what the Repubs are going to use going into the debates? A mere fact they use a image of somebody else's planes at a convention? Really? If that's the case, might as well look at the Republican convention and see how many foreign devices that were in place. (most electronics, most cloth made items, and probably most suits)

Talk about grasping at straws.[/quote]

I said nothing about debate material. I was pointing out a huge gaffe.
The article does not mention debating material either.

And your argument about buying foriegn made goods is ridiculous and doesnt apply.
The Dems were showing their supposed dedication to the USA military and some idiot puts up a huge picture of Russians ships and Turkish planes instead of American ones. What does blundering a military picture have to do with buying Chinese clothes?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;942168]I said nothing about debate material. I was pointing out a huge gaffe.
The article does not mention debating material either.

And your argument about buying foriegn made goods is ridiculous and doesnt apply.
The Dems were showing their supposed dedication to the USA military and some idiot puts up a huge picture of Russians ships and Turkish planes instead of American ones. What does blundering a military picture have to do with buying Chinese clothes?[/quote]

As compared to the Republicans showing their love for America by putting money in foreign bank accounts, sending jobs overseas for child/dirt cheap labor, for buying foreign products? Nothing says I LOVE MERICA like those things amirite?


Also, I'll see your gaffe and raise you another:


[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/quoted-clint-eastwood-explains-some-more-about-tampa/2012/09/18/b55a7a3c-0145-11e2-b257-e1c2b3548a4a_blog.html]Quoted: Clint Eastwood explains some more about Tampa - The Reliable Source - The Washington Post[/url]


[quote][B][SIZE="3"] “If somebody’s dumb enough to ask me to go to a political convention and say something, they’re gonna have to take what they get.” - Clint Eastwood[/SIZE][/B] [/quote]


:laughing2

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[quote=12thMan;937548]It's voter suppression plain and simple. There's zero evidence of voter fraud. It's a manufactured crisis to justifying Jim Crow tactics.

But..Romney won't carry either Ohio or Pennsylvania.[/quote]
With no method to track fraud or checking ID there would be no way to track fraud. We do know for a fact that millions of dead people are still registered to vote.

If you think about what your saying is that the dems supporters are to dumb and lazy to go get an ID.

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[quote=NC_Skins;942177]As compared to the Republicans showing their love for America by putting money in foreign bank accounts, sending jobs overseas for child/dirt cheap labor, for buying foreign products? Nothing says I LOVE MERICA like those things amirite?


Also, I'll see your gaffe and raise you another:


[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/quoted-clint-eastwood-explains-some-more-about-tampa/2012/09/18/b55a7a3c-0145-11e2-b257-e1c2b3548a4a_blog.html]Quoted: Clint Eastwood explains some more about Tampa - The Reliable Source - The Washington Post[/url]





:laughing2[/quote]

I knew Obama and his admin knew bupkiss about the military when he came into office, but you would think after four years they could recognize a USA warship. Who was the audio/video guy for this gala, Yakov Smirnoff?

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I'd rather judge a candidate on what I know they already do:

[URL="http://www.disinfo.com/2012/09/obama-administration-wins-back-right-to-indefinitely-detain-citizens-under-ndaa/"]The Obama administration has successfully reclaimed the federal government’s right to lock American citizens up and throw away the key under NDAA.
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By what they say? Nah, not so much. The whores will say whatever it takes to get into power.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;942187]I knew Obama and his admin knew bupkiss about the military when he came into office, but you would think after four years they could recognize a USA warship. Who was the audio/video guy for this gala, Yakov Smirnoff?[/quote]


Maybe it's because he's used to seeing pictures of drones.

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[quote=NC_Skins;942177]As compared to the Republicans showing their love for America by putting money in foreign bank accounts, sending jobs overseas for child/dirt cheap labor, for buying foreign products? Nothing says I LOVE MERICA like those things amirite?


Also, I'll see your gaffe and raise you another:


[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/quoted-clint-eastwood-explains-some-more-about-tampa/2012/09/18/b55a7a3c-0145-11e2-b257-e1c2b3548a4a_blog.html"]Quoted: Clint Eastwood explains some more about Tampa - The Reliable Source - The Washington Post[/URL]





:laughing2[/quote]

I'm guessing you typed that on your foreign made computer.

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[quote=RedskinRat;942192]I'd rather judge a candidate on what I know they already do:

[URL="http://www.disinfo.com/2012/09/obama-administration-wins-back-right-to-indefinitely-detain-citizens-under-ndaa/"]The Obama administration has successfully reclaimed the federal government’s right to lock American citizens up and throw away the key under NDAA.
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By what they say? Nah, not so much. The whores will say whatever it takes to get into power.[/quote]


Which is a huge reason why I will not be voting for him come November. I refuse to vote for anybody who is willing to sacrifice the rights of its citizens.

NDAA, Patriot Act, ACTA, SOPA, etc....

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[quote=firstdown;942184]With no method to track fraud or checking ID there would be no way to track fraud. We do know for a fact that millions of dead people are still registered to vote.

If you think about what your saying is that the Dem's supporters are to dumb and lazy to go get an ID.[/quote]
let me ask you a question( or 2) first, do you think the only people that commit voter fraud are Dem's? and secondly, how much actual voter fraud goes on?