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Looks like L. Smith to Tampa .....

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1052768]Caldwell was 2-14 in his only year as head coach without Peyton manning. The giants defense was almost worse than ours this year. Nether is a worthy candidate for a nfl head coaching position. Id question if Fewell is even an upgrade at defensive coordinator over haslett.[/quote]

I think you may be expecting too much from a HC candidate. Not many coaches have perfect credentials before becoming successful as HC. Just for a point of reference:

Bill Bellichick - 36-44 as Cleveland's HC

Tom Coughlin - 60-68 (19-29 in last three years) as JAX HC

Sean Payton - had play calling responsibilities taken away from him by Jim Fassel in 2002 after several poor offensive showings; then he was assistant HC to Parcells in Dallas with a record of (25-23) and Offensive Rank in points of (21, 25, 15)

John Harbaugh - Eagles ST coach for 9 years , then DB coach for 1 . . . That's it?

Mike Tomlin- very successful as DB coach of TB from 2001-2005, then was Vikings DC where his defense ranked 8th overall, 1st against the Run, and last against the Pass,

So, yeah, most of these guys did some awesome stuff that I didn't mention, but the point is, not everyone has stellar credentials and everyone has some blemishes on their record.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1052791]A whole lotta stupid in this thread[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT="Verdana"]I second this. I am amazed at how silly some of the comments have been. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[url=http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24394554/shannon-sharpe-zero-percent-chance-cowher-coaches-redskins]Shannon Sharpe: Zero percent chance Cowher coaches Redskins[/url]

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There is zero chance he ever coaches again.

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I have a feeling we are going to end up with option 4 or 5 after it's all said and done.

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Art Briles.


I am impressed with watching the Eagles offense. Im currently watching the Baylor game and his fuel on the sideline is something we need in Washington

Imagine us spreading the ball out and utilizing Garcon in open space and Morris running the football against 6 man boxes

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[quote=Bucket;1052809]Art Briles.


I am impressed with watching the Eagles offense. Im currently watching the Baylor game and his fuel on the sideline is something we need in Washington

Imagine us spreading the ball out and utilizing Garcon in open space and Morris running the football against 6 man boxes[/quote]

I have no doubt Briles is a better coach than Shanny. Still worry about the defense though. The right guy will make the unit respectable overnight. Otherwise the teams ceiling is probably .500 even if Briles is awesome.

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well, i think the two guys we're talking to show that at least we're looking in the right places (seahawk's OC, carolina's DC). we'll see who else shows up on their list, but that's a good start.

I still think shaw would be best if that were a doable thing.

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I see no problems in being meticulous in our coaching search. I think we have a lot of pieces in place and we need to make sure we have a coach that can take those pieces (as well as the cap resources) and make our team successful.

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[quote=The Goat;1052812]I have no doubt Briles is a better coach than Shanny. Still worry about the defense though. The right guy will make the unit respectable overnight. Otherwise the teams ceiling is probably .500 even if Briles is awesome.[/quote]

What if you bring in Greg Williams and keep Raheem Morris?

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Baylor most penalized team in college. Didn't know that

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[quote=Bucket;1052819]What if you bring in Greg Williams and keep Raheem Morris?[/quote]

Yep. Williams might want his own defensive staff though. Idk how realistic any of that is.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1052800]I have a feeling we are going to end up with option 4 or 5 after it's all said and done.[/quote]

Agreed. The best available coach - by a mile - just got hired in Tampa. Whoever we hire, they'll be a downgrade from shanahan. That much is certain

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1052822]Agreed. The best available coach - by a mile - just got hired in Tampa. Whoever we hire, they'll be a downgrade from shanahan. That much is certain[/quote]

Lol..


Lol...

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[quote=Bucket;1052820]Baylor most penalized team in college. Didn't know that[/quote]

Of course you didn't. Everyone had just blindly jumped on the Briles bandwagon without knowing shit about shit. Everyone is looking at all of these candidates through rose colored glasses. It's amazing how the irrational hatred of shanahan has got everyone looking at mediocre guys as messiahs. All of you, answer me this -

How confident are you that ANY of these guys you've got hard ons for would have done better than shanahan inheriting cerratos roster and having the salary cap penalty?

Keep in mind that almost 50 players on the roster zorns last year were completely out of the league 2 years later. Shanahan inherited a roster that devoid of talent and the cap penalty prevented him from fixing it as quickly as he otherwise could have. I'm not trying to whine about losing shanahan as much as I'm pointing out that you have no rational basis for believing Any of these college coaches or nfl coordinators will improve on the foundation shanahan built vs tearing it apart.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1052824]Of course you didn't. Everyone had just blindly jumped on the Briles bandwagon without knowing shit about shit. Everyone is looking at all of these candidates through rose colored glasses. It's amazing how the irrational hatred of shanahan has got everyone looking at mediocre guys as messiahs. All of you, answer me this -

How confident are you that ANY of these guys you've got hard ons for would have done better than shanahan inheriting cerratos roster and having the salary cap penalty?

Keep in mind that almost 50 players on the roster zorns last year were completely out of the league 2 years later. Shanahan inherited a roster that devoid of talent and the cap penalty prevented him from fixing it as quickly as he otherwise could have. I'm not trying to whine about losing shanahan as much as I'm pointing out that you have no rational basis for believing Any of these college coaches or nfl coordinators will improve on the foundation shanahan built vs tearing it apart.[/quote]

Umm. Doesn't have anything to do with being "blind".

I'm not going to judge a coach or team based off one year of penalties.

22 wins in 4 seasons is pretty mediocre for any head coach. Doesn't get any more mediocre then that.


Its not about the Cerrato team that any coach would be inheriting. It would be about what coach is going to with a ream that Shanahan made. Slow Defense and a small offensive line. Only one playmaker at WR and a RB who we are not sure will be able to play outside a Shanny zone offense.

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Also the penalties make sense because they do run so many more plays then typical teams

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Shanahan was less than mediocre, want proof look at his record post Elway and Washington. Dismall

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It sucks we're already into gamble candidates ie coordinators without HC experience and pretty limited success. I mean at least McDaniels had a ring as DC.

Maybe the bad rap is making a difference in the A list guys minds. Hoping we don't end up with another Zorn type hire, tho still prefer that to a lowlife like Shanahan. With Lovie gone my next guy up is Gregg Williams. Sure bring Briles in to run the offense. Even call him HC if that's what it takes. But at this point we need a leader of men and there's only ? marks on the interview list.

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Y'all realize that the order in which candidates are interviewed has zero to do with the order of interest in them, right?

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I just don't get why everyone thinks we need a HC with HC experience. Most the current NFL coaches that are having success didn't. We have gone through so many retreads, and really never have given an unproven guy much time to develop (Spurrier, Zorn ; pretty sure they wouldnt have, but look at Gibbs slow start). I'm glad there aren't many "experienced" HC out there to confuse this search. I want a young guy that Our young talent can relate to, will listen to, and will play their hearts out for. I want a guy that will get creative and adjust game plans and schemes based on circumstance and available talent. I want someone with those intangible leadership skills, someone with "it". I don't know what "it" is, but I think that is really what matters when choosing a HC when the "experienced" pool is running dry or not what your looking for. I hope Bruce knows what "it" looks like, and that he finds someone who has it.

Anyways, chill out, these are only the first few interviews. I have a feeling I ought to watch the playoffs this year (usually don't care if it isn't Skins), chances are that's where our future coach is.

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[quote=WillH;1052831]I just don't get why everyone thinks we need a HC with HC experience. Most the current NFL coaches that are having success didn't. We have gone through so many retreads, and really never have given an unproven guy much time to develop (Spurrier, Zorn ; pretty sure they wouldnt have, but look at Gibbs slow start). I'm glad there aren't many "experienced" HC out there to confuse this search. I want a young guy that Our young talent can relate to, will listen to, and will play their hearts out for. I want a guy that will get creative and adjust game plans and schemes based on circumstance and available talent. I want someone with those intangible leadership skills, someone with "it". I don't know what "it" is, but I think that is really what matters when choosing a HC when the "experienced" pool is running dry or not what your looking for. I hope Bruce knows what "it" looks like, and that he finds someone who has it.

Anyways, chill out, these are only the first few interviews. I have a feeling I ought to watch the playoffs this year (usually don't care if it isn't Skins), chances are that's where our future coach is.[/quote]

I really like what McDermott's players had to say about him.


[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/3647/mcdermott-interview-wont-be-a-distraction]Sean McDermott interview won't be a distraction - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Bucket;1052825]Umm. Doesn't have anything to do with being "blind".

I'm not going to judge a coach or team based off one year of penalties.

22 wins in 4 seasons is pretty mediocre for any head coach. Doesn't get any more mediocre then that.


Its not about the Cerrato team that any coach would be inheriting. It would be about what coach is going to with a ream that Shanahan made. Slow Defense and a small offensive line. Only one playmaker at WR and a RB who we are not sure will be able to play outside a Shanny zone offense.[/quote]

They'll have every opportunity to quickly improve the roster. The Skins are in a better cap situation that any team in the NFC and all of Shanny's signings over the years have been team friendly. The next coach isn't inheriting a Haynesworth or Portis-like contract. They'll have a full compliment of picks starting in year 2.

And the cupboard is not bare, at least on Offense. They were the #1 rushing unit just last year and top 5 Offensively. It will all come down to the play of RG3. Reed can be a legit #2 and garçon lead the league in receptions and Alfmo put up 1600 yards just a year ago. TW is one of the best left tackles in football.

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Briles shouldn't even be considered. And i dont get what the hype around Bevell is. The Seahawks aren't known for offense and after everything I have read I certainly don't get the interest.

McDermott seems a better choice if it were between the 2

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[quote=SmootSmack;1052830]Y'all realize that the order in which candidates are interviewed has zero to do with the order of interest in them, right?[/quote]

We very likely haven't interviewed the top targets yet.

Everyone needs to chill the heck out.

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Ive watched Baylor several times this year, each time i come away disappointed. Briles doesnt care a damn bit about defense. I dont think he is close to NFL ready head coach.

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[quote=Chico23231;1052848]Ive watched Baylor several times this year, each time i come away disappointed. Briles doesnt care a damn bit about defense. I dont think he is close to NFL ready head coach.[/quote]

I have no idea why his name is even being mentioned. I doubt the Redskins are even interested. Just rumors flying....

Also...funny how when Cousins was asked who he'd like as the next head coach he says.." well that will be up to Mr. Snyder and Robert"....lol.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1052830]Y'all realize that the order in which candidates are interviewed has zero to do with the order of interest in them, right?[/quote]

Some people are too caught up in being opinionated know-nothings than actually using any critical thought or trying to understand.

Perhaps they would be more comfortable if they understood that the timing of the interviews we've had so far has been mostly because of NFL rules about when playoff Coordinators can interview. But that would have taken a moderate amount of effort to know and understand.

Sigh.

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For Pete's sake. People around here are thinking the world is going to end because Smith and O'Brien are off the board. If the Redskins had chosen too fast you'd be complaining that they didn't do a thorough enough job interviewing all the candidates. Now it's "we are going to be stuck with our fourth or fifth choice". Geez Louise people! Get a grip! The spot has only been vacant since Monday. The week isn't over yet.

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[quote=44Deezel;1052844]I really like what McDermott's players had to say about him.


[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/3647/mcdermott-interview-wont-be-a-distraction]Sean McDermott interview won't be a distraction - ESPN[/url][/quote]

See, Yeah, I like that. If nothing else this is why he is deserving of an interview.

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[quote=skinsguy;1052855]For Pete's sake. People around here are thinking the world is going to end because Smith and O'Brien are off the board. If the Redskins had chosen too fast you'd be complaining that they didn't do a thorough enough job interviewing all the candidates. Now it's "we are going to be stuck with our fourth or fifth choice". Geez Louise people! Get a grip! The spot has only been vacant since Monday. The week isn't over yet.[/quote]

Right. I mean we missed out on O'Brien. Sad face...I get it. I liked him too. But there are others available that will be good HCs. As for Tampa. Congrats on your ensuing string of 6 straight 7/8/9 win seasons with a couple first-round playoff losses.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1052822]Agreed. The best available coach - by a mile - just got hired in Tampa. Whoever we hire, they'll be a downgrade from shanahan. That much is certain[/quote]



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There are still a lot of great candidates working in the playoffs. Including Ken Whisenhut and Jay Gruden.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1052865]There are still a lot of great candidates working in the playoffs. Including Ken Whisenhut and Jay Gruden.[/quote]

True, after this weekend at least one of them comes available to interview as will (potentially) Greg Roman and Pete Charmichael (Saints OC). There's really no serious rush to hire a coach today. Most of us are just so ready to shed the past era, we want swift resolution so we can focus on something (and someone) else.

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I (still) don't get the infatuation around these parts with Gregg Williams as some kind of defensive savior. His defenses were inconsistent when he was here. Top 10 one year, lower 20's the next. He obviously didn't impress (some say he moreso offended) the decision makers when he was passed over for the job after Gibbs left. Went to the Saints, built a great defense for one year, average defenses the rest of the time and was let go by Payton. Not to mention the bounty stink he created. Coming out of a drama-fest with Shanahan, I don't want to invite that back into our house.

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Right now, it's between Sean McDermott and Darrell Bevell for me. Bevell would be very good for RGIII, but I really like the thoughts of Sean McDermott. The only concern for me would be who he gets as OC.

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[quote=FRPLG;1052858]Right. I mean we missed out on O'Brien. Sad face...I get it. I liked him too. But there are others available that will be good HCs. [B]As for Tampa. Congrats on your ensuing string of 6 straight 7/8/9 win seasons with a couple first-round playoff losses[/B].[/quote]

Well put. I see no reason to lose sleep over missing out on Lovie.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1052849]I have no idea why his name is even being mentioned. I doubt the Redskins are even interested. Just rumors flying....

Also...funny how when Cousins was asked who he'd like as the next head coach he says.." well that will be up to Mr. Snyder and Robert"....lol.[/QUOTE]


Heard the same thing.. See Mattyk, I didn't make it up!! :-)


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Of course, that's why he was at the Baylor game last night.