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[quote=Chico23231;1062079]Kinda hope we lean Clemons or Jenkins over Mitchell.


What is more likely, tanard Jackson returns to the skins for another shot or Rak is traded?[/quote]

Tanard, easily

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I hope he has his act together, last chance for sure.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1062090][I]The Washington Post confirms the Redskins have "expressed interest" in free agent CB Aqib Talib.

There are many connections for Talib in D.C.; DBs coach Raheem Morris was his head coach in Tampa Bay, and GM Bruce Allen drafted Talib when Allen was the Buccaneers' GM in 2008. Per the Post, Talib is "believed to be seeking a contract that would pay him $9 million to $10 million a season." [B]A league insider told the paper the Redskins want to "make a statement at DB" this offseason.[/B][/I]

I bolded the last sentence. I assume that they want to make a different statement at DB than the one they made last season.

If the Skins sign Talib, I'll be OK with it. Most of us know the arguments against it, but we also know that he is a true #1 corner. He can cover most #1 receivers one-on-one and virtually take them out of the game. If the Skins add Talib and a solid FS who has good range, we should be much improved in the secondary.

Plan B could be to add Talib, move DHall to FS, start Amerson at the other corner, play Crawford in the slot and start Thomas at SS. That might work, too.

I wonder: Is it possible that the Skins are printing cap money in the basement at Redskins Park?[/quote]

the only statement they would be making is they still don't know how to manage their salary cap.

The Redskins already have $11 million in dead cap space now,and they will probably be close to $20 million by the start of the season. Will they ever learn ? It is foolish to sign big long term contracts to older players.

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[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/3/9/5488764/redskins-free-agency-rumors#]Redskins Free Agency Rumors - Hogs Haven[/url]

Here some more brain exploding info

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[quote=SirLK26;1062092]Agreed.

I'd be happy signing Andre Roberts, though, along with resigning Moss for 1 year and drafting a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round. Garcon, Roberts, a healthy Hankerson, an improved Robinson, and either Moss or the rookie in the slot would be a fairly significant upgrade, while leaving money for the defense and O-line. And if we would sign Andrew Quarless to pair with a healthy Reed, that would upgrade the receiving corps, again, without spending big money, and without paying question marks like Hakeem Nicks, Kenny Britt, or Eric Decker.

With Hankerson and Reed being injury question marks, and with having more important needs elsewhere, my philosophy would be to sign solid FA WRs like Roberts. Stay away from big money and uncertainty.[/quote]


I tend to agree with most of your opening paragraph other than bringing back moss, but it wouldn't bother me to much either way. Quarrels and Roberts would be nice additions to the team and provide some nice targets for III.

No to Nicks and other bigger name WRs I have heard thrown around.

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I'd like Talib but not for 10 plus a yr, we have other major needs at WR and OL as well.. Rather just sign pretty good players all around than 1 and a bunch of guys that wont make a difference

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Now Nicks has said that he is open to a 1 year prove it deal, are you all ok with that? Because no doubt Nicks can play.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1062100]Now Nicks has said that he is open to a 1 year prove it deal, are you all ok with that? Because no doubt Nicks can play.[/quote]


best move he could make but he's going to Carolina I just have always thought that

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000332163/article/hakeem-nicks-wants-to-play-with-colts-andrew-luck]Hakeem Nicks wants to play with Colts' Andrew Luck - NFL.com[/url]

[quote]Now Nicks is clarifying that he wants a long-term deal from a team with a established quarterback and a need at wide receiver.
[/quote]

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i'd take nicks on a prove 1-year deal. there's no way i'd throw a full contract at him though unless it was all incentive based (production AND playing time).

i'd rather grab roberts or britt (assuming they're cheap) and call it a day there.

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[quote=SirLK26;1062103][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000332163/article/hakeem-nicks-wants-to-play-with-colts-andrew-luck]Hakeem Nicks wants to play with Colts' Andrew Luck - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

This guy has sucked for the last two seasons and now he's telling the NFL what he wants for Christmas?

If he gets a lucrative, multi-year contract then we'll know that spending on FA's is completely out of hand.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1062107]This guy has sucked for the last two seasons and now he's telling the NFL what he wants for Christmas?

If he gets a lucrative, multi-year contract then we'll know that spending on FA's is completely out of hand.[/quote]

Some GM will give him a big contract using the reasoning that he didnt try due to his contract. Someone will assume that his effort will be there if he is given a big contract. Im hoping we stay away from him. Dont want players that give up when things dont go their way. Its a Vinny move and I am hoping we are past that.

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The more I hear about Mike Mitchell, the more I dont want him. Rather pay the high price of Byrd than overpay for a bust FA.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1062100]Now Nicks has said that he is open to a 1 year prove it deal, are you all ok with that? Because no doubt Nicks can play.[/quote]He's spent two years carefully crafting that doubt.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1062100]Now Nicks has said that he is open to a 1 year prove it deal, are you all ok with that? Because no doubt Nicks can play.[/quote]

Yeah, anything other than a 1 year deal Im not down with. Ive been saying a prove it deal for Nicks this entire offseason, but I do think someone dumb is going with a bigger offer. Indy probably gonna way overpay Eric Decker, so dont think Nicks lands there.

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[quote=SirLK26;1062089]Alterraun Verner is my favorite FA. I'd rather sign him than Byrd or Talib by a long shot.[/quote]

Agreed. Younger, less expensive and potentially better than Talib too, without the issues that Talib might bring.

Talib is asking for too much and we're not completely broken at CB. Safety should be the higher priority.


I'd love to see Verner [U]and[/U] Mike Mitchell over picking one of Byrd or Talib.

O-line too..hit it!

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[quote=Monkeydad;1062120]Agreed. Younger, [B]less expensive [/B]and potentially better than Talib too, without the issues that Talib might bring.

Talib is asking for too much and we're not completely broken at CB. Safety should be the higher priority.


I'd love to see Verner [U]and[/U] Mike Mitchell over picking one of Byrd or Talib.

O-line too..hit it![/quote]

Less expensive? Almost certainly not because there are so many teams that are going after him.

Other than the less expensive part about Verner, I agree with you. That's not a knock on Talib or Byrd - they're both outstanding players. Perhaps signing Mitchell and Munnerlyn wouldn't break the bank.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/10/report-jairus-byrd-looking-for-9-million-per-season/]Report: Jairus Byrd looking for $9 million per season | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1062129]Perhaps signing Mitchell and Munnerlyn wouldn't break the bank.[/quote]

I'd be happy with those two.

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[quote=chewman;1062131][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/10/report-jairus-byrd-looking-for-9-million-per-season/"]Report: Jairus Byrd looking for $9 million per season | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

No way is a safety getting that kind of money. He needs to lower his demands.

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I would rather go DL than CB in F/A . Money would be a big factor in the decision , Im not sure any of the DB's are worth the $ ( maybe if we were 1 player from a championship team ) . [url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/3/9/5486540/washington-redskins-free-agency-gm-defensive-line-edition]Washington Redskins Free Agency GM: Defensive Line Edition - Hogs Haven[/url] . I honestly hope we get some hard nosed team guys first , and take the approach of building the foundation for a decade of winning football !

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as far as i know we're not looking at verner, and he's not going to be any cheaper than talib, so that's not really an option.

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The Redskins have expressed interest in free agent CB Corey Graham.

It doesn't look like the Ravens are going to be able to keep their valuable nickel corner from hitting the market Tuesday. Graham should be an affordable target for a Redskins team that is desperate to upgrade their pass defense by any means necessary. They had the league's No. 20 secondary last season and the No. 30 unit in 2012.

Roto

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[quote=Chico23231;1062139]The Redskins have expressed interest in free agent CB Corey Graham.

It doesn't look like the Ravens are going to be able to keep their valuable nickel corner from hitting the market Tuesday. Graham should be an affordable target for a Redskins team that is desperate to upgrade their pass defense by any means necessary. They had the league's No. 20 secondary last season and the No. 30 unit in 2012.

Roto[/quote]

Graham is good at nickel and on special teams. I'd approve that signing.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1062136]No way is a safety getting that kind of money. He needs to lower his demands.[/quote]

Goldson signed for an average of slightly over 8 mil per year when the cap was 10 mil less. Plus there is Eric Berry, whose contract averages 10 mil per year already. Given the cap rising like it is, 9 mil is not out of the question. Especially since it will continue to go up a good amount in the future.

Most of you are still stuck on the cap being 120 mil or less when talking about salaries. Those days are over. Thats why Shields got almost 10 mil per year from the Packers. No way is he worth that under the previous salary structure of the NFL. He probably is worth it now, and is easily worth it in a couple of years. Salaries of top end players are going to be jumping significantly in the next 5 years.

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[quote=Lotus;1062140]Graham is good at nickel and on special teams. I'd approve that signing.[/quote]

Lets hope he works out better than Wilson

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isnt berry still on his rookie contract before they "slotted" the values?

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$10M a year for Byrd doesn't sound crazy to me at all. He's going to have several teams making a serious push for him so his price is only going to shoot up.

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As long as the skins arent giving him his 10 mill, or Talib whatever he wants.

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The Miami Herald's Adam Beasley is hearing that chatter of free agent FS Jairus Byrd landing with the Dolphins is a "smokescreen."

The smokescreen was apparently leaked by Byrd's reps to the NFL Network, which reported Sunday the Fins were "expressing real interest" in this year's top free agent safety. It may be a sign Byrd's camp isn't satisfied with his contract offers to date, which wouldn't be shocking. Byrd is seeking $9 million per year. [B]That's an awful lot to pay a safety with 4.68 speed going on age 28. [/B]

rotoworld

Lotta smoke being blown, and not just by chico

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[quote=Chico23231;1062156]The Miami Herald's Adam Beasley is hearing that chatter of free agent FS Jairus Byrd landing with the Dolphins is a "smokescreen."

The smokescreen was apparently leaked by Byrd's reps to the NFL Network, which reported Sunday the Fins were "expressing real interest" in this year's top free agent safety. It may be a sign Byrd's camp isn't satisfied with his contract offers to date, which wouldn't be shocking. Byrd is seeking $9 million per year. [B]That's an awful lot to pay a safety with 4.68 speed going on age 28. [/B]

rotoworld

Lotta smoke being blown, and not just by chico[/quote]

Because 40 times matter. Especially with all the 4.2 safties running around in the NFL.

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Chad Rhinehart signs with San Diego.
Take him off your list.

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Rinehart was on my list.

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Relief:

We're NOT interested in bringing in Antonio and his dozen children to our locker room.

[url]https://twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/443047238282264576[/url]

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For the life of me, I have no idea why the FO would pay any one player 9 to 10 million when we need at least 6 to 7 solid new solid starters to be competitive.

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Early indications/reports are that on Tuesday we will be strongly connected to or sign:
Talib & Anthony Collins (per Jeff Darlington, NFL Network)
Mike Mitchell, Kenny Britt, Andrew Hawkins (John Keim)
Darren Sproles (Mike Freeman, Bleacher Report)

I'm good with all of those as they fit needs, but the numbers will tell the story. Other than Talib it doesn't seem like any are big $ guys. The RB market is depressed and Sproles could be a $3m/yr guy and make a nice impact on the offense.

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Darren Sproles?
WTF do we do with him?
Don't we have Helu for that kind of thing?

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Im personally tired of Sproles scoring TDs against everyone and not wearing a Skins uni while participating in that activity. Bruce, its time for Sproles to score TDs for us.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1062173]Darren Sproles?
WTF do we do with him?
Don't we have Helu for that kind of thing?[/quote]

Sproles >>>> Helu

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1062173]Darren Sproles?
WTF do we do with him?
Don't we have Helu for that kind of thing?[/quote]

Helu isn't anywhere near Sproles. He's better suited as a true backup to Morris than a 3rd down back/weapon. Sproles is much better in space, catching the ball and blocking. Sproles replaces what Chris Thompson hoped to be.