Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

I agree - roadblock him all day. Then file tampering charges against the team the signs him.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1188812]But Kirk will be a dick and file a grievance and that wouldn't work so let him walk[/quote]

I liked KC as our QB but now I do not care. Screw him.

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[QUOTE=OmahaRedskins;1188819]I liked KC as our QB but now I do not care. Screw him.[/QUOTE]And screw us by blocking 34M of our cap space through the judiciary battle... mmmh I think I'll pass.

I want to move on. We have our new QB. We freed some cap space. There are others positions on the team. Let's build this roster and go on!

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=OmahaRedskins;1188819]I liked KC as our QB but now I do not care. Screw him.[/quote]

This. Man wanted out. Let him go.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=mooby;1188823]This. Man wanted out. Let him go.[/quote]

When RG3 was here he always said this isn't his team

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=Bigreds77;1188824]When RG3 was here he always said this isn't his team[/QUOTE]RGIII and Cousins are guys I could never cheer for now.

I still root for guys like Lorenzo Alexander to succeed.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1188803][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/19/report-jets-will-pay-whatever-it-takes-to-get-kirk-cousins/]Report: Jets will pay “whatever it takes” to get Kirk Cousins – ProFootballTalk[/url]

Where I think he'll land all along[/QUOTE]
Sounds to me like KCs agent feeding media spin to get his client's value up.

I do believe he ends up with the Jets because of their cap space though.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=Dan73;1188816]Let him file.

Let Cousins become such a headache teams look at kapernic

Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]How does him filing and screwing his position up help the Skins in any way?

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=frenchskin;1188822]and screw us by blocking 34m of our cap space through the judiciary battle... Mmmh i think i'll pass.

I want to move on. We have our new qb. We freed some cap space. There are others positions on the team. Let's build this roster and go on!

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

In less than 30 days we will finally have this ended (MAYBE) lol

I work with a diehard JETS fan and he's drinking the koolaid as well, just like we all did lol.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1188827]How does him filing and screwing his position up help the Skins in any way?[/QUOTE]If they won they get to trade him.

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Bigreds77;1188824]When RG3 was here he always said this isn't his team[/quote]

When Patrick Ramsey was here he also said this isn't his team.

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[quote=Dan73;1188834]If they won they get to trade him.

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but while the grievance is held, the cap hit counts. AND if they lose they lose draft picks/salary cap. That's a lot of risk, especially when you hold the losing hand.

And even if they won, I find it hard to believe any team would trade for him and pay the cap hit, when they get him at no trade cost next year.

The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

Tagging him is such a dumb idea, it’s playing with serious fire. I just don’t see it working out well at all. The game was over once he refused to negotiate last year. And the team moved on by trading for Smith. Time for everyone to move on.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

I bet you they Tag Kirk tomorrow

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

Even if we tag him and we get picks for it, I think this is SERIOUS bad juju.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1188837]but while the grievance is held, the cap hit counts. AND if they lose they lose draft picks/salary cap. That's a lot of risk, especially when you hold the losing hand.

And even if they won, I find it hard to believe any team would trade for him and pay the cap hit, when they get him at no trade cost next year.[/QUOTE]Let it go, it seems some people enjoyed this Kirk drama sooo much they don't want it to end...

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

per Ian Rappeport "The redskins will not tag KC"

SO there is that

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1188841]Let it go, it seems some people enjoyed this Kirk drama sooo much they don't want it to end...

Envoyé de mon SM-J320FN en utilisant Tapatalk[/QUOTE]No one enjoys it.i just want the Skins to get the most they can. Cooley and Polian both believe that the Skins can win.

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Dan73;1188844]No one enjoys it.i just want the Skins to get the most they can. Cooley and Polian both believe that the Skins can win.

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they could win but it's not worth the risk, for many reasons. Plus Rap just reported that there is basically no chance it happens.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

I don't see how this benefits the Skins in any way. Everyone keeps talking about this hypothetical situation with Denver where the skins will get Talib in order to save face. IMO the broncos are going to have to cut players to make room for KC. We can get Talib for less if we wait them out in FA than doing a trade and agreeing to his current cap hit of 12 mil. If he is cut he can be signed for less.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1188843]per Ian Rappeport "The redskins will not tag KC"

SO there is that[/quote]

thank goodness. The saga is coming to a close

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1188843]per Ian Rappeport "The redskins will not tag KC"

SO there is that[/QUOTE]No trade partner

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1188843]per Ian Rappeport "The redskins will not tag KC"

SO there is that[/quote]

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One reason why the #Redskins won't actually franchise tag and trade Kirk Cousins: If he gets tagged/traded, he won't negotiate at all with the new team. He'll play on $34M for one year.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Dan73;1188848]No trade partner

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You mean to say teams don't want to trade resources for a impending free agent who they can get in the open market? Idk man, sounds implausible.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=mooby;1188851]You mean to say teams don't want to trade resources for a impending free agent who they can get in the open market? Idk man, sounds implausible.[/QUOTE]If they want exclusive rights to negotiate or rent for a year they would have.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1188850]Ian Rapoport
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One reason why the #Redskins won't actually franchise tag and trade Kirk Cousins: If he gets tagged/traded, he won't negotiate at all with the new team. He'll play on $34M for one year.[/QUOTE]I figured that is the word his agent put out. I can see the Skins avoiding players rep by these guys for awhile.

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Dan73;1188852]If they want exclusive rights to negotiate or rent for a year they would have.

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Lol negotiating is a 2 way street, why would you trade anything for anyone if you had an idea they had no interest in negotiating with you?

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=mooby;1188855]Lol negotiating is a 2 way street, why would you trade anything for anyone if you had an idea they had no interest in negotiating with you?[/QUOTE]If he won't negotiate don't trade for him.

Good riddance.

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

KC has been consistent for the past 3 years that he wants to hit free agency and see his value. He also has been consistent that if he's tagged he will sign the tag and play under the tag. Nothing in his position has changed over the past 3 years. Thank goodness this will all be done in less than a month.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1188841]Let it go, it seems some people enjoyed this Kirk drama sooo much they don't want it to end...

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I think there’s something to this, for everyone who complains about the drama the team creates those same people thrive on it

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

The Jets are supposedly considering either a fully guaranteed contract or 60 million for this season.

I could see a deal with the Jets for picks this and next depending on if he signs a long term deal.

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Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Dan73;1188862]The Jets are supposedly considering either a fully guaranteed contract or 60 million for this season.

I could see a deal with the Jets for picks this and next depending on if he signs a long term deal.

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Both of those are the worst ideas I've ever heard. They were so bad I almost didn't read the second sentence.

I think your second sentence is just as terrible because the risk in tagging Kirk severely outweighs the reward. We can't risk Kirk fighting the Redskins and screwing up our ability to improve the team over any attempt to get a decent reward for him.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

If Kirk gets a crazy high guarantee that is only good for us, as the comp pick will be as high as possible. If we can get a risk free mid to late 3rd round pick, then why even begin to risk cap and draft penalties to get at best a 2nd. Makes 0 sense.
22 days til FA and this is done.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=mooby;1188855]Lol negotiating is a 2 way street, why would you trade anything for anyone if you had an idea they had no interest in negotiating with you?[/quote]

why would he choose not to negotiate? at least see what you can get from said team? if not, its 110% about money . . . oh wait, we know it is already!

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1188865]If Kirk gets a crazy high guarantee that is only good for us, as the comp pick will be as high as possible. If we can get a risk free mid to late 3rd round pick, then why even begin to risk cap and draft penalties to get at best a 2nd. Makes 0 sense.

22 days til FA and this is done.[/QUOTE]


I agree, it just doesn’t make any sense

But since it’s the Redskins we’re talking about we can’t rule out the possibility of them doing something really stupid

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

I can't wait until March 7th.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1188839]I bet you they Tag Kirk tomorrow[/quote]

There's still 4 hours left in the day, don't give up hope!

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=SkinsGuru;1188867]why would he choose not to negotiate? at least see what you can get from said team? if not, its 110% about money . . . oh wait, we know it is already![/quote]

Because in the open market he can make beau coup bucks and have the freedom to pick what team he wants to join? It's a win-win, really.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=mooby;1188874]Because in the open market he can make beau coup bucks and have the freedom to pick what team he wants to join? It's a win-win, really.[/quote]

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jets-reportedly-want-to-give-kirk-cousins-60m-in-the-first-year-of-his-contract/[/url]