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[quote=The Skinsinator;1286619]Wentz not having surgery now:

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/01/report-carson-wentz-will-rest-will-not-have-immediate-surgery/[/url]

Maybe he plays this season but who knows at this point. Indy also just signed Brett Hundley creating more competition. Think they are going to miss Rivers this year.[/quote]

Sucks Kyle Allen tweaked his injured ankle a few days ago .. he might have been a trade candidate to get our 5th rounder back.

Wentz -- Id guess its the good ole lisfranc injury. If he gets the surgery now, he might be back in 3 months. Real unfortunate career arc for this guy but his story isnt done writing itself yet.

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That was fast. #Colts QB Carson Wentz will have surgery to repair his foot, per coach Frank Reich. He’s out up to 12 weeks, but could be much less. They will remove a bone in his foot.

RAPSHEET

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Legit question…does anyone here really care what Haskins does with the Steelers? I know I don’t.

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1286656]Legit question…does anyone here really care what Haskins does with the Steelers? I know I don’t.[/quote]

If he does anything other than flame out in a year or two I'll be surprised.

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[quote=MTK;1286657]If he does anything other than flame out in a year or two I'll be surprised.[/quote]

My question was gonna be, yeah he threw it over 20 yards downfield, but we’re they within 10 yards of a receiver?

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1286656]Legit question…does anyone here really care what Haskins does with the Steelers? I know I don’t.[/quote]

Absolutely not.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1286653]That was fast. #Colts QB Carson Wentz will have surgery to repair his foot, per coach Frank Reich. He’s out up to 12 weeks, but could be much less. They will remove a bone in his foot.

RAPSHEET[/quote]

This sucks for them and Wentz too. Hard to start your second opportunity in the league with a major injury like this.

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Wonder if Phillip Rivers is interested in one more go at it

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[quote=MTK;1286675]Wonder if Phillip Rivers is interested in one more go at it[/quote]

He might, after spending an entire summer with his 8 kids.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1286653]That was fast. #Colts QB Carson Wentz will have surgery to repair his foot, per coach Frank Reich. He’s out up to 12 weeks, but could be much less. They will remove a bone in his foot.

RAPSHEET[/quote]

Wow

Also could affect the compensation for the Eagles from first round to second round if wentz doesn’t take a certain percentage of snaps. That’s a dub for us too.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1286676]He might, after spending an entire summer with his 8 kids.[/quote]

lol he might play for free

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For the Madden lovers:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJMsfGFo3bA[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;1286687]For the Madden lovers:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJMsfGFo3bA[/url][/quote]

This is hilarious. Someone should have posted a picture of Brandon Scherff's Madden avatar from a year or so ago, when he looked like a demon (his eyes were all black).

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[quote=mredskins;1286687]For the Madden lovers:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJMsfGFo3bA[/url][/quote]

That was cool. Tress got me.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1286676]He might, after spending an entire summer with his 8 kids.[/quote]

He had 9 last I heard lmao.. His wife is either a freak or she only wants some to get prego...

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[IMG]https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_630/MTY4MTg5NDQwNzY5OTI3MDY5/si-cover-denver-broncosjpg.webp[/IMG]

^^ This isnt holding IF the rusher used a swim/rip technique

Penalty: For holding by the offense: Loss of 10 yards.

Blocking Notes:

When a defensive player is held by an offensive player during the following situations, Offensive Holding will not be called:
if the runner is being tackled simultaneously by another defensive player;
if the runner simultaneously goes out of bounds;
if a Fair Catch is made simultaneously;
if the action clearly occurs after a forward pass has been thrown to a receiver beyond the line of scrimmage;
if the action occurs away from the point of attack and not within close line play;
if a free kick results in a touchback;
if a scrimmage kick simultaneously becomes a touchback;
if the action is part of a double-team block, unless the defender splits the double team, gets to the outside of either blocker, or is taken to the ground; or
[B] if, during a defensive charge, a defensive player uses a “rip” technique that puts an offensive player in a position that would normally be holding.[/B]

[url]https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2021-nfl-rulebook/#section-1-blocking,-use-of-hands-and-arms[/url]

I saw it on reddit and didnt know this.

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[quote=SunnySide;1286690]That was cool. Tress got me.

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[IMG]https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/687/512/512687.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

The Red Snapper!

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[quote=Ruhskins;1286699]The Red Snapper![/quote]

There’s our new name and logo!!!!

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[quote=SunnySide;1286697][IMG]https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_630/MTY4MTg5NDQwNzY5OTI3MDY5/si-cover-denver-broncosjpg.webp[/IMG]

^^ This isnt holding IF the rusher used a swim/rip technique

Penalty: For holding by the offense: Loss of 10 yards.

Blocking Notes:

When a defensive player is held by an offensive player during the following situations, Offensive Holding will not be called:
if the runner is being tackled simultaneously by another defensive player;
if the runner simultaneously goes out of bounds;
if a Fair Catch is made simultaneously;
if the action clearly occurs after a forward pass has been thrown to a receiver beyond the line of scrimmage;
if the action occurs away from the point of attack and not within close line play;
if a free kick results in a touchback;
if a scrimmage kick simultaneously becomes a touchback;
if the action is part of a double-team block, unless the defender splits the double team, gets to the outside of either blocker, or is taken to the ground; or
[B] if, during a defensive charge, a defensive player uses a “rip” technique that puts an offensive player in a position that would normally be holding.[/B]

[url]https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2021-nfl-rulebook/#section-1-blocking,-use-of-hands-and-arms[/url]

I saw it on reddit and didnt know this.[/quote]

You forgot:

"if the defensive team is the Washington Football Team."

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[quote=SunnySide;1286697][IMG]https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_630/MTY4MTg5NDQwNzY5OTI3MDY5/si-cover-denver-broncosjpg.webp[/IMG]

^^ This isnt holding IF the rusher used a swim/rip technique

Penalty: For holding by the offense: Loss of 10 yards.

Blocking Notes:

When a defensive player is held by an offensive player during the following situations, Offensive Holding will not be called:
if the runner is being tackled simultaneously by another defensive player;
if the runner simultaneously goes out of bounds;
if a Fair Catch is made simultaneously;
if the action clearly occurs after a forward pass has been thrown to a receiver beyond the line of scrimmage;
if the action occurs away from the point of attack and not within close line play;
if a free kick results in a touchback;
if a scrimmage kick simultaneously becomes a touchback;
if the action is part of a double-team block, unless the defender splits the double team, gets to the outside of either blocker, or is taken to the ground; or
[B] if, during a defensive charge, a defensive player uses a “rip” technique that puts an offensive player in a position that would normally be holding.[/B]

[url]https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2021-nfl-rulebook/#section-1-blocking,-use-of-hands-and-arms[/url]

I saw it on reddit and didnt know this.[/quote]

Yeah that's a basic of refereeing holding. You always have to keep in mind you only flag what has an impact on the play (unless it's unsportsmanlike conduct and/or relative to players safety). So when a defender makes a shitty rip move and '"loses", the fact that he ends up "visually" being held doesn't erase the fact that the OL was making a legal block and the defender put himself in that position. The Olineman isn't supposed to let go just because the DL made a rip move.
Now when it becomes a foul is if the OL drags the defender to the ground and/or keeps holding while the defender is past him.

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That move is called The Kerrigan (the ref not calling it).

That man got cheated so many times.

He would at minimum have 10 more sacks. Or a combination of sacks and holding calls. Probably more like a combo of 20 - 30.

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I like CeeDee Lamb and think he's a damn good player but the hype on him this O/S has been stupid... You would think he is going to have 200 catches this yr

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1286730]I like CeeDee Lamb and think he's a damn good player but the hype on him this O/S has been stupid... You would think he is going to have 200 catches this yr[/quote]

Before we crown him….how’s Dak’s shoulder?

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good Q

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1286734]good Q[/quote]

Yeah I heard he left day 1 and haven’t heard a peep about it since. 🤷*♂️

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1286730]I like CeeDee Lamb and think he's a damn good player but the hype on him this O/S has been stupid... You would think he is going to have 200 catches this yr[/QUOTE]


Comes with the territory. The Cowboys are going to win 15 games and the Superbowl again. How these people get on the hype train year after year when the Cowboys under achieve every year is mind boggling. Dak, Lamb, Zeke all Hall of Famers playing on the best team ever! …… [emoji1750]

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[quote=punch it in;1286765]Comes with the territory. The Cowboys are going to win 15 games and the Superbowl again. How these people get on the hype train year after year when the Cowboys under achieve every year is mind boggling. Dak, Lamb, Zeke all Hall of Famers playing on the best team ever! …… [emoji1750][/quote]

I mean they have won the Super Bowl 27 straight years so it’s really not hype….🤦*♂️

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If anyone cares:

[url]https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2190765/report-rgiii-joining-espn-as-broadcaster[/url]

Now, he can be more public in his venom for WFT and Cousins lol. Guess his plans on playing more are done.

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I love the mess the Iggles are creating for themselves.

They are now linked to a Watson trade, which I'm sure it is going to sour things with Jalen Hurts: [url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/05/deshaun-watson-talks-between-eagles-and-texans-are-not-heating-up/[/url]

So they fire Pederson and get rid of Wentz, all to basically say they don't want Hurts as their QB?

With so many legal troubles behind Watson, I doubt any team is going to pay the Texans' asking price.

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Source: Talks are heating up between #Eagles and #Texans on a Deshaun Watson trade. Still some hurdles to get over. But both sides attempting to come to an agreement.

[url]https://twitter.com/ChrisTrapasso[/url]

If this happens it would SUCK for the NFCE, He's a top 10 QB easily and in his prime

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1286914]Source: [B]Talks are heating up[/B] between #Eagles and #Texans on a Deshaun Watson trade. Still some hurdles to get over. But both sides attempting to come to an agreement.

[url]https://twitter.com/ChrisTrapasso[/url]

If this happens it would SUCK for the NFCE, He's a top 10 QB easily and in his prime[/quote]

No they are not, according to PFT. Texans' price is too high and no team would be stupid to pay it with such a huge legal cloud behind him.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1286914]Source: Talks are heating up between #Eagles and #Texans on a Deshaun Watson trade. Still some hurdles to get over. But both sides attempting to come to an agreement.

[url]https://twitter.com/ChrisTrapasso[/url]

If this happens it would SUCK for the NFCE, He's a top 10 QB easily and in his prime[/quote]

Top 5 I'd say, and he's just getting started.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1286915]No they are not, according to PFT. Texans' price is too high and no team would be stupid to pay it with such a huge legal cloud behind him.[/quote]

Nah, let the Eagles pay that price. Watson would go a long way for them - if he can stay on the field. But I'd bet the price they pay would be too much.

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I'm so glad this mf'er is no longer with our team.

[url]https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/status/1423332820265676805[/url]

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I checked out the Eagles cap situation. They have 16m room right now. Only 3 contracts above 10M, Cox by far the most at 23M cap hit.

but 2022 gets weird for them.

-Slay goes from 6.6M in '21 to 22M in '22
- Hargrave goes from 5.7m in '21 to 17.8M in '22
- Brooks goes from 7 to 19
- L Johnson 11 to 15.7
[url]https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles/[/url]

^^ and these arent deals they can easily get out of, lots of dead/guar money tied to them so they cant just cut them and be free

Ive learned to never think a team will be in future cap hell, especially after watching the Saints make cap this offseason, but it doesnt look good for Eagles in 2022 cap wise.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1286923]I'm so glad this mf'er is no longer with our team.

[url]https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/status/1423332820265676805[/url][/quote]

This dude is a straight ass clown

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theres a game tonight?

whoa

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[quote=Ruhskins;1286923]I'm so glad this mf'er is no longer with our team.

[url]https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/status/1423332820265676805[/url][/quote]

Plays a contact sport but thinks surrounding himself in plexiglass in the QB room is the answer.

FFS

I think Thom Loverro said it best when he tweeted this:

[quote]if a doctor showed up at the park, opened his trunk and told them I’ve got syringes filled with iguana piss that will make you faster and stronger and it’s undetectable, there would be a line through the parking lot[/quote]

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[quote=SunnySide;1286926]theres a game tonight?

whoa[/quote]

Boring take nap

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[quote=SunnySide;1286924]I checked out the Eagles cap situation. They have 16m room right now. Only 3 contracts above 10M, Cox by far the most at 23M cap hit.

but 2022 gets weird for them.

-Slay goes from 6.6M in '21 to 22M in '22
- Hargrave goes from 5.7m in '21 to 17.8M in '22
- Brooks goes from 7 to 19
- L Johnson 11 to 15.7
[url]https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles/[/url]

^^ and these arent deals they can easily get out of, lots of dead/guar money tied to them so they cant just cut them and be free

Ive learned to never think a team will be in future cap hell, especially after watching the Saints make cap this offseason, but it doesnt look good for Eagles in 2022 cap wise.[/quote]

How much dead money do they have?