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[quote=punch it in;1357974]Traded back with ATL here, got an extra pick and their 1st and 2nd next year…..
Took Daniels at 8.

Traded down again later and got another extra pick.


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I did a similar trade, with the Falcons too, I think. Daniels isn't falling to 8.

I'm so fucking pumped how this year unfolded though.

It's not Snyder picking, it's a real owner, and a real GM, we're striking gold at 2 or trading down and striking silver multiple times.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1357977]I did a similar trade, with the Falcons too, I think. Daniels isn't falling to 8.

I'm so fucking pumped how this year unfolded though.

It's not Snyder picking, it's a real owner, and a real GM, we're striking gold at 2 or trading down and striking silver multiple times.[/QUOTE]


I agree. I think the big 3 are coming off the board with the first 3 picks BUT he could fall if the Bears stick with Fields, and Tennessee and Arizona don’t go quarterback? We could conceivably trade back with the Titans at 7 and get Daniels? I can’t wait for this draft with actual adults who know football. Giddy about it actually.

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Had to have a go...

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You can see where my priorities lie.

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Smaller than I was expecting...:embarrass

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[quote=davy;1358000]Smaller than I was expecting...:embarrass[/quote]

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at this point IDC, Get a QB that you can build around and call it a day

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15. Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
36. Kingsley Suamataia OT BYU
40. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson
46. Cooper Beebe OG Kansas State
67. Zach Frazier OC West Virginia
82. Adisa Isaac EDGE Penn State
100. Cade Stover TE Ohio State
102. Delmar Glaze OT Maryland
137. Jacob Cowing WR Arizona
180. Quinton Newsome CB Nebraska
219. Mark Perry S TCU

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Here's what trading back would look like:

1. Chicago - Caleb Williams
2. Atlanta - Trade with Washington, Jayden Daniels
3. New England - Drake Maye
4. Who cares?
5. Who cares?
6. Who cares?
7. Who Cares?
8. Washington - Who the Hell cares? We just got shut out on the top three QBs!

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do you just roll with EB for a year and see what pops up next year versus settling for a dude that could just be wheel spinning for the next 4 years

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[quote=mredskins;1358139]do you just roll with EB for a year and see what pops up next year versus settling for a dude that could just be wheel spinning for the next 4 years[/quote]

I shouldn't even need to debate you on this idea. Surely you must know why we shouldn't keep EB. Isn't it bad enough that Mayhew and Hurney are still around?

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Big changes in the front office weren't likely to happen right away. Front offices have been scouting and putting together intel for a couple months now. Next year is when we may see some changes.

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[quote=mredskins;1358139]do you just roll with EB for a year and see what pops up next year versus settling for a dude that could just be wheel spinning for the next 4 years[/quote]

Do you really want EB getting his paws on a highly routed rookie QB after seeing the way he handled Sam??

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[quote=MTK;1358153]Do you really want EB getting his paws on a highly routed rookie QB after seeing the way he handled Sam??[/quote]

EB was a disaster for a young QB... Mahomes was the exception because he's literally a top 5 QB ever already. The odds of us landing a guy like that are like winning the lotto... Drake Maye, JD , Caleb , will all have to develop quickly

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mike macdonald working on deal with seattle to be there head coach ,

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so now what quinn ,weaver ?hell no to EB

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Report: Bo Nix's NFL Draft Stock Is Taking A Hit At Senior Bowl (not surprising imo):

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[quote=punch it in;1357979]I agree. I think the big 3 are coming off the board with the first 3 picks BUT he could fall if the Bears stick with Fields, and Tennessee and Arizona don’t go quarterback? We could conceivably trade back with the Titans at 7 and get Daniels? I can’t wait for this draft with actual adults who know football. Giddy about it actually.[/quote]

I'm not willing to take that gamble. When you are in the position to take a QB at 2 you pull the trigger. No guarantee what so ever that Daniels will be there in a trade back. Then what? Hope to trade up in a worse QB draft next season after trotting out some cast off QB and writing off 2024? Who know where they will be picking next year, it could cost what you got in the trade back. And for what? To lose a year and possible settle for a worse QB prospect?

No I believe they will stay at 2 and take whichever QB they like the best. And I'm fine with that.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358258]Report: Bo Nix's NFL Draft Stock Is Taking A Hit At Senior Bowl (not surprising imo):

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/report-bo-nix-s-nfl-draft-stock-is-taking-a-hit-at-senior-bowl/ar-BB1hzySU?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=0004e5de08c043eea8fcc3856e48d093&ei=12[/url][/quote]

He's the same Nix that was bad in the SEC... He was good in Oregon because the PAC12 Plays zero defense...

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[QUOTE=Darrell Green Fan;1358272]I'm not willing to take that gamble. When you are in the position to take a QB at 2 you pull the trigger. No guarantee what so ever that Daniels will be there in a trade back. Then what? Hope to trade up in a worse QB draft next season after trotting out some cast off QB and writing off 2024? Who know where they will be picking next year, it could cost what you got in the trade back. And for what? To lose a year and possible settle for a worse QB prospect?

No I believe they will stay at 2 and take whichever QB they like the best. And I'm fine with that.[/QUOTE]


Well they don’t just “hope” someone will still be there. They will communicate with any other team between 2 and 7 that might need a quarterback. I hear what you are saying, but it isn’t exactly blind faith.

Just pointing out that landing your quarterback and picking up major draft capital is better than just landing your quarterback. Also that with Ron gone and Peters here there is a chance that we can accomplish such things.

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[quote=punch it in;1358295]Well they don’t just “hope” someone will still be there. They will communicate with any other team between 2 and 7 that might need a quarterback. I hear what you are saying, but it isn’t exactly blind faith.

Just pointing out that landing your quarterback and picking up major draft capital is better than just landing your quarterback. Also that with Ron gone and Peters here there is a chance that we can accomplish such things.[/quote]

But it's not just the teams picking 2-7. Any number of teams could trade with one of those teams and jump ahead of the Commanders. No I firmly believe when you have a chance like this you pull the trigger and don't mess around. And I believe that's exactly what they will do, especially if they really like Maye more than Daniels which is entirely possible.

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[QUOTE=Darrell Green Fan;1358329]But it's not just the teams picking 2-7. Any number of teams could trade with one of those teams and jump ahead of the Commanders. No I firmly believe when you have a chance like this you pull the trigger and don't mess around. And I believe that's exactly what they will do, especially if they really like Maye more than Daniels which is entirely possible.[/QUOTE]


No. Nobody can trade with teams picking 2-7 and jump ahead of us. We pick second. The only team anyone can trade with to move ahead of us is Chicago. If some team trades with Chicago to jump ahead of us there is nothing we can do about that.

That isn’t the scenario I am talking about though. What I am saying is that if we are on the clock, and we want Daniels or Maye or whoever than you work those phones. You try and trade back to a spot where you can still get the guy and gain major picks also. It isn’t based on a gamble it is based on intel and some other team that wants say Harrison Jr at 2.

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[quote=punch it in;1358378]No. Nobody can trade with teams picking 2-7 and jump ahead of us. We pick second. The only team anyone can trade with to move ahead of us is Chicago. If some team trades with Chicago to jump ahead of us there is nothing we can do about that.

That isn’t the scenario I am talking about though. What I am saying is that if we are on the clock, and we want Daniels or Maye or whoever than you work those phones. You try and trade back to a spot where you can still get the guy and gain major picks also. It isn’t based on a gamble it is based on intel and some other team that wants say Harrison Jr at 2.[/quote]

I think you missed his point there, punch.
What he means is if you trade back to 7 what's to stop someone below that trading up to 3-6 to pinch your QB?

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[QUOTE=davy;1358382]I think you missed his point there, punch.
What he means is if you trade back to 7 what's to stop someone below that trading up to 3-6 to pinch your QB?[/QUOTE]


Gotcha. Confused me how he put it. It could happen- would be like 4-5 teams that could trade back at that point. But I am assuming when we decide to trade back that we are talking to those teams. Look there are a million scenarios, all i know is it is nice to have respected people running the show and one of those scenarios is us moving back a few spots and still getting one of those 3 quarterbacks.

If Peters thinks it could leave us at 6 or 7 and the big 3 quarterbacks are gone than I agree… don’t do it. I want one of those quarterbacks. I would love to have it unfold where we still get one and gain picks. Obviously we all would.

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unless you gamble and lose. The only real reason someone would be trading up is for a QB. Unless Penix is tops on their board or something, you don't want to get fancy and end up shooting yourself in the foot.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;1358406]unless you gamble and lose. The only real reason someone would be trading up is for a QB. Unless Penix is tops on their board or something, you don't want to get fancy and end up shooting yourself in the foot.[/QUOTE]


Not suggesting gambling. Just utter due diligence and a well vetted maneuver that allows us to pick up Daniels somewhere between 3/4-6/7.

Pipe dream? Sort of, but one that is doable. I wouldn’t trade past 6/7. I think we could get Daniels there. You would have to have a solid handle on what the other 5-6 teams want and whether they would trade out allowing some other team to move way up. That team would have to be willing to overpay heavily for Daniels. Worst case scenario we get some heavy duty compensation for 2, and start building one hell of a roster. Might have to wait another year for a quarterback but if it means a stud TE, OT, and G this time around I wouldn’t be that upset.

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Hate it Punch.
You’ve been watching that Kevin Costner draft movie haven’t you?
Waiting gets you a worst draft position and forces the team to accept the 4th or 5th best QB next year or you gotta trade up giving away all that draft capital you got in trading down plus more.
Just two more wins next year and the team is drafting out of the top 10.

These jackasses couldn’t get a top tier HC. I doubt they are going to pull off any big time draft trades.

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[quote=punch it in;1358438]Not suggesting gambling. Just utter due diligence and a well vetted maneuver that allows us to pick up Daniels somewhere between 3/4-6/7.

Pipe dream? Sort of, but one that is doable. I wouldn’t trade past 6/7. I think we could get Daniels there. You would have to have a solid handle on what the other 5-6 teams want and whether they would trade out allowing some other team to move way up. That team would have to be willing to overpay heavily for Daniels. Worst case scenario we get some heavy duty compensation for 2, and start building one hell of a roster. Might have to wait another year for a quarterback but if it means a stud TE, OT, and G this time around I wouldn’t be that upset.[/quote]

You need to leave your pipe dream ideas at the door because it won't happen. First off there is no way to know what the other teams will do. Teams lie all the time and will never tell a competitor what they will do. And even if they did they are making no promises to Washington that they won't take a good offer for pick # 6 and to another team who will jump ahead of the Commanders.

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See you all on draft day, when we trade out of 2, acquire extra picks, and still land Daniels.

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[quote=punch it in;1358457]See you all on draft day, when we trade out of 2, acquire extra picks, and still land Daniels.[/quote]

Wanna bet? Not only do I think they prefer Maye I don't see a trade back for the reasons already posted

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If we get Chip Kelly we're picking Daniels. They go together like PB&J.

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[QUOTE=Darrell Green Fan;1358459]Wanna bet? Not only do I think they prefer Maye I don't see a trade back for the reasons already posted[/QUOTE]


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31. J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan
34. Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU
38. Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
49. Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
54. Chris Braswell EDGE Alabama
63. Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M
67. Christian Haynes OG UConn
68. Ty'Ron Hopper LB Missouri
80. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson
82. James Williams S Miami (FL)
100. Josh Newton CB TCU
106. Roger Rosengarten OT Washington
118. Sataoa Laumea OT Utah
134. Jared Wiley TE TCU
150. Javion Cohen OG Miami (FL)
193. Will Putnam OC Clemson
2025 NE 2nd
2025 CIN 2nd
2025 KC 2nd
2025 NE 3rd

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[url]https://thespun.com/nfl/colin-cowherd-claims-caleb-williams-doesnt-want-to-play-for-chicago-bears[/url]

Check out this article. What do we do if Caleb refuses to go to Chicago?

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[quote=jamf;1358445]Hate it Punch.
You’ve been watching that Kevin Costner draft movie haven’t you?
Waiting gets you a worst draft position and forces the team to accept the 4th or 5th best QB next year or you gotta trade up giving away all that draft capital you got in trading down plus more.
Just two more wins next year and the team is drafting out of the top 10.

These jackasses couldn’t get a top tier HC. I doubt they are going to pull off any big time draft trades.[/quote]

So out of all the HCs hired, you don't think Dan was in the top tier?

Jim Harbaugh
Dan Quinn
Raheem Morris
Dave Canales
Mike Macdonald
Antonio Pierce
Jerod Mayo
Brian Callahan



I kinda wanted Macdonald (what do I know), but he's probably the only one I would have wanted over Quinn on that list. Harbaugh is intriguing but was probably never an option because he'd want too much control.

It's hard for me to say they didn't get one of the best candidates out there, and possibly the best.

Quinn and Peters have been in plenty of NFL draft rooms. I'm pretty sure they know what they are doing.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1358484][url]https://thespun.com/nfl/colin-cowherd-claims-caleb-williams-doesnt-want-to-play-for-chicago-bears[/url]

Check out this article. What do we do if Caleb refuses to go to Chicago?[/quote]

Call him a little bitch, go tell him to paint his nails, then draft Daniels/Maye.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358489]Call him a little bitch, go tell him to paint his nails, then draft Daniels/Maye.[/quote]

That's one possibility.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358488]So out of all the HCs hired, you don't think Dan was in the top tier?
[/quote]

No. Simple reasoning is he was plan B at best for every coaching vacancy available.

I'm warming up to him as HC if he can get an offensive guru.
End of the day, I was hoping for the next McVay/McDaniel brainiac type guy.

That rah rah bullshit only gets you so far. the game is too complex now.
A coach like Marty Schottenheimer couldn't coach in today's game without elite coordinators.
Dan Campbell was smart by surrounding himself with former NFL players and a spacing guru with McDonald. Unfortunately he made a rah rah meathead decision that probably ended their season.

I like Quinn with Chip Kelly.
I don't like Quinn with Kubiacs son.