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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1348583]Retaliation? [emoji23] Oh boy, I see we are trying to do the old separation of Hamas/Palestine thing. Not gonna happen. You too calling for a cease fire too?

So we know Democrat Socialist are antisemitic bigots and openly support Hamas/Hezbelloh. The Hamas caucus in the House of AOC, Omar, talib, etc have supported orgs and people who have been found to work with these terror orgs. Like CAIR and other.

Mask is off folks

Every last Hamas should be killed in Gaza until they are destroyed. That’s the stance against these barbaric attacks against the innocent.

Iran 6 billion should be frozen immediately and sanctions the previous administration should be placed on Iran again. Biden has allowed 80 billion in Iran oil to flow into the market, that should end.

I can’t believe over 20 Americans have been killed in this terror attacking and we have actual apologists for Hamas.[/QUOTE]


The apologists are for the Palestinian people being held hostage by the hamas you fucking dirty troll.

Fuckin Maga slave playing the race card and politicizing a terror attack. Such a sheep.

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These pro Hamas rallies at colleges, New York, and other places are like Klan rallies…shouting “bless the murderers, gas the Jews” while celebrating the deaths of innocent people at a music festival, babies being beheaded and killed in their cribs.

Antifa, BLM, and the Democrats Socialists are all in attendance shouting these things and voicing their support for more Jews death.

These are the modern Klan rallies, modern Nazi rallies and they’re a bunch of fuckin bigoted Democrats. Fuck them all

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348571]Let me ask you. Do you think what Israel is currently doing for retaliation in Palestine is acceptable? It is okay to say Palestine is getting a shit deal and denounce Hamas it is not either/or[/quote]

Hamas didn't seize power they were chosen by the Palestinians of Gaza. Hamas didn't hide who they were, or what they wanted, and the Palestinians still chose them. After the massacre on Saturday the Palestinians of Gaza (and elsewhere) celebrated the massacre and cheered on Hamas. What is happening to Gaza is not on the Israelis, it is on Hamas and yes also the Palestinians in general in Gaza. Israel takes no pleasure when their efforts result in the deaths of innocents and unlike Hamas the innocents aren't their targets. Israel is doing what is necessary as would we (and have done) under similar circumstances. Is what Israel is doing acceptable? Yes it is.

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Hamas took control they have all the power., the money and the weaponry What are the citizens that literally rely on aid from Israel and Egypt supposed to do? Throw rocks at all the people with all the weaponry? That will end well. (I guess in the end it doesn't matter)

If innocents are being targeted perhaps they should stop bombing apartments. 400 children dead is just part of doing business? I don't think that is morally acceptable. If that is the best option we have we need to come up with better solutions. Perhaps you sleep comfortably at night think about dead children I do not.

This does not mean I support Hamas. Obviously they are heinous and do awful acts but do I think killing civilians to attack an enemy is okay? I do not.

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[quote=nonniey;1348606]Hamas didn't seize power they were chosen by the Palestinians of Gaza. Hamas didn't hide who they were, or what they wanted, and the Palestinians still chose them. After the massacre on Saturday the Palestinians of Gaza (and elsewhere) celebrated the massacre and cheered on Hamas. What is happening to Gaza is not on the Israelis, it is on Hamas and yes also the Palestinians in general in Gaza. Israel takes no pleasure when their efforts result in the deaths of innocents and unlike Hamas the innocents aren't their targets. Israel is doing what is necessary as would we (and have done) under similar circumstances. Is what Israel is doing acceptable? Yes it is.[/quote]

This is true


Democrats in Michigan kill bill to condemn Hamas and honor Americans killed in the terrorist attack:
[url]https://michiganadvance.com/2023/10/12/bipartisan-michigan-house-resolution-to-condemn-violence-in-israel-may-be-doomed/[/url]

The mask is off

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I guess I think bad guys will always break the rules. Good guys need to follow the rules or we lose all credibility.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348610]Hamas took control they have all the power., the money and the weaponry What are the citizens that literally rely on aid from Israel and Egypt supposed to do? Throw rocks at all the people with all the weaponry? That will end well. (I guess in the end it doesn't matter)

If innocents are being targeted perhaps they should stop bombing apartments. 400 children dead is just part of doing business? I don't think that is morally acceptable. If that is the best option we have we need to come up with better solutions. Perhaps you sleep comfortably at night think about dead children I do not.

This does not mean I support Hamas. Obviously they are heinous and do awful acts but do I think killing civilians to attack an enemy is okay? I do not.[/quote]


Hamas didn't take control, they were given control by the Palestinian population of Gaza. And no I don't sleep well knowing children have been killed (I provided the info and direction for an ambush myself that led to the death of 4 kids and an adult (they were planting bombs) that still sticks with me)). I'm certain most of the Israeli's that attacked targets in Gaza don't sleep well either, but it still needs to be done.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348612]I guess I think bad guys will always break the rules. Good guys need to follow the rules or we lose all credibility.[/quote]

The good guys generally do follow the rules as are the Israelis. Innocents aren't being targeted. They are being killed as a result of that targeting but they aren't the targets. I don't get how you can't see the difference. I was talking to a new co-worker and he described an ambush (not related to the one I described above) where they shot up a Taliban arms shipment they killed the 5 Taliban in the front and discovered 3 toddlers had been in the back with the ammo (all killed). He was almost in tears and this was after 20 years. It weighs on him but he knows it was the Taliban that was responsible for those deaths not him.

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I am sorry that you and your coworker had to go through that. I just don't think collateral damage is morally acceptable. We have been doing the same thing for over 100 years but the results are no different it is infuriating.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1348619]I am sorry that you and your coworker had to go through that. I just don't think collateral damage is morally acceptable. We have been doing the same thing for over 100 years but the results are no different it is infuriating.[/quote]

100 years? The results aren't all the same they are mixed. The Nazis and Japanese militarists aren't in power in Germany or Japan, the South Koreans are free, the Baath Party and ISIS aren't in power in Iraq and lots of innocent deaths were part of the cost we paid for that.

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I see Hamas is now taking measures to ensure as many civilians are in the line fire as possible in Gaza (They told Gazans to remain in the area Israel warned them to evacuate).

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[quote=nonniey;1348621]I see Hamas is now taking measures to ensure as many civilians are in the line fire as possible in Gaza (They told Gazans to remain in the area Israel warned them to evacuate).[/quote]

If liberals and shit hole, bigoted organizations like BLM, Democratic Socialist, etc really wanted peace they would be calling for the immediate unconditional surrender of Hamas, and the return of all hostages

But they don’t say that because they support a terrorist organization and the extermination of Jews and the State of Israel. They are the Nazis they claim others to be.

This week has been and eye opener for some (Ackman, Larry Summers, Silverman, etc) but it’s really troubling that a majority of leftists are bigots who ignore the American killed, the babies killed, etc and chose to regurgitate Hamas propaganda in clear support of their killings of Jews.

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[quote=Chico23231;1348622]If liberals and shit hole, bigoted organizations like BLM, Democratic Socialist, etc really wanted peace they would be calling for the immediate unconditional surrender of Hamas, and the return of all hostages

But they don’t say that because they support a terrorist organization and the extermination of Jews and the State of Israel. They are the Nazis they claim others to be.

This week has been and eye opener for some (Ackman, Larry Summers, Silverman, etc) but it’s really troubling that a majority of leftists are bigots who ignore the American killed, the babies killed, etc and chose to regurgitate Hamas propaganda in clear support of their killings of Jews.[/quote]

You're as ignorant as anyone I have ever known STFU.

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[quote=nonniey;1348620]100 years? The results aren't all the same they are mixed. The Nazis and Japanese militarists aren't in power in Germany or Japan, the South Koreans are free, the Baath Party and ISIS aren't in power in Iraq and lots of innocent deaths were part of the cost we paid for that.[/quote]

When I said results are the same I was referring to civilian deaths as the cost of doing business. I would hope that we would have tried to reduce it at all cost possible at this point. Maybe this is the best we can do? I am pretty confident there is a 5 year old Palestinian kid that just lost his parents and in 20 years we will see the cycle continue. wash. rinse. repeat.

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[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/top-secret-hamas-documents-show-terrorists-intentionally-targeted-elem-rcna120310[/url]

Top secret' Hamas documents show that terrorists intentionally targeted elementary schools and a youth center
Maps and documents recovered from the bodies of Hamas attackers reveal a coordinated plan to target children and take hostages inside an Israeli village near Gaza.


Who can defend this? Who is defending Hamas?