Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Avks_TwhkFK0254WFQ4I3f9DubYF?slug=jc-cole_redskins_cowboys_salary_cap_john_mara_owners_032512]Giants co-owner John Mara defended the NFL's cap penalties for the Cowboys, Redskins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

wat a surprise

[QUOTE=That Guy;903719]so would it be fair if we stripped NY of all its draft picks the day before the draft? since taking $36mill the day before FA starts doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of competitive balance...[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't want that any more than what happened to us.

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

NY won't get any punishment, they're not involved except w Mara, and this not relevant to their franchise. The question will be how to fix what's been done. If this is overturned, do we get $1.6 million extra, etc.

I'd say optimistically -- if they return cap space, it would be great to have it for next year anyway. This year will be difficult anyway with a new QB, and by next year we would be prepared to make a more serious playoff run.

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Also, any cap space that goes unused in 2012 could be carried over to 2013. Getting $18m this year - even if it can't be used - can also be tacked on to 2013.

Given that the 'Skins are bringing in a rookie QB, maybe the reduced cap space this year helps temper expectations* a bit, and then the 'Skins have all the room in the world to move next year.


*LOL at tempering 'Skins fans' expectations

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

[quote=HoopheadVII;903751]Also, any cap space that goes unused in 2012 could be carried over to 2013. Getting $18m this year - even if it can't be used - can also be tacked on to 2013.

Given that the 'Skins are bringing in a rookie QB, maybe the reduced cap space this year helps temper expectations* a bit, and then the 'Skins have all the room in the world to move next year.


*LOL at [B]tempering 'Skins fans' expectations[/B][/quote]
As might be expected, I checked several sources and there is no known reference to the phrase......

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

John Mara is a douche bag.
He should shut his fat cake hole.
He can suck the "spirit" out of my ass crack.

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;903757]John Mara is a douche bag.
He should shut his fat cake hole.
He can suck the "spirit" out of my ass crack.[/quote]

creative, but out of haiku parameters.

Mara's pussy hurts
Werent the contracts league approved?
Skins lawsuit legit

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;903757]John Mara is a douche bag.
He should shut his fat cake hole.
He can suck the "spirit" out of my ass crack.[/quote]

:lol:

Is that from an advance transcript of the statement Jerry Jones plans to make at today's League meeting?

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

[quote=Chico23231;903760]creative, but out of haiku parameters.

Mara's pussy hurts
Werent the contracts league approved?
Skins lawsuit legit[/quote]

I like where this is going.

The owners are gay.
This fiasco is as well.
John Mara blows goats.

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

[quote=VegasSkinsFan;903709]I don't see this going to arbitrator. No way the nfl wants to have to answer question regarding collusion in front of the nflpa. I'm not sure if testimony given to the arbitrator would be sealed or not.[/quote]

NFL has no choice. Each team has this right.

I wonder if it is shown that Mara was acting not in the best interest of the league but in the best interest of his team could he lose his position at the head of this board?

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;903780]NFL has no choice. Each team has this right.

I wonder if it is shown that Mara was acting not in the best interest of the league but in the best interest of his team could he lose his position at the head of this board?[/quote]

Depends on on how this plays out. If the league gets smacked down decisively perhaps JJ and DS decide to seek out the proverbial "pound of flesh".

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He should, what's to stop him from doing this BS in the future?

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Well common sense would dictate that the league would have never pursued this issue in such a manner. Usually the league is far more strategic in its actions. Why in this case they were so...clumsy...perplexes me. I think this has changed my view on Goodell. I was at worst neutral on him from before believing a lot of the criticism was severely unwarranted but this smacks of a commissioner who is just jumping when his bosses say to. He should have been able to see how this could potentially play out in disastrous way and soothed the more emotional desires of the "aggrieved" owners.

Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess
 

[quote=FRPLG;903787][B]Well common sense would dictate that the league would have never pursued this issue in such a manner. Usually the league is far more strategic in its actions. Why in this case they were so...clumsy...perplexes me. [/B]I think this has changed my view on Goodell. I was at worst neutral on him from before believing a lot of the criticism was severely unwarranted but this smacks of a commissioner who is just jumping when his bosses say to. He should have been able to see how this could potentially play out in disastrous way and soothed the more emotional desires of the "aggrieved" owners.[/quote]

Agreed. They bungled this from day one it seems. Failing to follow their by-laws by failing to follow a vote, violating the terms of the current CBA by imposing different salary cap numbers on different teams and, of course, Mara basically admitting that the owners colluded to violate the salary cap.

If I am the league's lawyer right now, I am having a serious sit down with Mara and explaining, in very small words, "collusion", "new evidence" followed by "treble damages". What a moron.

Especially in light of the manner in which the Skins pursued this. They attacked it on a procedural defects saying that the current by-laws and CBA weren't not followed. Clearly, they were trying to minimize the larger impact by not attacking the the substantive issue that the NFL is penalizing them for failing to collude. Mara's comments and intransigence may leave them no alternative but to blow this thing up.

DS and JJ must have really, really pissed them off.