Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

Garcon and DJax will be back. Their salary numbers are close to market value for starting WR's.

Crabtree got $35 million over four years with $19 million guaranteed.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=Schneed10;1138405]Eagles signed Zach Ertz today to a 5-year $42.5M extension with $20M guaranteed. So that's an average of $8.5M per year.

Ertz finished with 75 receptions for 853 yards, which rank 6th and 7th respectively amongst tight ends this year.

This is pertinent because Reed will be a free agent in 2017. Have to figure Reed deserves $10M per year. He's definitely better than Ertz.[/quote]

sadness for our cap. the problem is this year felt like the only time he was healthy and i think he still missed games. once he gets paid does he revert to the guy that refuses to play with a stubbed toe?

I do like him, and i'd err on the side of paying him, but his injury history is still a concern.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=OmahaRedskins;1138415]Garcon and DJax will be back. Their salary numbers are close to market value for starting WR's.

Crabtree got $35 million over four years with $19 million guaranteed.[/quote]

I wouldnt be so sure.
Garcon isnt getting any younger and Jackson is fragile and did some stupid stuff this year.
Just because the money is good doesnt mean we need to stick.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=That Guy;1138431]sadness for our cap. the problem is this year felt like the only time he was healthy and i think he still missed games. once he gets paid does he revert to the guy that refuses to play with a stubbed toe?

I do like him, and i'd err on the side of paying him, but his injury history is still a concern.[/quote]

Pretty sure McLovin likes him.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1138437]I wouldnt be so sure.

Garcon isnt getting any younger and Jackson is fragile and did some stupid stuff this year.

Just because the money is good doesnt mean we need to stick.[/QUOTE]


Good luck getting either to take a cut. Both are earning what they would on the open market. We'll probably ride with them again this year and part ways the next.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=That Guy;1138431]sadness for our cap. the problem is this year felt like the only time he was healthy and i think he still missed games. once he gets paid does he revert to the guy that refuses to play with a stubbed toe?

I do like him, and i'd err on the side of paying him, but his injury history is still a concern.[/quote]

I think you pay him, with some injury protection clauses. Again, I really trust our FO to get contracts that aren't high risk, but still let players know they are "wanted" as KC puts it.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=MTK;1138440]Good luck getting either to take a cut. Both are earning what they would on the open market. We'll probably ride with them again this year and part ways the next.[/quote]
Right, and we have young guys who should be stepping into the roles, although DJax is still a special talent.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1138442]Right, and we have young guys who should be stepping into the roles, although DJax is still a special talent.[/quote]

For depth other than Crowder (hes basically a #3 anyways) I dont see anyone worth talking about.
I would not be opposed to taking a WR in the 2nd or third.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;1138444]For depth other than Crowder (hes basically a #3 anyways) I dont see anyone worth talking about.
I would not be opposed to taking a WR in the 2nd or third.[/quote]

I think Ross has some potential, and Crowder with time could easily move up.

We need that #1 type threat eventually but I think that's next year's draft. We have good talent and depth on roster this year, need to build the lines and back end of the defense.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

For this up coming season I would keep both Jackson and Garcon. Use the draft to fill the holes we have instead of creating more.

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If you keep both, what do you do if you want to resign Reed? I think keeping both would keep us from doing a deal with Reed after next season. I'd love to keep both if it means restructuring their deals, but otherwise, I think we'll have to let one go. After seeing what Jackson did for our offense, I'd lean towards him. Garcon just always seemed to come up in the clutch and I love just how angry he is. I'm fine with dipping a toe into FA, but we'd have to be DAMN sure our draft works out (and for the first time in a long time, I'm 100% confident it will).

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1138445]I think Ross has some potential, and Crowder with time could easily move up.

We need that #1 type threat eventually but I think that's next year's draft. We have good talent and depth on roster this year, need to build the lines and back end of the defense.[/quote]

With how deep the WR classes have been in the last 2 years, don't be surprised if thst guy is picked in the 2nd or 3rd round. A Tyler Boyd for example.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1138441]I think you pay him, with some injury protection clauses. Again, I really trust our FO to get contracts that aren't high risk, but still let players know they are "wanted" as KC puts it.[/QUOTE]


Agreed.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

Have to keep DJax. He changes the field dynamics when he is out there. Dumbest move Kelly did in Philly was letting him go. We shouldn't repeat the mistake.

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

[quote=FRPLG;1138480]Have to keep DJax. He changes the field dynamics when he is out there. Dumbest move Kelly did in Philly was letting him go. We shouldn't repeat the mistake.[/quote]

Yup, DJax is an absolute must keep. Garcon, while having a really solid year, is an easier guy to replace when it comes to skill set. Crowder is penciled in as a great slot guy.

Roberts is out the door.

Grant and Ross...Grant hasn't developed and is slow, BYE. Ross contributes on special teams and can run past people...Hey stays and continues to grow.

IMO we should draft a WR to take Grant spot.

OR we could cut Garcon and sign a Free Agent like a Marvin Jones. As well draft that WR.