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[quote=dmek25;535331]sorry giantone, never heard of him :)[/quote]



Brown was a four-year starter in Houston — or at least he would’ve been if he hadn’t fractured his right forearm in the Texans’ Week 3 game last season and missed the final 13 games. He had surgery to repair the break the next day, and according to Wiestling he’s now “100 percent healthy (and) was cleared to play at the end of December.” So he’ll be ready for the May mini-camp of whichever team signs him.

At 6-foot, 208 pounds, Brown is known more for his run defense than his pass defense. He could compete for a starting job, though, next to either Michael Johnson or Kenny Phillips. At the very least he’d be part of a safety rotation that is currently only two-men deep.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;535332]I thought he was a solid tackle. Why would Cinci be letting him go? If he becomes available, wouldn't he be the best tackle on the market??[/quote]

Jones has struggled w/ injuries the last 2 years and otherwise appears to have declined a bit in ability... he's not a franchise LT at this point and Cinci would be wise to use the 6th overall to replace him... in which case he'd be cut after the draft cuz why pay the guy franchise LT money to be a backup. I just doubt he'd command big money cuz there's really a lot of OT talent coming in the draft... i tend to think 6 or maybe 7 guys from the position will get drafted in the 1st round alone. I'm def not saying this is a good plan for us but just something we might be able to fall back on...

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[B]Best under 30 and both real needs at this point..Signing them would change our whole draft board.

[/B]6. Khalif Barnes, OT: If the evaluation was based on size and talent alone, he wouldn’t even be on the market. But Barnes has had trouble off the field, and gave up 7½ sacks and committed nine penalties last season. He’s still young (26) and if he could get some discipline in his life, he could be a good starting tackle well into his 30s.

7. Angelo Crowell, LB: Some personnel men think his decision-making is inconsistent, but he was undeniably productive before suffering a season-ending knee injury last year. He’s got the size and speed to play inside or out in either a 3-4 or 4-3. If it weren’t for the lag of that knee injury, he’d be long gone by now.

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;535483][B]Best under 30 and both real needs at this point..Signing them would change our whole draft board.

[/B]6. Khalif Barnes, OT: If the evaluation was based on size and talent alone, he wouldn’t even be on the market. But Barnes has had trouble off the field, and gave up 7½ sacks and committed nine penalties last season. He’s still young (26) and if he could get some discipline in his life, he could be a good starting tackle well into his 30s.

7. Angelo Crowell, LB: Some personnel men think his decision-making is inconsistent, but he was undeniably productive before suffering a season-ending knee injury last year. He’s got the size and speed to play inside or out in either a 3-4 or 4-3. If it weren’t for the lag of that knee injury, he’d be long gone by now.[/quote]

Did you get your list from this?

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aj8xNmCptcPgUGELw9iczXJDubYF?slug=cr-remainingfreeagents030909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns]Free agent bargains and players to beware - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Personally I vote for signing Leigh Bodden and cutting Smoot.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;535621]Did you get your list from this?

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aj8xNmCptcPgUGELw9iczXJDubYF?slug=cr-remainingfreeagents030909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns"]Free agent bargains and players to beware - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

Personally I vote for signing Leigh Bodden and cutting Smoot.[/quote]

It would cost us $4.2M to cut Smoot, which is almost identical to his salary this year anyway. Plus we'd have to pay Bodden. Not sure if this is possible given our other needs.

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Wow, the Bengals are giving Coles almost 10 mil of guaranteed money.

[url=http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090310/SPT02/303100049/1066]Coles owed $9.75M in '09 | Cincinnati Enquirer | Cincinnati.Com[/url]

Pats picked up Leigh Bodden (queue in generic praise for their FO/rant for our FO)

[url=http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2009/03/patriots_agree_2.html]Patriots agree to terms with Leigh Bodden - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com[/url]

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Cowboys picked up Gerald Sensabaugh. Not a bad move there

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Bodden is a steal for the Pats, but what else is new. We probably didn't have the cap space to throw at a non issue like that, honestly (it's less that we don't have enough, but that we don't have means to create any more should we run out), but I'm guessing his contract is not quite what Hall's looks like.

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The cowpukes new pacturd....? Get rid of a few turds just to start bringing more in....NICE. :doh:

Surely he was going to go enlist in the military...3 guns, one of which was an AK......? geez

COWBOYS CUFF SENSABAUGH
Posted by Mike Florio on March 10, 2009, 1:09 p.m.

Free-agent safety Gerald Sensabaugh, a former Jaguar who has been arrested three times in roughly two years in his hometown of Kingsport, Tennessee, has agreed to terms with the Cowboys, according to Todd Archer of the Dallas Morning News.

It’s a one-year deal.

Sensabaugh will provide depth to a depth chart that has lost Roy Williams, and could still lose free-agent Keith Davis.

Last month, Sensabaugh was busted for driving his Bentley on a suspended license. He had three guns in the car at the time ([B]including an AK-47[/B]) but apparently was in legal possession of the weapons.

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Driving on a suspended license isn't quite 15+ arrests in four years.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;535666]The cowpukes new pacturd....? Get rid of a few turds just to start bringing more in....NICE. :doh:

Surely he was going to go enlist in the military...3 guns, one of which was an AK......? geez

COWBOYS CUFF SENSABAUGH
Posted by Mike Florio on March 10, 2009, 1:09 p.m.

Free-agent safety Gerald Sensabaugh, a former Jaguar who has been arrested three times in roughly two years in his hometown of Kingsport, Tennessee, has agreed to terms with the Cowboys, according to Todd Archer of the Dallas Morning News.

It’s a one-year deal.

Sensabaugh will provide depth to a depth chart that has lost Roy Williams, and could still lose free-agent Keith Davis.

Last month, Sensabaugh was busted for driving his Bentley on a suspended license. He had three guns in the car at the time ([B]including an AK-47[/B]) but apparently was in legal possession of the weapons.[/quote]

Yeah but he's not a model citizen either.

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I would throw a deal at Tennessee's CB Reynaldo Hill, or Oakland's CB Justin Miller right now.

Hill is not to be confused with former Miami and current Denver Safety Renaldo Hill.

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Orlando Pace was just released.

[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/10/rams-release-pace/]ProFootballTalk.com - RAMS RELEASE PACE[/url]

What about a stop-gap solution with Pace and using our 13th overall on DE or LB?

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[quote=Skinny Tee;535675]Orlando Pace was just released.

[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/10/rams-release-pace/]ProFootballTalk.com - RAMS RELEASE PACE[/url]

What about a stop-gap solution with Pace and using our 13th overall on DE or LB?[/quote]

I guess the question would be how cheap can we get him and how much durable is he going to be. I don't remember if he was hurt last year or not.

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[quote=Ruhskins;535677]I guess the question would be how cheap can we get him and how much durable is he going to be. I don't remember if he was hurt last year or not.[/quote]

He apparently played most of last year but was out 2006 and 2007 season due to injury.

He's on his last pair of legs but may be serviceable if we are looking at defense with the 13th overall.

I'd still rather have a youth movement on the OL but if there is a stellar defensive player on the board I wouldn't want to be precluded from picking him.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;535675]Orlando Pace was just released.

[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/10/rams-release-pace/]ProFootballTalk.com - RAMS RELEASE PACE[/url]

What about a stop-gap solution with Pace and using our 13th overall on DE or LB?[/quote]

Hey SmootSmacks magic 8 ball works ;)
[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/28686-jason-taylor-released-7.html#post532907"]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/28686-jason-taylor-released-7.html#post532907[/URL]

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[quote=Skinny Tee;535678]He apparently played most of last year but was out 2006 and 2007 season due to injury.

He's on his last pair of legs but may be serviceable if we are looking at defense with the 13th overall.

I'd still rather have a youth movement on the OL but if there is a stellar defensive player on the board I wouldn't want to be precluded from picking him.[/quote]

Thanks for the info, I wasn't sure when was it that he was injured. Getting someone like Pace right now would be a question of $$ and interest. I don't think someone like him should be paid that much (I mean the Rams tried to trade him unsuccessfully). And whether he'd be willing to come here, I'm not sure if they would start him right away or make him compete with JJ and Heyer. According to JLC, VC is looking for a starting tackle though, and I think Pace would be one.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;535675]Orlando Pace was just released.

[URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/10/rams-release-pace/"]ProFootballTalk.com - RAMS RELEASE PACE[/URL]

What about a stop-gap solution with Pace and using our 13th overall on DE or LB?[/quote]

NO THANKS! Hes old and has to many injuries. He "might" be able to play a year or two else where. Not in DC!

Not to mention hes a LT which we don't need.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;535683]NO THANKS! Hes old and has to many injuries. He "might" be able to play a year or two else where. Not in DC!

Not to mention hes a LT which we don't need.[/quote]

He could extend his longevity at the tackle position if he slides over to RT, but I want a young solution at tackle, not another old stop-gap.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;535683]NO THANKS! Hes old and has to many injuries. He "might" be able to [B]play a year or two[/B] else where. Not in DC!

Not to mention hes a LT which we don't need.[/quote]

I think the whole purpose would be for him to be a stop-gap and allowed the team to use the #13 on a defensive player (i.e. LB). While no one wants our line to get older, we definitely can't just sign a FA b/c they are young.

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[quote=Ruhskins;535687]I think the whole purpose would be for him to be a stop-gap and allowed the team to use the #13 on a defensive player (i.e. LB). While no one wants our line to get older, we definitely can't just sign a FA b/c they are young.[/quote]

Well you certainly don't want to sign an old vet. That has injury problems like most of the current O-line what sense does that make?

Then try to play him out of position. Hes a LT! Makes even less sense.

If you want a RT to replace OR challenge JJ. Get a FA, RT in here.

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[quote=GTripp0012;535665]Bodden is a steal for the Pats, but what else is new. We probably didn't have the cap space to throw at a non issue like that, honestly (it's less that we don't have enough, but that we don't have means to create any more should we run out), but I'm guessing his contract is not quite what Hall's looks like.[/quote]

We could have had him for $750,000, dumb not to sign him. We could have cut Thrash or Yodder.

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[quote=Ruhskins;535687]I think the whole purpose would be for him to be a stop-gap and allowed the team to use the #13 on a defensive player (i.e. LB). While no one wants our line to get older, we definitely can't just sign a FA b/c they are young.[/quote]

Exactly. I couldnt have said it better myself. Signing Pace would be a brilliant move. Between Samuels and Pace, i'd probably move Samuels to RT and keep Pace at LT. Next year we could draft a T with our 1st round pick and groom him behind Samuels and Pace.

This year, we could sit at 13 and take Maualuga if he's still there or trade down in the first (if we find a partner) and pick up a 2nd round pick. In the latter scenario, id draft LB and DE with my first two picks and use the third rounder on a project lineman.

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Oh boy. Here comes the Orlando Pace thread....

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Pace is better than nothing. But, that's about it. He's probably a better one year option at RT than Jansen, but we can rely on him for about three weeks before we can expect him to be injured.

He'd be a good fit as our second string LT. But if we try to play him at RT, we'd likely just lose him for the year.

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[quote=GMScud;535700]Oh boy. Here comes the Orlando Pace thread....[/quote]

Been waiting for this moment :)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/532907-post100.html[/url]

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it depends on the cost. pace would be a good one year option, but with his history, i wouldn't guarantee him much money... that way he can be cut when he gets hurt and whatever he didn't earn can go somewhere else...

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[quote=SmootSmack;535704]Been waiting for this moment :)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/532907-post100.html[/url][/quote]

I do remember saying no to him then

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What about Marvel Smith from the Steelers. I know that he was hurt last year but I heard him on Sirius NFL radio a couple of weeks ago and he said that he was 100%. He started out as a RT when he first was drafted by the Steelers and moved to LT a few years ago. I haven't heard much about him during the free agency period but he was a solid player when healthy.

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[quote=89moss89;535716]What about Marvel Smith from the Steelers. I know that he was hurt last year but I heard him on Sirius NFL radio a couple of weeks ago and he said that he was 100%. He started out as a RT when he first was drafted by the Steelers and moved to LT a few years ago. I haven't heard much about him during the free agency period but he was a solid player when healthy.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure he's going back to Pittsburgh

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;535699]Exactly. I couldnt have said it better myself. Signing Pace would be a brilliant move. Between Samuels and Pace, i'd probably move Samuels to RT and keep Pace at LT. Next year we could draft a T with our 1st round pick and groom him behind Samuels and Pace.

This year, we could sit at 13 and take Maualuga if he's still there or trade down in the first (if we find a partner) and pick up a 2nd round pick. In the latter scenario, id draft LB and DE with my first two picks and use the third rounder on a project lineman.[/quote]

The first part I agree with. Why take a risk with an unproven pick when we can get an all pro in Pace for 1 year? He can extend his career by moving to the right side where he won't face top pass rushers. SIGN PACE!!! I'd keep Samuels at LT and move Pace RT and draft a sure OT (I think Oher and Smith are risky at 13). I would not take Malauga, but other than that I agree with you for once BHA.

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Word is at the WP that Doughty will sign a one year contract to resign with the Skins.

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[url=http://www.chargers.com/news/headlines/lb-burnett-agrees.htm]Chargers.com - News » Headlines » LB Burnett agrees to two-year deal[/url]

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;535752]Word is at the WP that Doughty will sign a one year contract to resign with the Skins.[/quote]

Thought that was a done deal, not official yet?

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[quote=SmootSmack;535774]Thought that was a done deal, not official yet?[/quote]

I don't think it's official until the paperwork has been inked.

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Looks like LT is staying with the Chargers...

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3968954]Disaster averted: LaDainian Tomlinson back with Chargers for '09 - ESPN[/url]

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Shouldn't they Doughty and Fincher stuff go on this thread? Why start a new one on each player we sign or resign?

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My god do we really want one giant thread? What is this aversion to starting new threads lately?

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[quote=Mattyk72;535900]My god do we really want one giant thread? What is this aversion to starting new threads lately?[/quote]

Ditto. I think the idea of having one thread for all free agent talk is retarded. Break out individual subjects (ie, players) into its own thread. That's what threads are for! Much easier to sift through multiple threads than it is a single thread with 800 posts.

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I like both, the one big generic thread that catches all the names and trades, and then spinoffs, when a player of merit (by the thread starter at least) comes available or is signed. I've really enjoyed the board so far this off season.