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[quote=tmandoug1;606126]UMMMMMMMMMMMMM they were on the field all day, and the points they gave up were because of offense and special teams,,,,,watch the game dude.[/quote]

I watched it, the same mistakes were committed. Can't stop 3rd down conversions and shitty tackling.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;606121]I agree that the defense played better, but still giving up a fifteen point lead and allowing 18 points in a quarter and a half is bad. Especially for as good as our D is supposed to be. Carolina made some offensive adjustments and we didn't respond.[/quote]
Well it goes back to the team not being able to put up points. No one can keep opposing teams to 7 points every game. 20 or less points is to be expected from opposing teams, the Skins need to score more then 21 each week and we can't get to 20. It's not our defense its our offense that sucks.

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:spank: Okay...It is really time for the players to get with it. Coach Zorn and the other coaches are doing what they can, but the players are not working together as a team. The best thing that can be done is to start docking pay until the players start respecting their coaches and playing as a team.
Replacing coaches until you start winning is not the answer. There are players who will be glad to get out there and play for a lot less than these guys if given the chance. Start replacing the high paid players with players who want to and can play football but weren't given the chance. I think that is the solution.
Daniel Snyder, stop changing coaches...while we all loved having Coach Gibbs back, you can see that what he tried to do didn't work well either. Give the players the ultimatum, not the coaches.

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Well, Im sure that we'll be looking at the wire this week. I just hope Samuels injury is nothing serious, like something needing surgery, altho, if he does need it, this would be the time to get it over and done with, since our season is over and done with, lol.

First the Lions, now the Panthers, and with the way KC played today, we'll giftwrap a W and give it to em next week as well.

This team is a big disappointment. My oh my how far we've come from the Glory days of the Mid 80 - Early 90's. What has happened to this franchise? Are we becoming the raiders of the NFC??????

I really hope not, but it doesn't look good my friends.

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[quote=itshardtobehumble;606133]:spank: Okay...It is really time for the players to get with it. Coach Zorn and the other coaches are doing what they can, but the players are not working together as a team. The best thing that can be done is to start docking pay until the players start respecting their coaches and playing as a team.
Replacing coaches until you start winning is not the answer. There are players who will be glad to get out there and play for a lot less than these guys if given the chance. Start replacing the high paid players with players who want to and can play football but weren't given the chance. I think that is the solution.
Daniel Snyder, stop changing coaches...while we all loved having Coach Gibbs back, you can see that what he tried to do didn't work well either. Give the players the ultimatum, not the coaches.[/quote]

hmmm interesting theory....

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[quote=Miller101;606128]WHAT!?!? Little league? WTF is little league?! the refs made a blantlanty bullshit call that led to eight points for our opponent. And its "little league" to say that? Its not little league its holding the officiating crew accountable for their actions! Its telling the NFL that they have a real problem with bad calls. Have you ever heard, "Let the players play the game"? This game wasn't decided by players. It was decided by officials. Thats bullcrud! Thats wrong! Thats fixed! Its alot of things. But, it sure as heck ain't....................."little league".

What the heck is "little league"?[/quote]

UHHH dude it hit his foot, that means free ball. Little league means jeez fellas we lost because the refs were not on our side, but you played great lets get some pizza fellas. Point: Should not have come down to that play, we had our chances and we blew it. That play had nothing to do with the loss, we should have been up by 14 at that point. Now leave me alone I am going to have a beer and put my new PX4 storm to my head,,,,,,,jk.

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[QUOTE=SBXVII;606132]Well it goes back to the team not being able to put up points. No one can keep opposing teams to 7 points every game. 20 or less points is to be expected from opposing teams, the Skins need to score more then 21 each week and we can't get to 20. It's not our defense its our offense that sucks.[/QUOTE]
It's not so much the offense that sucks...it is the fact that they don't play together...everyone is out for themselves. There is no "i" in team guys...Dan Snyder needs to give the $$$$ players an ultimatum or let the third string play for a while instead of being the benchwarmers.

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[quote=Mechanix544;606134]Well, Im sure that we'll be looking at the wire this week. I just hope Samuels injury is nothing serious, like something needing surgery, altho, if he does need it, this would be the time to get it over and done with, since our season is over and done with, lol.

First the Lions, now the Panthers, and with the way KC played today, we'll giftwrap a W and give it to em next week as well.

This team is a big disappointment. My oh my how far we've come from the Glory days of the Mid 80 - Early 90's. What has happened to this franchise? Are we becoming the raiders of the NFC??????

I really hope not, but it doesn't look good my friends.[/quote]

Samuels just had a stinger. He probably should be good to go next week.

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[quote=tmandoug1;606136]UHHH dude it hit his foot, that means free ball. Little league means jeez fellas we lost because the refs were not on our side, but you played great lets get some pizza fellas. Point: Should not have come down to that play, we had our chances and we blew it. That play had nothing to do with the loss, we should have been up by 14 at that point. Now leave me alone I am going to have a beer and put my new PX4 storm to my head,,,,,,,jk.[/quote]

whoooa..put the storm down buddy...replace it with another beer

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A 17-2 lead was blown to the winless Panthers. Zorn better get his sh together

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;606140]A 17-2 lead was blown to the winless Panthers. Zorn better get his sh together[/quote]

You mean Blache.

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[quote=doughtydoubter;606139]whoooa..put the storm down buddy...replace it with another beer[/quote]

SOK wife took it away and made me watch the 92 season. I am good now.

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[quote=itshardtobehumble;606133]:spank:[B] Okay...It is really time for the players to get with it. Coach Zorn and the other coaches are doing what they can, but the players are not working together as a team. The best thing that can be done is to start docking pay until the players start respecting their coaches and playing as a team. [/B]
Replacing coaches until you start winning is not the answer. There are players who will be glad to get out there and play for a lot less than these guys if given the chance. Start replacing the high paid players with players who want to and can play football but weren't given the chance. I think that is the solution.
Daniel Snyder, stop changing coaches...while we all loved having Coach Gibbs back, you can see that what he tried to do didn't work well either. Give the players the ultimatum, not the coaches.[/quote]

Huh.. WTF are you talking about...? Shit runs downhill, it starts at the top.

Zorn is in way over his head, as I hope you watched the game. You do realize we are 4-10 in the last 14 GAMES UNDER Zorn CORRECT?

Zorn is accountable and has LOST this team, WAKE UP!

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[quote=itshardtobehumble;606133]:spank: Okay...It is really time for the players to get with it. Coach Zorn and the other coaches are doing what they can, but the players are not working together as a team. The best thing that can be done is to start docking pay until the players start respecting their coaches and playing as a team.
Replacing coaches until you start winning is not the answer. There are players who will be glad to get out there and play for a lot less than these guys if given the chance. Start replacing the high paid players with players who want to and can play football but weren't given the chance. I think that is the solution.
Daniel Snyder, stop changing coaches...while we all loved having Coach Gibbs back, you can see that what he tried to do didn't work well either. Give the players the ultimatum, not the coaches.[/quote]
I guess your trying some sort of reverse psychology? Since we all have been bashing the coaching, play calling, and scouts who brought in these players and nothing has happened so by defending them and blaming it on the [B]"Exicution" [/B]your hoping DS/Cerrato get confused and fire Zorn. Right? Please tell me your not defending Zorn and the lack of knowledgable assistants?

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next week same posts same time

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[quote=tmandoug1;606136]UHHH dude it hit his foot, that means free ball. Little league means jeez fellas we lost because the refs were not on our side, but you played great lets get some pizza fellas. Point: Should not have come down to that play, we had our chances and we blew it. That play had nothing to do with the loss, we should have been up by 14 at that point. Now leave me alone I am going to have a beer and put my new PX4 storm to my head,,,,,,,jk.[/quote]

YEAHHHHHH I need a beer too. And a couple of shots......................

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Just having to point to a QUESTIONABLE FAIR CATCH CALL and blame the entire loss on that blown call makes us, as a team and as fans, look completely fucking pitiful.

It should have never come to that. Not even close. Its a shame, just a shame........

I wish I had all the answers, but I too, am completely baffled. Talk about a team having identity issues.

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shots at my house to help us all forget...

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;606141]You mean Blache.[/quote]

Offense couldnt get drives going to keep the ball
Defense wore down
I wouldnt put all the blame on Blache

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;606141]You mean Blache.[/quote]

Oh BS... we basically played without an offense today. The defense was directly responsible for 14 of our 17 points today.

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What Bull Durham thinks about that fair catch call:

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZhDdcE2Iw[/YT]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZhDdcE2Iw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZhDdcE2Iw[/ame]

Turn the volume down if your at work.

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Anyone fired yet?

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Remember when we used to laugh at the cardinals when they were in our division,,,,,,, nuff said. Good night fellas.

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[quote=Gmanc711;606150]Oh BS... we basically played without an offense today. The defense was directly responsible for 14 of our 17 points today.[/quote]

and also allowing Carolina back in the game.

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Anyone fired yet?



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[quote=SFREDSKIN;606141]You mean Blache.[/quote]
How in the hell do you blame the D after they set up the only points we had and the O could have just sat on the bench. For people to keep blaming our bad play on the D have no clue about football or are not watching the games.

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[quote=itshardtobehumble;606137]It's not so much the offense that sucks...it is the fact that they don't play together...everyone is out for themselves. There is no "i" in team guys...[B]Dan Snyder needs to give the $$$$ players an ultimatum or let the third string play for a while instead of being the benchwarmers[/B].[/quote]

That might be a good idea. I noticed you said SNYDER needs to give the players an ultimatum not Zorn. I think that says alot.

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[quote=47FAN;606155]Anyone fired yet?



?????????????????????????????????????[/quote]

No firings this week. But if we lose next week, Zorn is gone over the bye week.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;606160]No firings this week. But if we lose next week, Zorn is gone over the bye week.[/quote]

sadly i think the writing is on the wall..hes gone afte the bye week no matter what

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4 problems with Jim Zorn
1. Zorn called the slant too much.
2. Zorn, you cant run wide inside the endzone, always run in the middle.
3. Not enough shots down field.
4. You are still coaching

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[quote=firstdown;606156]How in the hell do you blame the D after they set up the only points we had and the O could have just sat on the bench. For people to keep blaming our bad play on the D have no clue about football or are not watching the games.[/quote]

When you spend $153 mil on D, then you better be the best D out there. Look at the 49ers D?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;606163]When you spend $153 mil on D, then you better be the best D out there. Look at the 49ers D?[/quote]

Oh stop, they were on the field the whole game, just stop it man.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;606143]Huh.. WTF are you talking about...? Shit runs downhill, it starts at the top.

Zorn is in way over his head, as I hope you watched the game. You do realize we are 4-10 in the last 14 GAMES UNDER Zorn CORRECT?

[B]Zorn is accountable and has LOST this team,[/B] WAKE UP![/quote]
I don't know if he has lost the team or players, but he has lost me. That was terrible head coaching today, from the challenge to playcalling, to clock/timeout management. He failed on many levels.

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[quote=Green1;606162]4 problems with Jim Zorn
1. Zorn called the slant too much.
2. Zorn, you cant run wide inside the endzone, always run in the middle.
3. Not enough shots down field.
4. You are still coaching[/quote]
Shots down field? Did you watch the game JC didn't even have enough time to throw the slants and you think we can throw the ball down field. This game was lost by the O line.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;606163]When you spend $153 mil on D, then you better be the best D out there. Look at the 49ers D?[/quote]

I'm not looking atr how much money was spent I'm looking at who lost the game. It was the O and most of all the O Line. I just wish the D was our problem.

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[quote=itshardtobehumble;606137]It's not so much the offense that sucks...it is the fact that they don't play together...everyone is out for themselves. There is no "i" in team guys...Dan Snyder needs to give the $$$$ players an ultimatum or let the third string play for a while instead of being the benchwarmers.[/quote]
I'm all for players being docked for their performance, but please don't defend the coaches. Our WR coach has not gotten any play out of his WR's except Moss and ARE, the blocking scheme sucks, Zorn play calling sucks cause he calls the worst plays at the wrong time because "other teams won't expect it." Whoever is evaluating O-line talent needs to be fired. Basically if I was DS I would move Cerrato to a contract roll executive position, bring in a true GM, allow the new GM to bring in good talent scouts to start the process for next yr, fire Zorn and replace with a WCO coach perhaps Sherm Lewis and allow him to bring in anyone he wants, fire Hixon, decide if Buges should stay or go, and hope for the best. Evaluate the team at the end of the season and if Sherm Lewis gets the ship somewhat righted then think about giving him another one yr deal, if the season is crappy as it appears it will be then shit can everything and [B]"Rebuild".[/B]

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[quote=firstdown;606166]Shots down field? Did you watch the game JC didn't even have enough time to throw the slants and you think we can throw the ball down field. This game was lost by the O line.[/quote]

BECAUSE JC cannot audible at the right times.

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[quote=firstdown;606167]I'm not looking atr how much money was spent I'm looking at who lost the game. It was the O and most of all the O Line. I just wish the D was our problem.[/quote]

It was both, lack of depth on the OL and the inability to stop the offense on the D.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;606052]I'm not fooled so easy. I know a terrible team when I see it. Unfortunately for Snyder I watch other games in the NFL and can spot good football when I see it.

That guy can't fool me with big name free agents and superfical additions without having football fundamentals.


Can't say I'm disappointed by this loss. I can't wait to see the fallout on the front office after this foolishness.[/quote]

I think it's more about hoping for the best instead of being fooled Tee.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;606171]It was both, lack of depth on the OL and the inability to stop the offense on the D.[/quote]

I just don't know why Orakpo isnt a full time DE. He seems like he is always in the backfield when he lines up at end.