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[quote=Chico23231;1011569][URL="http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/11/tech/gaming-gadgets/e3-sony-microsoft/index.html?hpt=hp_t3"]Sony hammers Xbox over price, used games - CNN.com[/URL][/quote]

That adds another point to waiting to see which to buy. It sucks if you get a One and the PS4 becomes the console to have. Best to see which is the most popular which generally means where most players are on-line and developers are making games for.

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One thing that Sony is doing that I like is bundling the PS3 with GTA V. That should entice people who have thought about buying a PS3 but haven't for whatever reason. Sony understands that you have to support the PS3 through the transition to next gen, because that will still be a breadwinner for them until the PS4 gets settled in. It won't put up huge numbers for them, but it will definitely help. And we know GTA V will be a huge seller no matter what platform.

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[quote=Chico23231;1011569][url=http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/11/tech/gaming-gadgets/e3-sony-microsoft/index.html?hpt=hp_t3]Sony hammers Xbox over price, used games - CNN.com[/url][/quote]

A comment below the article pretty much sums it up:


[quote]Last night's E3 really was a rout. Sony realized what Microsoft simply refuses to: that online backlash cannot be ignored, and that consumers are simply not willing to have consumer-hostile terms dictated to them. Sony told its customers they were trusted and valuable, that it wasn't automatically assumed everyone's top priority was piracy. I expect it's an unhappy day at Microsoft offices today.[/quote]

Arrogance and stupidity has been the downfall of many companies.

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[quote=mredskins;1011546]Also to add:

Microsoft who gives a fawk that my gaming console can change my TV station. that is why I have a fawking cable box; dipshits! Plus no cable company is going to eliminate their box because that is revenue for them; DUH!

Also all the things the say the One can do with your TV; guess what? I can already do it with my 360/Kinect and it sucks! If you have FiOS it will link up with your 360 and you can watch live TV and tell it by voice to change the channel. Big freaking deal.[/quote]

Never know, they could turn out to be some pretty cool features.

The TV stuff doesn't really interest me either right now as don't really watch much TV in the man cave. But I wouldn't rule out putting an X1 in my living room eventually if it turns out to be the real deal.

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[quote=Mattyk;1011575]Never know, they could turn out to be some pretty cool features.

The TV stuff doesn't really interest me either right now as don't really watch much TV in the man cave. But I wouldn't rule out putting an X1 in my living room eventually if it turns out to be the real deal.[/quote]

Ok but why would you need that? Unless you like yelling at your TV to change the channel every time it is kind of lame. I personally don't see the benefit of incorporating the TV guide.

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[quote=mredskins;1011579]Ok but why would you need that? Unless you like yelling at your TV to change the channel every time it is kind of lame. I personally don't see the benefit of incorporating the TV guide.[/quote]

I think it's going to be more than just voice commands. Plus the whole interface is supposed to be smarter and simplified. Some rumors say they could eventually add live TV and DVR service to compete with cable and satellite. They want it to be an all in one solution, it's not there yet but in a year or two it could be.

People scoffed at the idea of the iPad before it was released, now look at where tablets are. Just saying you never know. People are awfully quick in wanting to declare a winner or loser in all this. It's only just begun.

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[quote=Mattyk;1011583]I think it's going to be more than just voice commands. Plus the whole interface is supposed to be smarter and simplified. Some rumors say they could eventually add live TV and DVR service to compete with cable and satellite. They want it to be an all in one solution, it's not there yet but in a year or two it could be.

People scoffed at the idea of the iPad before it was released, now look at where tablets are. Just saying you never know. People are awfully quick in wanting to declare a winner or loser in all this. It's only just begun.[/quote]

Ok fair enough.

But as a gamer would you not just want them to make a gaming console not some hybrid machine?

I use xbox for online gaming and most my friends do too. Its going to take more than 100 to steer me away from it (evidence being I pay for xbl).

I will consider it though

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[quote=hooskins;1011586]I use xbox for online gaming and most my friends do too. Its going to take more than 100 to steer me away from it (evidence being I pay for xbl).

I will consider it though[/quote]

I agree Xbox Live is still the feather in their cap. PS has a long way to go in that department.

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[quote=mredskins;1011585]Ok fair enough.

But as a gamer would you not just want them to make a gaming console not some hybrid machine?[/quote]

I'm leaning more toward the PS4 myself, like I said the TV stuff really doesn't do much for me right now because of where I have my consoles hooked up. But in the future who knows. I wouldn't rule it out down the line. Right now all I want is a gaming machine. I think a lot of people are in that same boat and the PS4 will have the early advantage. MS will be in catchup mode at the start no doubt.

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[quote=Mattyk;1011589]I'm leaning more toward the PS4 myself, like I said the TV stuff really doesn't do much for me right now because of where I have my consoles hooked up. But in the future who knows. I wouldn't rule it out down the line. Right now all I want is a gaming machine. I think a lot of people are in that same boat and the PS4 will have the early advantage. MS will be in catchup mode at the start no doubt.[/quote]

Just get the Wii U and be done with it!

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[quote=Mattyk;1011475]Xbox One is up for pre-order on Amazon. Anyone taking the day one plunge?[/quote]

I started a post on this last night that amounted to not likely and would be leaning towards the PS4 if I was to get a console early after release. However after seeing that Dead Rising 3 was going to be an exclusive as well as a launch title, well suffice to say that was a huge selling point for me.

So far the only promising PS4 exclusive I've come across is Infamous Second Son which doesn't come out until early 2014.

Surprised myself but I think I'm going to preorder the Xbox One pretty soon and get the PS4 early next year.

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[url=http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/121665-xbox-one-amazon-us-sells-out-of-pre-orders-good-luck-buying-one-at-launch]Xbox One: Amazon US sells out of pre-orders, good luck buying one at launch - Pocket-lint[/url]

For all the bitching people sure snatched up those pre-orders.

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[quote=Mattyk;1011615][url=http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/121665-xbox-one-amazon-us-sells-out-of-pre-orders-good-luck-buying-one-at-launch]Xbox One: Amazon US sells out of pre-orders, good luck buying one at launch - Pocket-lint[/url]

For all the bitching people sure snatched up those pre-orders.[/quote]

I put myself on the list to be notified when more come available though it looks like Best Buy is still accepting pre orders. If I was to get it day one it would depend on Dead Rising 3 being available. I was actually surprised how much better Microsoft did then Sony with the exclusives though it seems similar to last generation as the 360 had a much better library early on then the PS3, though eventually the PS3 seemed to come out on top in terms of exclusives.

Regardless I'm starting to think I need to find a better paying job to get all the toys I have my eyes on :D (ie desktop gaming PC, Xbox One, PS4, and a new 1080p 50 inch flat screen, not to mention games).

I think I'll wait for the first price drop

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My girlfriend works at Target. So I'm waiting for the pre-order there so I can use her 15% off and she get's an additional 5% off.

I'd rather pay $330ish for the PS4 than over $400.

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[url]http://kotaku.com/third-party-publishers-will-have-final-say-on-used-game-512643240[/url]

Still not as restrictive as the Xbox but not nearly as cut and dry as they tried to make it seem last night as they were only talking about the first party titles having no restrictions, but just like this generation the individual publishers can put the same restrictions that are on the Xbox. So pretty much the main distinction is the price(which may be deceiving as there are some reports the new move camera may be required for some features of the games and that's another $60) and the online once a day connection.

I'm personally gonna wait until spring when all the truly next gen games come out and hopefully give them time to work out all the bugs and kinks or at least the major ones and I'll be buying both as I like the ability to play everything.

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It gets worse and worse for Microsoft. Listen to this executive's answer to people without internet access. The arrogance and sheer stupidity. No dumbass, they'll just buy the PS4.

:doh:

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[quote=Mattyk;1011615][url=http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/121665-xbox-one-amazon-us-sells-out-of-pre-orders-good-luck-buying-one-at-launch]Xbox One: Amazon US sells out of pre-orders, good luck buying one at launch - Pocket-lint[/url]

For all the bitching people sure snatched up those pre-orders.[/quote]


Those people are more than likely scalpers who want to try and turn a buck off of it.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1011666]Those people are more than likely scalpers who want to try and turn a buck off of it.[/quote]

Regardless, these consoles will end up in someone's hands by xmas.

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[quote=Mattyk;1011694]Regardless, these consoles will end up in someone's hands by xmas.[/quote]

Also, they don't tell you how many actually were sold. For all we know, it could be 50.....or 500.





Also, Microsoft is just making it easy for the Sony marketing team.


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:laughing-

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[quote=NC_Skins;1011705]Also, they don't tell you how many actually were sold. For all we know, it could be 50.....or 500.[/quote]

I doubt Amazon's stock was 50 units or even just 500. Come on now.

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Also keep in mind PS is golden for selling base models then by the time you start adding stuff too it the Xbox seems like the better deal.

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[quote=Mattyk;1011706]I doubt Amazon's stock was 50 units or even just 500. Come on now.[/quote]

Most likely not, but I'm just pointing out that selling out doesn't really mean anything unless quantitative information is pointed out.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1011713]Most likely not, but I'm just pointing out that selling out doesn't really mean anything unless quantitative information is pointed out.[/quote]

Exactly and others agree with you:

[B][I]Didn't the Zune and Surface Pro also sell out immediately? Microsoft stuff always seems to be in so much demand it sells out 100% of its stock.[/I][/B]
[B][/B][B][I]Or the headline makes it looks like you need to buy it now or you won't be able to get it later. Don't think about it, weigh up your options and make an informed decision because you will miss out! Buy Now! You won't regret it because lots of people must have got it already! 100% is a big number.[/I][/B]
[B][/B][B][I]"Microsoft wouldn't say how many units that pre-order allocation is."[/I][/B]
[B][/B][B][I]I wonder why. It must be so many hundreds of thousands they don't want to embarrass anyone with their success. Please, If the number was significant they'd be screaming it from the rooftops. This is likely just another case of intentionally limited supply to make demand seem exaggerated, or did they have millions of units ready with "Day One 2013" printed on the controllers already?[/I][/B]

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[quote=mredskins;1011715]Exactly and others agree with you:

[B][I]Didn't the Zune and Surface Pro also sell out immediately? Microsoft stuff always seems to be in so much demand it sells out 100% of its stock.[/I][/B]
[B][/B][B][I]Or the headline makes it looks like you need to buy it now or you won't be able to get it later. Don't think about it, weigh up your options and make an informed decision because you will miss out! Buy Now! You won't regret it because lots of people must have got it already! 100% is a big number.[/I][/B]
[B][/B][B][I]"Microsoft wouldn't say how many units that pre-order allocation is."[/I][/B]
[B][/B][B][I]I wonder why. It must be so many hundreds of thousands they don't want to embarrass anyone with their success. Please, If the number was significant they'd be screaming it from the rooftops. This is likely just another case of intentionally limited supply to make demand seem exaggerated, or did they have millions of units ready with "Day One 2013" printed on the controllers already?[/I][/B][/quote]


This says a lot. A mere game passed Xbox one in Amazon sales...lol


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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1011889]This says a lot. A mere game passed Xbox one in Amazon sales...lol


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I thought this info was useless just a few posts ago? Does comparing a $60 game to a $500 console really say much?

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US sales tell a different story

[url=http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_11]Amazon.com Best Sellers: Best Video Games[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1011898]US sales tell a different story

[URL="http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_11"]Amazon.com Best Sellers: Best Video Games[/URL][/quote]

I juts noticed they are calling the $399 PS4 the standard edition which Sony loves to do it is basically like buying a car without wheels. Oh yo uwant to drive it too? then you need the $599 Super Edition.

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[quote=Mattyk;1011891]I thought this info was useless just a few posts ago? Does comparing a $60 game to a $500 console really say much?[/quote]


I said being "sold out" was useless unless it had numbers to go along with it. I posted the picture to show that a brand new gaming system is trailing a game set for the PS3. That shouldn't be happening, especially since that game has been open for orders for over 116 days and the gaming system just opened up for sales. Notice that game isn't beating the PS4 in sales.

..but yes, in the end, without numbers, it doesn't give you a good picture of things.

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[quote=mredskins;1011905]I juts noticed they are calling the $399 PS4 the standard edition which Sony loves to do it is basically like buying a car without wheels. Oh yo uwant to drive it too? then you need the $599 Super Edition.[/quote]

For all the shit MS is taking at least they were a little more up front about things.

It feels like Sony took the easy way out in regard to DRM, publishers will still be able to do what they want in that regard. And I'd bet when the PS5 comes out Sony will fall right in line with what MS is doing now. Just like they did with starting to charge for online play.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1011908]I said being "sold out" was useless unless it had numbers to go along with it. I posted the picture to show that a brand new gaming system is trailing a game set for the PS3. That shouldn't be happening, especially since that game has been open for orders for over 116 days and the gaming system just opened up for sales. Notice that game isn't beating the PS4 in sales.

..but yes, in the end, without numbers, it doesn't give you a good picture of things.[/quote]

Those aren't even the US sales numbers to start with.

Plus, that game is super hyped right now and a surge in sales around the release date shouldn't be a big surprise.

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Microsoft has become the public punching bag from other gaming companies.


[url=http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/13/4426338/nintendo-if-youre-worried-about-used-game-sales-make-better-games]Nintendo: If devs are worried about used game sales, they should make better games | Polygon[/url]


Ouch. :laughing-

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Interesting read


[URL="http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-xbox-engineer-explains-drm-and-microsofts-xbox-one-intentions"]Anonymous Xbox engineer explains DRM and Microsoft's Xbox One intentions[/URL]

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well, steam doesn't allow resale of used digital games at all, so i'm not so sure that part of the MS policy is so weird. people love steam, and it has a lot of good games cheap, and a lot of indy games that are worth a look.

requiring a connection is pretty lame though.

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i bought mlb 2013 last week .. for like 65 bucks.

the game stop clerk jedi mind tricked me into giving him my number so he can look me up in their system. walking into the store i mentally prepared myself to not give them my info and just be able to buy an over-priced game quickly and easily so i can take it home and really piss of my lady as i play it after my kid goes down every night for the next 2 months instead of hanging out w her and watching some show w anthony bourdain's name on it.

this is how it went

clerk: "you are in luck, this is our 2nd to last one"

me: ........................ (mentally telling myself to refuse to give my number)

clerk: are you a game stop member?

me: ...................................... (mentally telling myself i knew this was going to happen and to not give him my number)

clerk: as a member you save ..... blah blah blah for a good 2 mins

me: you know, i dont really buy many video games so im just gonna pass . . .

clerk: let me get the digits

me: 443-912-#### .... (****! im such a ****ing whimp, i suck balls, how the eff did he do that, who the eff is this guy . .)

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I think the people that are crying wolf about the Xbox One (or the PS4) should probably wait until the console comes out and see how things actually are. If DRM means that games will be 30 bucks instead of 60 bucks, I am completely fine with it. Either way, I will probably keep my old 360 (since it was repaired by Microsoft, I can't sell it back) and play old games there.

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Seems like the PS4 is being so hyped up. What if it later turns out to be a flop. You can't believe the hype at times for products like this.