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[quote=Giantone;670539]
LOL............coming from the team that signed AH,that's pretty funny.[/quote]

Previous regime. The decision to sign Haynesworth to such a contract has little to do with the new regime.

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[quote=Giantone;670539][QUOTE=Pocket$ $traight;670335]I agree. We have plenty of time and every year a big name or two gets let go during the offseason.

Btw...IMO...
- Dansby was overpaid.
- Rolle was paid a lot more than we were willing to spend on a safety
- Peppers was definitely overpaid
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LOL............coming from the team that signed AH,that's pretty funny.[/quote]

AH was overpaid, too.

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According to: [url=http://twitter.com/JuddZulgad/status/10094511353]Twitter / JuddZulgad: Vikings free-agent offensi ...[/url] We are closing in on our first FA signing of 2010 with OL Artis Hicks.

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Giantone... you usually are a pretty good sport about your posts. You are coming off very aggressive. For a team who fell apart last year.

YES you guys overpaid for Rolle. Glad it was you and not us.

And yes AH was overpaid. Way to point out the obvious.

Thereis a new regime. these guys will build our teams of the future to beat you. They may not have done much the last few years, but all they needed was some new scenery. We will get it done.

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The Redskins are reportedly closing in on an agreement with free agent OL Artis Hicks.
Hicks has been at Redskins headquarter for most of the day, and he's probably already taken his physical. With so many holes to fill upfront, Hicks' versatility will come in handy for the Redskins.
Source: Judd Zulgad on Twitter

Now, who is Artis Hicks and will he improve our line?

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[url=http://sports.wcco.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=6235&team=16]Player Stats - Artis Hicks - wcco.com[/url]

Time will tell.

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[quote=theJBexperience;670550]The Redskins are reportedly closing in on an agreement with free agent OL Artis Hicks.
Hicks has been at Redskins headquarter for most of the day, and he's probably already taken his physical. With so many holes to fill upfront, Hicks' versatility will come in handy for the Redskins.
Source: Judd Zulgad on Twitter

Now, who is Artis Hicks and will he improve our line?[/quote]

He's a nine yr. vet. G with Philadelphia and Minn. He's 6' 4" 335 age 31. Started 14 games for Philly in 2005 and 14 for Minn. in 2006. Been in the league since 2002.

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Hicks perhaps is a targeted reserve. If so, fine with me.

Justin Fargas is now a FA. He has low mileage and can catch out of the backfield.

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Tony Pashos is a fringe starting RT, Hicks is a fringe NFL player.

Pashos is a good signing if we draft a LT early, and fail to address the line again until late in the draft, we'll be alright with him and Heyer on the right side.

In general, no idea what the line rebuilding plan is. We're not targeting guys with zone blocking experience, and we've brought in a lot of guys. I'm sure Shanahan has a plan, I just hope it's better than, "sign some guys, get lucky".

Hicks has spent his whole career playing for Reid/Childress, and their zone blocking schemes more closely resemble Zorn's than Shanahan's. Not that it's a huge difference.

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Looks like Hicks is officially signed [url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/06/artis-hicks-agrees-to-three-year-deal-with-redskins/]Artis Hicks agrees to three-year deal with Redskins | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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Hicks may not be that good, but Heyer is so bad that he may win out against Heyer.

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Tony Pashos signed as well [url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/06/redskins-add-pashos-too/]Redskins add Pashos, too | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;670560]Hicks may not be that good, but Heyer is so bad that he may win out against Heyer.[/quote]Which is the kind of dualism we have to stay far away from while we rebuild the offense.

This doesn't prevent us from adding better players, but the moves seem more designed to placate a fanbase than improve a team. Not that I'm against either signing in particular, it depends on how we progress with them.

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Glad to see they got Pashos

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I'd like to welcome Tony Pashos the Greek to the Redskins :P

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Florio now says that Pashos left without a contract, and will be taking a visit to Cleveland. Hicks is a confirmed signing.

[url=http://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/10096950511]Twitter / ProFootballTalk: Pashos left Wahington with ...[/url]

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[quote=GTripp0012;670562]Which is the kind of dualism we have to stay far away from while we rebuild the offense.

This doesn't prevent us from adding better players, but the moves seem more designed to placate a fanbase than improve a team. Not that I'm against either signing in particular, it depends on how we progress with them.[/quote]

They'll be gone in two years. Seriously, how is signing stopgap players who are basically nobodies placating the fans?

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[quote=GTripp0012;670565]Florio now says that Pashos left without a contract, and will be taking a visit to Cleveland. Hicks is a confirmed signing.

[URL="http://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/10096950511"]Twitter / ProFootballTalk: Pashos left Wahington with ...[/URL][/quote]
PFT needs to get their act together. Rosenthal posts that we signed Pashos and Florio tweets that he left without a contract. Which one is it?

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;670560]Hicks may not be that good, but Heyer is so bad that he may win out against Heyer.[/quote]

Hicks is a G. Heyer has never played at the G position. Hicks will be competition, something Shanahan wants at all positions.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/06/not-so-fast-pashos-leaves-dc-without-a-deal-visiting-cleveland/]Not so fast: Pashos leaves D.C. without a deal, visiting Cleveland | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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Rick Maese says we signed both, not sure what he knows though!

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[url=http://twitter.com/RickMaese/status/10097614480]Twitter / Rick Maese: Pashos deal def not done. ...[/url]

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[quote=IrMitchell;670509]From what I've read so far it seems like most of you are in denial about how "this new approach" to the offseason is going.


As you guys can see even with the draft all said and done that leaves us with 3 or 4 huge holes in our roster. Now I'm not really trying to go off on a rant which I'm sure I did but, the point is we need to sign free agents and we need to trade, the draft just won't cut it and it confuses me how some of you dont' understand that. Anyways go Redskins and let's hope that these two ex- superbowl winners (MS and BA) get their phones going much faster![/quote]

Is this your first offseason? No team is finished or even close a couple of days in. Cuts aren't done with, trades aren't done with, hell offseason activities haven't even started yet, nor have we had the draft. There is a lot of time left, there will be cuts similar to the ones that we've seen already.

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[quote=Giantone;670539]

LOL............coming from the team that signed AH,that's pretty funny.[/quote]

how so? If fans of any team can recognize it we can

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;670548]Giantone... you usually are a pretty good sport about your posts. You are coming off very aggressive. For a team who fell apart last year.
.[/quote]

Yeah he's been like that since the Giants meltdown, I'd be bitter too, but on my own team's forum. Guess he can't find enough friends on Gnats boards even though they that share the common interest.

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I hope we end up signing Pashos. Between him, Heyer and hopefully Levi one of them would have to work out.... right?

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[quote=GTripp0012;670558]Tony Pashos is a fringe starting RT, Hicks is a fringe NFL player.

Pashos is a good signing if we draft a LT early, and fail to address the line again until late in the draft, we'll be alright with him and Heyer on the right side.

In general, no idea what the line rebuilding plan is. We're not targeting guys with zone blocking experience, and we've brought in a lot of guys. I'm sure Shanahan has a plan, I just hope it's better than, "sign some guys, get lucky".

Hicks has spent his whole career playing for Reid/Childress, and their zone blocking schemes more closely resemble Zorn's than Shanahan's. Not that it's a huge difference.[/quote]
I guess nothing's saying that we have to keep these guys, who knows.

Could you point to a link sharing the diff zone blocking schemes such as the reid style and shanny's? Or a brief synopsis?

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[quote=Lotus;670553]
Justin Fargas is now a FA. He has low mileage and can catch out of the backfield.[/quote]

Wonder if that's who the rumors Smoot mentioned were about

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[quote=tryfuhl;670574]Is this your first offseason? No team is finished or even close a couple of days in. Cuts aren't done with, trades aren't done with, hell offseason activities haven't even started yet, nor have we had the draft. There is a lot of time left, there will be cuts similar to the ones that we've seen already.[/quote]

Lol it's certainly not my first offseason. My point was everyone's talking about how satisfied they are and how great it is to see us not throwing away money. Now sure that's true in a sense, but with a team that needs depth at every position we need to be going after some of the 2nd tier guys such as (Ryan Clark, Porter, Fujita, etc). Now I'm not saying sign them all but atleast show some interest and so far other than Foote, we haven't.

You're right though, more people will most likely get released, but we need to assume the worst and start with what's available. There's no denying the fact that as these next days come, more and more guys of interest to us will be unavailable.

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[quote=IrMitchell;670581]Lol it's certainly not my first offseason. My point was everyone's talking about how satisfied they are and how great it is to see us not throwing away money. Now sure that's true in a sense, but with a team that needs depth at every position we need to be going after some of the 2nd tier guys such as (Ryan Clark, Porter, Fujita, etc). Now I'm not saying sign them all but atleast show some interest and so far other than Foote, we haven't.

You're right though, more people will most likely get released, but we need to assume the worst and start with what's available. There's no denying the fact that as these next days come, more and more guys of interest to us will be unavailable.[/quote]

We're talking to some of these guys already. They're the ones that take longer to sign as nobody's saying "hey kid we'll pay you what you want" to them. They'll be fielding offers from quite a few teams.

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hence the whole second tier guys thing. They want to get as much money as possible, and the best way to do that is visit everyone that's interested.

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[quote=tryfuhl;670583]We're talking to some of these guys already. They're the ones that take longer to sign as nobody's saying "hey kid we'll pay you what you want" to them. They'll be fielding offers from quite a few teams.[/quote]

A lot depends on what some of these players are looking for in a deal. We're going to be in the markat for depth and role players, some of these guys are looking for starting positions which are not going to be avaliable. Can't blame guys for trying to find the right fit for their situation.

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At this point I just want Foote, Clark and any of these weak guards and tackles.
I also heard Atogwe from the rams might be available? That would be absolutely amazing if we could get our hands on him.

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[quote=Longtimefan;670588]A lot depends on what some of these players are looking for in a deal. We're going to be in the markat for depth and role players, some of these guys are looking for starting positions which are not going to be avaliable. Can't blame guys for trying to find the right fit for their situation.[/quote]

Right, the one thing Shanny and Allen keep saying is they want to bring in guys for "competition at every position"...not only does it challenge and improve guys but builds depth...even with all the old vets they keep trying to bring in on the Oline, look how the Oline depth has been lately...undrafted free agents or practice squad fodder that never presented a challenge to the guy ahead of them.

Another thing about posters claiming the Skins are doing enough trying to sign guys...look at the free agent situation across the league by no CBA, there isnt a whole lotta guys to chose from. Teams were preparing for this and got their value guys in extentions or placed a tender to protect them. There isnt a ton of guys to pick from and in our situation, no thanks to Vinny, we had an opportunity to cut guys with some bloated salaries and age...we were the oldest team in the league...patience please we are not a playoff team next year

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[quote=Longtimefan;670588]A lot depends on what some of these players are looking for in a deal. We're going to be in the markat for depth and role players, some of these guys are looking for starting positions which are not going to be avaliable. Can't blame guys for trying to find the right fit for their situation.[/quote]

Yep, definitely a lot of things to consider, role being a big part, nice mention.

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[quote=tryfuhl;670578]I guess nothing's saying that we have to keep these guys, who knows.

Could you point to a link sharing the diff zone blocking schemes such as the reid style and shanny's? Or a brief synopsis?[/quote]I think Smart Football ran a feature on the different kinds of ZBS schemes a year or two years ago. I'll see if can dig it up.

The biggest difference is the reliance on the cut blocking in the Shanahan scheme to create huge cutback lanes. You don't really see the long cutbacks in other variations of the zone blocking scheme. It's still zone blocking, you're still blocking an area instead of a man, but every play in Shanahan scheme (and Kubiak as well), the backside end is under immense pressure to play the cutback.

Doesn't seem like it would be a major difference for a guard as opposed to the tackle, but I've heard otherwise.

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[quote=GTripp0012;670602]I think Smart Football ran a feature on the different kinds of ZBS schemes a year or two years ago. I'll see if can dig it up.

The biggest difference is the reliance on the cut blocking in the Shanahan scheme to create huge cutback lanes. You don't really see the long cutbacks in other variations of the zone blocking scheme. It's still zone blocking, you're still blocking an area instead of a man, but every play in Shanahan scheme (and Kubiak as well), the backside end is under immense pressure to play the cutback.

Doesn't seem like it would be a major difference for a guard as opposed to the tackle, but I've heard otherwise.[/quote]

Sounds good, I'll look for it, your description seems to be good enough though.

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I'm kind of surprised RB Mike Bell hasn't been mentioned at all.

Wasn't he a Shanahan pick? And he ran kind of well for the Saints this season... I think I'd rather him over a 30-yr old back like Tomilinson, Parker, etc. ... he'd be rather cheap and already know the system.

But again... Shanny must not have been to impressed with him Denver... haven't heard of any interest from the Skins.

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Ironically enough, Al Saunders' rushing attack never blocked the backside end either. But that was a different scheme. We weren't looking for the cutback as much as we were just trying to beat the backside end to the point of attack.

And it never worked. But damned if we weren't going to keep trying.

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Foote is definitely a guy that I'd like us make an effort to keep him from visiting elsewhere, especially if the FO is thinking that Fletcher won't be around much longer. He definitely has some years left in him, barring injury.